Hoop 'N Hollerin' - A Recap of Bonnaroo News

A podcast for Bonnaroovians by Bonnaroovians. I'm Brad, that's Barry, it's Lord Taco.

It's a very, very exciting day, a big day.

I am so thrilled to announce the big news of the week.

Our long national nightmare is over.

We can finally breathe again because Supermarket Sweep is coming back to television.

Now, I know there are so many things that we need to get to when it comes to Supermarket Sweep coming back to television.

But Barry, when you hear the beep, it's time for Supermarket Sweep.

Amazing, amazing. This is what we've been missing. I can exhale.

You can. You can finally come out of the shadows, my friend, because it's time to put some meat in a cart and drag a giant parrot around the supermarket.

I am thrilled. Supermarket Sweep is back on television.

It's going to be so gross to see what people think is important as we come out of this.

This is what's important. This is what I've been looking forward to for God knows how long.

That's really the big news I have. You have anything to attend?

Not a paycheck. That's not no paycheck. Not interested.

Being able to pay rent. None of that.

Who needs a paycheck when I get two-for-one diapers?

Fun stuff.

That's all I got for this episode. What about you guys?

Oh, no, I'm done. That's good.

Okay, go ahead.

All right, Russ, you got anything?

Let's see, did something happen? No, I don't think so. I think I'm good.

All right, good seeing you guys.

Yeah, lovely.

Just wanted to check in.

Good. I don't know about you, Barry. You look the same, but Russ, you look like you are thinner.

I think you.

Has Russ lost weight?

I wasn't going to say it.

Russ, have you lost weight? Have you been working out? Have you been doing a yoga routine?

I've done a cleanse.

A cleanse? What did you do? What does that mean?

PBR cleanse.

What? A what cleanse? What are we talking about?

If I was going to do a cleanse, that would be the cleanse.

Well, you'd have to do a PBR cleanse. He doesn't drink anything else. What else are you going to cleanse?

Does that mean you did nothing but or no PBR?

That's what I was cleansing with was PBR.

Sure.

You bathed in it, you drank it, you shampooed it.

Maybe that's why his skin looks so fresh and young.

Who can argue? Look at him.

I feel great.

Thank you. You're turning into one big blue ribbon.

That's funny. I saw him last night, Brad. We actually went out and met Daniel from the Roo Bus.

We had some beers downtown in Chattanooga. He came up and hiked.

I wish you could have seen Russ's face when the waiter said, no, we have PBR.

It's really become troublesome for Taco because he's just so worried.

Every time he goes somewhere, they're not going to have it.

It's a big concern, but I thought I was going to have to drink a High Life.

Seriously, what were your decisions? It was either water or a cider,

which I don't understand at all.

He'll do a cider if he's had your hair.

Sometimes.

Yeah, or nothing, or you were going to go without.

Then he said, no, we have PBR.

Because of course he had his mask.

My mask had the PBR logo on it.

Of course it does.

Your mouth should have a PBR logo on it.

Which is how the waiter knew, I think.

I think that was his clue.

But it changed the whole mood of the evening.

Where did you kids go?

We went to Proof. It's kind of new.

Yes, it is. It's got a very nice little patio, right?

That's right. It has a nice patio.

But when you guys showed up, Barry, how did you possibly know how to function since it was sort of dark out?

It wasn't dark. It was still gorgeous. It was still early.

It was only five.

Oh, okay, perfect.

So I took a nap.

Actually, two naps.

Now, I took a nap.

Let me just say, and Russ can verify, those guys aren't playing.

The door was locked. You had to knock to get in.

Once you got in, they took your temperature.

They wrote your temperature down and a phone number.

Oh, yeah.

Walked you to a table.

It was pretty serious stuff, right?

They're very strict. It's probably the best place I've been as far as responsibility with doing all this stuff, temperature checks, masks.

I mean, look, I just watched this from afar, and there are just certain pockets of the country that just don't feel like they're taking this still seriously.

And Tennessee is top of my list.

So much so that the White House has reached out and said, y'all probably need to start wearing masks.

That's how bad we are.

It's remarkable.

We have a friend who I won't name his name.

It rhymes with Bryan Stone.

And he says he's the biggest anti-Trump liberal on the planet, but yet this man cannot stop finding himself at fried chicken restaurants every weekend and then to a VOLS game.

You know, 25,000 people.

Now, he's a Braves.

He went to the VOLS game yesterday, too.

Did he, too?

Yeah, he's gone to a Braves game, a VOLS game.

Why not both?

Yeah, at this point, Brian, you are a walking super spreader.

The state of Tennessee is just not with it.

Now, with that being said, I will say, and I've said this to Taco and to Barry and anybody that will listen, if you're going to do something, it feels like you better do it now.

Because, you know, that next wave is probably going to hit us sometime in the winter.

And, you know, I tell the friends, like, if you're coming down, you better do it now, because if you wait till November, December, we're going to be right back into this.

Well, I mean, here was the thing.

And again, Russ can verify with me.

Yesterday was gorgeous.

Daniel came up to hike.

I mean, if you were going to define a beautiful day, it was yesterday.

And we went to the right place.

Taco picked it.

Great pick.

And then the street, you know, and Brad, you know, it's M.L. King, as Chris Rock says, why is 9th Street renamed M.L. King?

It's always the worst street in every city that they do.

But now we've got several bars up and down that street, a couple breweries, and it was packed.

It wasn't when we first got there, but it was packed because it was so pretty out.

Yeah, I mean, it's over in Louisiana.

I mean, at this point, it's completely over.

We were walking around the neighborhood and this has happened last couple of weekends.

But in our neighborhood, we're five blocks from the Bayou and the Bayou every Friday night is a 10 piece brass band that's playing right on the water.

And there might be 200 people out.

You know, it's it's it's over for a lot of people.

They've said, screw it.

I'm not I'm not playing this game anymore.

I've got to enjoy this while I got it.

And yeah, I mean, this this weather is either going to make us all feel normal for a little while or it's going to cause a big a big mess.

I don't I don't really know.

But, you know, for right now, I'm enjoying the hell out of it before before all hell breaks.

So Orleans Parish, we only had 35 cases three days ago.

You guys, on the other hand, are exploding in especially in your county.

It's I mean, you guys are lapping us by five, six times.

And, you know, we should be the epicenter of it.

But no, it turns out it's Hamilton County, Tennessee.

It's hit the rural counties. It's hit the state.

I mean, the state we've what, second highest numbers of the of the whole event.

I think so. Yeah.

Because of the and with all that being said, you know, to tie it back to Banu for a second, you know, I read on on some of the social media is that, you know,

some of the furloughed guys at AC Entertainment are officially cut.

There's absolutely and if you haven't figured this out by now, everything's shut down until summer.

I thought the biggest piece of news happened since the last time we were doing a show was that Banu went ahead and changed the dates as if we predicted it with Jeff Quay are at our last episode.

When I asked him, you guys thinking about making this, you know, for real thing in the future, moving it to September.

Then he was very coy and we should have seen right through that answer. And then literally two days later, they announced the date change.

Yeah, I love I love watching him react to some of your questions and our questions.

And yeah, that was that was a professional non-answer answer.

No kidding. No kidding. And we really should have seen right through it.

If we didn't like him so much, we would have probably pressed a little bit harder.

You know, he's got his job to do and I don't blame him. And I don't know.

I mean, you know, we should probably we should probably like claim to the fact that they announced it two days after you ask.

You know, maybe we forced their hand because I highly, I highly doubt it.

But I mean, you can't prove it's not true. You're right. You're right, Don.

You're right. But it's it's just a great point because it tell if you if you can't tell from them moving the date to September

how this is all going to go for the next eight months, I don't know if you're really paying much attention because you look, we said it six months ago.

The whole first quarter of the year, twenty twenty one is done.

Second quarter, you might as well, you know, knock that out, too.

Third quarter is when it seems like something might start to happen.

So a year from now, we're going to finally be back into it.

That is what they're hoping. And, you know, you hope. Yeah.

You've got Coachella move, move their dates. Bonnarooo's already moved their dates.

So, you know, maybe September, the vaccine comes and somebody feels confident enough in it.

And, you know, we're back into this time next year when it's pretty again.

But by the way, next September going to be 200 degrees.

You know, it's going to be as hot as it's ever been. So good luck, pal.

So two or three pieces of news that I wanted to get to.

That's one. And I'm just sort of laying out. We'll come back to it.

But Manchester Mayor Lonnie Norman died. We want to mention that.

That's happened since we've we've been on the air.

We'll stop you. I'll separate there in all of the time.

Have you ever interviewed him? Have you ever talked to him?

Yeah. And you you asked me that before. And I'm I'm I don't know that you met him,

but he was definitely at the walkthrough.

Probably all of them that we've done. Huh? I guess I don't I don't remember.

I have no memory. He's the guy that read the gave the key to the city to Brandi Carlisle.

Yeah, I do remember that. I just don't remember that being him. But that was him.

So, I mean, it's significant to us because of the relationship between the festival.

But back to them moving to September.

Well, I want to stay with you for a second. When but who takes over, I guess the lieutenant mayor

who takes over in a situation like that?

They have a vice mayor who is, I think, in charge now.

And that's all I know. I don't know if they're going to hold another election or I don't know.

I don't know. Do we know anything about this vice mayor?

Is she or he, you know, a Bonnarooo fan?

Do they are they a friend of the festival or not?

I mean, let's be honest. You're an idiot if you're not.

I mean, Manchester is a bump.

The amount of money that that festival pours in and the relationship that they had.

And and obviously, I say that cynically, but it's been a good relationship.

It's been both ways. There's there are some people and I've run into several over the years who was at a party.

I guess I had a Bonnarooo t-shirt on and a guy came up, started talking because his family owns the property

right there at the entrance, not the one we use, but the main entrance.

And his grandfather hates it, but his dad loves it.

They've made a lot of money on it. So doing what?

Everything from parking to just selling water, selling water.

Yeah, all kinds of things, the property value just, you know, so does it shock you at all that grandpa hates it?

No. Yeah, me neither.

No, it's probably why he moved there. He moved out there for the quiet.

Get away from these kids. Yeah.

And then once a year it becomes, you know, Woodstock or whatever.

I would, I'll be honest with you, I would love to talk to grandpa if we could find grandpa, because, you know,

we don't talk to many haters about this.

I'd love to know, like, how the local community feels about some of these some of these things and some of these people.

And, you know, there's there's got to be a push and pull love hate relationship,

but it's almost like having an Airbnb next door to you.

You know, I really like that they're there, but boy, it's really a pain in the ass that they keep coming and going and coming and going.

One of my favorite quotes from doing this for so many years, Steve Graves was the sheriff for many years.

He lost the election probably three years ago, but he was great.

He answered the phone every time I called, you know, gave me what I wanted.

He was he was really good to work with.

And but I asked him one day, I said, by the way, this festival brings a lot of money to your city and your county.

What do you think of it? And he said, well, it's against every single thing we train for.

But, you know, I have to do my job.

Money talks, man. Money talks.

You know, he wasn't saying we're looking the other way.

I don't think they look the other way. It's just it's funny.

They don't they don't interject. They don't interject until they have to.

I mean, we were talking last night with around the table.

It's just the rule is don't be an asshole.

Yeah, that's the Bonnarooo rule, right? Man.

Wait a second. Let me write that down because I I don't know if I've adhered to that.

I was shocked. I was shocked to hear that rule.

Don't be a dumbass. Don't make them deal with you.

That's the basic rule. Yeah.

So anyway, and I think. Hi, Hillary.

Oh, hey, walk right through the show. OK.

I mean, hello. What do you think we're doing here?

I think she's over it. Yeah.

No shit. I think she's over it.

She's got the got the covid attitude. I'm over it.

I guess. I guess. But anyway, Lonnie was terrific and a lot of a lot of people involved knew him and appreciated what he did.

And obviously, Manchester has benefited. He was a third term.

I didn't realize that. Interesting.

I remember meeting. I did meet the previous man whose name I don't know.

But but anyway, Lonnie died from covid-19.

Yeah, that's it. It's really sad.

Do we have any information about him or or, you know, his family or services, et cetera?

No, I mean, we can look it up.

It was I was glad to see I think is the right word.

Those surprised is probably a better word at the amount of tributes.

That poured in from all over the country.

I mean, we've we've made light of it, but it's a very, very sad situation.

And, you know, the the Cuban toll is is not too far when you want to reach.

You can find somebody pretty close to you that that is either had it or has died because of it.

It's really, really sad because, you know, it does it does feel like for all intents purposes, you know,

Manchester may be a blip or a bump in the radar of towns in Tennessee.

But, you know, to be to be a mayor of a town like that for three terms, you know, he's got to he's got to have

he's got to have something that people really like about him.

And he was the first African-American mayor.

Oh, really? Manchester. I mean, if people don't understand, Manchester is in middle.

I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of an center.

I'm trying to think of another African-American mayor in Tennessee ever.

Curiously, nearby Winchester. Really? Actually, yeah.

But it's the first time it's like Barry's done an article about this already.

I might have studied on this. Yeah, I was pulling this out of Google here.

By the way, there was a statement released and I'll put it up on the screen.

If you're watching on YouTube, the service is today.

So they're asking that in lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the St. Jude's Children's Hospital and the Bonnarooo Works Fund.

That's very nice. That's very, very kind.

What was the other piece of news that B.C. wanted to get through today?

I just want to go back to the September thing.

So I've had several occasions to do interviews with people running events, big and small, from the Signal,

which is owned by Marathon out of Nashville. They own Marathon and...

Exit In? No, that was Chris. He used to own it and he sold it.

But there's one in St. Louis.

But anyway, one of my questions, and it was just a random question,

was does this fact that Bonnarooo has moved to September impact you at all?

Did that come up in your board meetings, whatever?

Who are you asking this of? The Signal, the Tivoli, Marathon?

These are local venues in and around the city.

Regional? Yeah.

And the answer was sort of yes and no.

Why? Do you think that they're laying groundwork and people are going to follow them or is Bonnarooo following local venues?

That's what I wanted to know. That's what I wanted to know.

And it's an unfair question because I was asking them to sort of put themselves in somebody else's place.

And that's the way they reacted. And I want to make sure that's clear.

So, I mean, their answers are not meant to be definitive. I was just asking because I find it curious.

You know what I mean? Does that announcement rock your world, basically, is what I was asking.

And they were like, no, because they're a huge event.

And I think this was the third point I wanted to make because Daniel sort of made it last night, Russ, if you remember.

And you and I have talked about it, Brad, but not to this final point is the overseas acts.

You know, Bonnarooo books a lot of international acts.

And so while we have focused on the regional and national and when will they start coming across country,

I haven't really honestly thought about, you know, coming overseas.

They don't want to. They don't want to. They're not. No, no, no. They do not want to come here.

That's the point. Would you? It pushes everything. Yeah, that's the point. It pushes everything.

I'll be honest with you. It depends on what happens on November 3rd.

Yeah, that's going to be a lot. You know, supposedly everything is fixed on November 4th.

That's what I got. Fingers crossed.

But OK, so so I understand the angle that you're making.

But unfortunately, you're in a city and some cities are like this, too, where, you know, like we said before,

they're acting like this doesn't exist anymore. So you've got venues in your city, Barry, booking shows.

Yeah, I know. I know. Trust me. Trust me.

I have I have this conversation all the time and I have to be honest with you as a reporter.

I'm not sure where to fall on this. Right.

Man, that's such a great point, Barry, because you have you have two masters to serve here.

Exactly. You've got there's there's an information part here that you you feel like you need to get out.

But there's also a public health part of this that you've got to, you know, maintain some some some wherewithal.

If you're pushing people to go do a public into a public space and go to a show, are you being irresponsible?

That's exactly the the the question.

It's not my job to tell you what to do or not. What do your bosses say?

Do your job, which is provide information, which is what I've done now with all of the stories that I try to write.

And those stories include, you know, Tennessee pledge guidelines, mass, all that will be will be are mandated because they are.

The county has mandated them. But it's it, you know, it and I've gotten a few people who've made comments.

Why are you basically pimping these events to get people out?

That's my job. My job is to tell you what's happening. You decide whether you're going or not.

I mean, you're not really in a place where you could editorialize somebody else's event.

No, unless it's afterwards. Now, have you gone to any of these shows and then written about them afterwards?

As you know, no, but I've reached out to people who have and I've tried to include that in.

Do you feel safe and those sorts of things now?

These events also happen after five o'clock, so it's very difficult for Barry to get to.

Yeah, I'm not going. I got to get out of bed to go.

I'm not going. I got to get off the couch.

I have to take two naps to get to somewhere at five.

So making fun of him all weekend. Next, he's going to be doing pothole jokes and airline food jokes.

Make fun of the old guy jokes.

But I do think that it would probably not to give you any sort of advice,

but I do think it would probably be very beneficial to go to some of these events and then come back

and editorialize a bit and see what you've seen and say what you think could be done better.

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

But it's an interesting thing because when I use the words safe or just whatever,

those are editorial words. The event is doing it safely. Social distancing.

Well, what does safe mean? Does it mean it felt safe or does it mean nobody that we know of

or great numbers showed up at the hospital a week later? You know what I mean?

There's a huge difference.

Last night felt safe because of the measures they were taking.

And you were outside probably? Were you guys outside?

Yeah, we were outside. They took our phone number in case they do have a case.

They took your temperature and your phone number so they can contact you later on to do contact tracing.

And they do. They've been taking this very seriously from the start.

So that's the question. I mean, I'll just be honest with you.

So all I can do is contact the people in charge and quote them saying we're doing this safely.

It's still not for me to show up and say, yeah, I think you're not.

I understand. I understand.

Now, when you actually see these shows happening, what are usually the caps on them?

What's the size of the event?

The largest was probably last night, I guess.

We had Here Come the Mummies at AT&T Field, which is our minor league baseball field.

They were going to limit it to fifteen hundred.

The Tivoli is open. Started showing movies.

Two hundred, which is twelve percent, which is a random number.

But I can explain why if you really care. I don't. Yeah, I didn't think you did.

And then the signal, which typically holds thirteen hundred, was limited to about two fifty.

So fifteen hundred was the was the OK.

So first and foremost, fifteen hundred is a lot of people in that ballpark, even though it's outside.

Were they in the infield or were they all just in the in the all over?

They had some seating on the infield, some in the grandstands and some up in the suites.

If you bought the sweet, did they sell out? No.

Oh, yeah. Let's hear. How good.

Well, and you had Georgia, Alabama. All right.

So and then so the two. OK, have you talked to the people at the venue who have sold two hundred and fifty tickets to a twelve hundred seat space person space?

And do they make any money whatsoever or do they just break even?

They make enough money so that the band makes some money.

The people waiting, the wait staff makes some money.

The venue hopes to break even.

Oof. Nobody's making any money.

Yeah. So he's making any money.

So look, we're a live music town in New Orleans and we live and breathe it.

And, you know, we're in phase three, but there's three phases of phase three.

We're in phase two of phase three.

And indoor music just now started, but they have specifically said no horns.

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't know how in New Orleans you can survive live music with no horns.

And they also said something to no singing.

So basically, they just want interpretive guitar.

Yeah, you know, our county school system went to no, no more choir, no more vocal groups.

They saw guitar and it's mostly virtual because songbirds, which we've talked about many, many times, a former guitar museum, the Songbirds Foundation had already figured out a way to teach guitar online.

They've been doing videos. So but your, your point is singing.

Yeah. And that was the other thing we talked about last night at our gathering was a lot of bands don't want to go on the road because the singer who only that's his only gift in life.

Doesn't want to get sick.

Well, he probably also has good hair and well, it's worked out a little while.

And that was part of the joke was, you know, that but that is his talent is singing and for him to get sick. And now there's reports of whether it gets into your lungs or.

Well, yeah, this is a respiratory disease. Yeah, there's this really great story that happened over this weekend or over this week.

I don't know if you saw it, but Switzerland, the is is there.

They're really upset right now because they've shut down across the country. They've shut down yodeling because there is a yodeling festival in which like 900 people got infected.

Actually, the number might be 95. I just remember there's a nine and it was a lot. So they shut down yodeling in the entire country of Switzerland.

So, you know, if they can shut down, you know, singing in horns in the like what what is the point? I don't have a harpsichord.

I can just like roll out into the thing. I can't do that. So funny. You and I, Brad, we've always you and I've talked about, you know, somebody had to make that.

We're fascinated by this idea that something somebody had to make that. So in our country, it's all these high school kids who, you know, maybe aren't going to get their college scholarship.

Somebody in Switzerland has led their whole life. Yeah. Looking forward to this 2020 yodeling champion. Yeah.

And it just got yanked from a girl. Hey, don't you judge me for my extracurricular activities. I'm not discounting it. I mean, I'm making light, but I'm not. It's important to them.

Well, so we're looking into phase three, three, three point three. And I think that's when we get indoor music. But again, it's not like we have so we have big venues here. But, you know, what's going to happen is going to be the tip of Tina's of the city and the Maple Leaf bars of the city that, you know, have already a cap of two hundred and fifty.

You know, I think that, you know, what tip of Tina's did a opened they did this. They opened the doors and they played it had a DJ play outside the door for like the street.

And if you don't think that we all just like hung out in the street and like interrupted traffic, you're damn we did, you know, at this point, you know, survival is going to be on Venmo for a lot of the artists around here.

But you guys don't necessarily in a lot of places in the country don't necessarily have that that infrastructure that just supports live music and is willing to go on a street corner and spend twenty dollars on a Venmo.

Yeah, let me I understand what you're saying. And let me clarify. We are having Tennessee Chattanooga. We are probably having more and more events than some.

It certainly appears. Let me make sure to explain. Just like I said, the Tivoli is having movies with 200 people.

It's a seventeen hundred seat facility. The signal is having two hundred and fifty people. It's a thirteen hundred wide open room.

The mummy's thing last night was outdoors at a baseball facility. The concerts that they have were outdoors.

So I understand where you're going. It's responsible. It's it's trying to be responsible. We have gorgeous weather.

We have a lot of outdoor. The things we did last night were outdoors.

It's not as reckless. I mean, I get that. But what we said earlier about the the rural, the numbers going up, that's the sort of irresponsible stuff.

That I'm talking about. We can argue it, but there are a lot more safety measures than one might think.

Sure. And it's not it's not the the responsibility aspect to me.

It's where it's all going and if it actually is going to mean anything when we actually get there.

So if we if we spend the next few weeks with these sort of half measured things and then we all have to quarantine again.

No, I get I. So when this first happened, I was confused.

And then for a couple of months, I thought I this all we all just need to shut down.

Why is not why don't people understand that? And I was sort of a proponent of that.

And then I was talking to a lot of people who said we've got to do something. We have to do something.

I just can't watch my business die.

So this includes people at Songbirds and some other people, bars, restaurants.

So I sort of swayed back their way. Now, I mean, I have to be honest with you.

I'm totally confused. I I wake up, I totally feel you, man.

And I see the numbers, I see the reports, and then I get these phone calls from people saying, hey, we're having an event.

Look, man, you see in the same thing I'm seeing, what am I missing?

Look, there's there's just there's just a last night we went to a new friend's house.

They were having an outdoor party at their house across town.

And there are probably 35 people at the house.

But it was a it was a house party that was, you know, had five hundred shucked oysters, a shrimp boil.

And, you know, at the same time, somebody could look and say, this is not very responsible.

But at the other time, like, but I really want to go over that house and eat some oysters.

That's what I that's that's where I am now.

To me, it's like a you're going to laugh because you love these analogies.

But it's like a diet. It's like I've been really good for five days.

Yeah, I know. I deserve a piece of cheesecake.

I know that cheesecake might kill you, but that cheesecake is going to kill you.

Yeah, no, that's what it seems like.

You know, this way, if there's a possibility, if there was a one in one thousand chance of that cheesecake killing you, would you still eat it?

That and that's the thing that going back to Lonnie Norman, the mayor, you know, he was seventy nine. There are some people who will say he was seventy nine and African-American.

COVID didn't kill him, you know, like whatever.

No, the COVID made it brought it along quicker.

And that's the part people don't want to they don't want to hear.

And and I don't think and this is the good news, maybe if it's the right word.

We're starting to actually now hear from people who have had it, who are saying you don't want this thing.

You know, I don't know, man. I heard people.

The flu. I don't know. I heard one person in particular say it actually made them feel better.

Yeah, and I was twenty years younger and like they were Superman and wanted to rip their shirt off.

But the Superman logo on me.

Yeah. Ask anybody who's actually had it and and and the whole, you know, the long term with the lung and the heart that that, you know, if you're 18, 19, 20, you're invincible.

You're not thinking about what that's going to do to you in 20 years.

Well, how about this? If if not for OK, if it's not going to be a live show, then it's going to be a virtual show.

So you know, spending the weekend with the Bonnarooo virtual show that you did, Barry, what do you think?

I actually enjoyed it. I enjoyed what I watched.

I loved, loved, loved seeing the Beastie Boys.

Yeah, the goose.

We're we're hoping to have them on here pretty soon.

The what? Goose. Oh, the band.

Those guys we also.

So, you know, I watched that and I had no idea who they were and they were not on the Bonnarooo lineup and I didn't know they were actually booking people on this virtual fest that weren't on the Bonnarooo lineup.

I turned it on and I had to go through the lineup trying to figure out who in the hell this was.

I had no idea who Goose was. But my God, there were some really good shows in there that you liked a lot.

That was great. And the James Brown thing, I think I reached out to both of you and both and said, my God, turn this thing on that 2003 right second year that show.

Man, that's that was watching a professional. It was a lot like the McCartney show. Yeah, where you could just tell I'm going to show you guys how this is supposed to be done because it was tight from beginning to end.

It was amazing. Yeah, my wife actually.

I don't think it started till nine. She had gone to bed and I was hooping and hollering and she got up and said, what are you what's what are you doing?

By the way, can we stop for a second? Can I see? Can I see what it looks like? It sounds like if Barry's hooping and hollering.

Can we get a hoop? I think that describes it perfectly.

What about a holler? I want a holler. Taco wants a hoop.

But you know those you know those moments where you sort of come in and like I envision taco. I envision Barry looking like Arsenio Hall.

Fist pumps. Yeah, with the giant finger.

Let me ask, too. Were you were you rebel rousin as well?

Rabble is it rabble? It's rabble. It's rabble rousin. You would know. Yeah, rabble rousin.

That's actually my one of my online names.

I mean, I just don't I really just don't see you in the middle of the living room slam dancing to James Brown.

We didn't get to there. We didn't get to there. We were hooping and hollering.

There's a difference between hooping and hollering and slam dancing, Brad. Come on. Do I have to explain that?

Yes, you do. Yes, that's what I'm asking you to do. I need you to show me a little bit of a hoop and a tiny bit of a holler.

It's a scale. It's like the it's like the threat level.

Yeah, you can hoop and holler from the couch. Slam dancing. You got to be standing.

You got to pogo. So let me let me get this straight.

This this arm motion and then the big waving finger, the big Bernie Sanders finger, that woke your wife up?

Yes. Wow. You've got a very powerful fist, if that's the case.

You know that moment where you come in and you sort of look and then you look and then you kind of half sit on the couch like you're going to get it back up, but you never leave.

That's what she did. She ended up watching the whole show. It was terrific.

So, oh, man, I'm now dying for a hoop and holler moment. I mean, I've been to boundary with you for what, a decade and a half.

I've never seen you hoop nor holler. I'm trying to think. You probably haven't.

You probably have it. You're willing to hoop and holler at the house, but not in public.

OK, that's a good question. Does one ever hoop but not holler?

You just do the hollering. I think so. Yeah, I do that on a regular basis. I do a lot of hollering.

That's that's like a really disappointing. You almost got there, but you weren't quite committed.

Yeah, yeah. Being sort of pregnant. I couldn't quite. I couldn't get to the holler.

I guess that's how I define my sex life. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Couldn't get the holler. How was it? Well, a little bit of hoop, not much holler. Never got to holler.

Man, the dancing. You dancing, you hooping and hollering, I'm going to bet looks a lot like robot Trump dancing.

Have you seen the Trump dance that he did last night? It was just a lot like Elaine Bennis, like a broken robot.

I'm more into doing the Bernie thing. Which is what? Have you seen the doing the Bernie?

Let me see it. I'm ready to see it. Let's show it off, Barry.

What's the weekend at Bernie's? Have you not seen that? Oh, that Bernie Sanders. Yeah.

You've seen the Bernie Sanders dance. You've got to put the sunglasses on.

Throw your head back. Yeah. OK. I got you. Kind of like a Ray Charles.

But it's the Bernie doing the Bernie. OK. That's me. It works. It works anywhere.

Yeah, I. The only the biggest dance move I've ever seen Barry do was it's a little bit of this.

And I'll do it for the people watching at home. It's it's the head bob, right? Yep.

Right. It's the head bob. And then he'll do a face squint added to the head bob.

You know, something that's really good. Yeah.

And then and then he'll start sliding with the head bob and the face squinch.

And then I know you'll hear. Oh, shit. That's my jam.

That's the dance move that I've seen before. That's the Barry.

Like in side to side. Sure. Little Stevie Wonder. Oh, man.

That's it. Oh, man. So you like you like the goose.

You like the Beastie Boys. You like the the James Brown.

Anything else of note? Briston. How about this before you?

Oh, yeah. Briston Moroney, our kid, the guy that we're trying to get on the show,

which we're going to have him on here soon just to talk about how that all came about.

But how about the production levels getting in and out of shows?

Was it was it what were they doing in between the sets?

I'll be honest, it was OK. It was OK.

I wasn't enamored. And we coincidentally, we at the paper did our own sort of kind of production that same night.

And I got to be honest, I was proud of what we did.

We did a virtual just like they did a lot of pre-recorded stuff.

Any hooping and hollering? We never. Yeah, we did, actually, because we had Roger Allen Wade.

Wow. OK, good. Very nice. Listeners out there will know Roger.

He's he's local, but he's Johnny Knoxville's cousin.

So if you've ever heard, loving you is like frying bacon naked.

And if you're going to be dumb, you better be tough. And Roger's awesome.

So there was some hooping and hollering with Roger.

But to your question, it was good. It was OK.

Some of the some of the bits that they did were a little long.

Some of them seemed out of place. That sort of killed the moment.

I got a shout out during one of the bits. Yeah.

Did either of you get a shout out? Only is the what podcast?

You know, I had I had no idea.

I just assumed that they talked about us a lot.

And I'm going to go with that because I know it was it was it was it was it was Lindsay from Roof Fitness

that hosted the the first Bonnarooo Speakeasy back in June.

You know, because they asked Bonnarooo asked people to submit a video of, you know,

give us your Bonnarooo experience stories. And he talked about how he threw on the Speakeasy Roo.

And he was like, and I invited guests, you know, like Lord Taco from the what podcast.

He made it sound like I was the the headline. Yes.

You probably were.

Big type, big type comes along with Lord Tacos name.

Who would have thought who's down at the bottom of the poster for the Speakeasy?

If you were the top type, I was at the top. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it's in the crickets in the river down at the bottom.

It was good. I have to I have to admit, I was surprised how much time I spent watching it.

It wasn't a lot, you know, because of it was but over three days and

they didn't start till four thirty in the afternoon central time.

So five thirty. So but but are you now that you've seen it, are you a fan of the virtual shows?

Yeah. OK. No, it doesn't really replace anything.

No, I had specific reasons for watching the shows that I watched the Beasties.

I was there and I've said many times he did it.

He just did it. I knew it was going to come at some point. You just did it, Barry.

My favorite Barry is on this show is whenever he's talking about Bonnarooo

and he's talking about going all in on Bonnarooo.

His first line is always you're there. I have to camp.

It's all there. And you just started the live stream while I was watching the live stream.

I I was there. I every time. OK.

Every time it's my favorite things, I think.

No, I don't know. My point is I watched that one, but I wasn't into it

because I wasn't that big a fan.

It was later that I realized I missed a heck of a show because I wasn't paying full attention.

So to be able to see it again was great.

And the James Brown one, you know, that was before social media.

So that one really hasn't been seen. But would you pay for it?

No, no, no, no. And I get the point of your question. No, no.

You wouldn't. So even if it was a show that you wanted to see with an artist

that you want to see, you wouldn't pay 10 bucks.

Probably not. Wow. OK.

Probably not. Well, I say it because Glass Animals just did a live stream.

You know, and look, a lot of them are doing live streams.

Billie Eilish is about to do one. You know, Machine Gun Kelly has done one.

And, you know, they're all charging about 10 bucks.

And some are I mean, I don't know what the level of success is here.

I really don't. But I'd love to know how much money it costs them to put this whole thing on.

Let me re-state. Versus what they got back for it.

As a fan, I would not. But given the situation that we're in

and understanding that these guys need to make money, I might actually for that reason.

Not because I want to see it as a fan. Does that make sense?

I would do it out of some sense of obligation because they're trying to make a living.

So I had a very weird chat with Machine Gun Kelly the other day.

And Machine Gun Kelly, if you don't know him, I mean, he's not a Bonnaroo artist.

And I highly doubt he'd ever be on the farm. But he's got the number one album in the country.

He's got the number one single in the country. And he, you know, he's gone to war with Eminem.

Eminem called him out on an album and sort of his claim to fame is he's dating like Megan Fox right now.

But he's a really troubled dude. And he has got a lot of depression.

And, you know, he's gone from rapper now to like pop rocker.

And so he's got this album out and we're talking and I know he's got a lot of depression.

I know he's got a lot of like, you know, mental issues and then compounded all with, you know, his dad died a couple of months ago during COVID.

And now he's got an album release. And I said, you know, I know you probably got to be on top of the world.

And he, of course, brushed that off. He's not on top of the world.

And then I said, well, OK, maybe you're not on top of the world, but at least you're being able to do shows again. Right.

And he just erupted at me, erupted because it was like a piece of management was forcing him to do these live shows.

He hated it. He doesn't want to do it. It's not real to him.

And it sounds like something somebody's just having to do because they're being told they have to do it and not something they really want to do.

And that's the case. I don't know how much how much investment I'm putting into that.

Interesting. Yeah. I mean, watching the virtual reality, you could tell some of them were thrilled to be able to perform.

Some were doing it probably for that reason that you just mentioned. That's an interesting point.

And I wonder how much they got paid like Paul when when St. Paul did an actual live show, too, by the way.

Oh, was it? OK. You think you think that you think they got fifteen hundred bucks?

Like I like I really want to know how much they probably paid for this.

I don't know if St. Paul and the Broken Bones did it for free.

I forgot about that one. That one was incredible.

Except bless his heart, that cape thing. I'm not sure.

Is he still doing the cape thing? He's losing some hair.

So you had the combination of. But oh my God, he's saying his ass off.

Yeah, we got to get him back on the show some point, too.

He was one of my favorites. That's a great.

It's all just break even stuff, Brad. I mean, that's all I'm hearing.

Nobody, nobody that I know other than like home improvement places are making a lot of there are people making a lot of money home.

And anybody if you've got anything to do with home improvement, you're making a lot of money right now.

Mm hmm. But musicians, artists, maybe a few artists have figured out a way.

They're just doing it for sanity sake and to stay relevant and to keep their name out there.

The other thing that the other thing that I've noticed and I know that this sounds negative and I don't want it to be.

Boy, I you've got a lot of artists putting out new music and it's sometimes quarantine inspired new music.

Boy, I haven't heard much. It's very good.

And if you have something that you found that's new, please turn me on to it, because I mean, I'm in this every day and I and I play new music on my radio station every day.

And boy, oh boy, do I find a lot of it to be garbage.

Even the stuff that we're not playing, like I hate to say it, I love local natives so much.

But boy, this EP is just not very good. I love James Blake. Oh, my God, do I love James Blake.

He put out an EP. It's just OK. And I don't know if it's me or if it's them.

And I'm willing to to be convinced on this because I can't imagine that I'm right just yet. But if it it could very well be me and me just not wanting to give much a lot of room for air.

And the data proves it. If you go back and I don't know if we've talked about this on the show, but if you go back and see what people are downloading, consuming, listening to, it's all familiar.

People's people's appetite for new products is almost nil.

You and I talked about this in relationship to a story I did on radio is doing very well. It's that comfort food.

Classic Rock and AC radio is doing really, really well.

Yeah, we want we want comfort. We want what we grew up with. We want what feels good.

We want that blanket that we sleep with every night, you know, the pillow or whatever. And that makes sense.

Yeah, I mean, look at the last few records I've bought from rusted wax.

I mean, it's all old stuff that, you know, it's not new stuff that I'm checking out.

It's I want to go back and get the old stuff.

And I just I can't. I hate I hate that I'm saying that the local natives projects not good.

And I'm not that big of a fan of James Blake's new stuff.

But it just it nothing's hitting me like I want it to hit me.

And I don't know if it's me in the situation that we're all in or if, you know, maybe they're not even.

But I don't know. I don't want to. I don't want to blame them.

But for right now, where I am, it just is not it's not hitting me. Nothing's getting me.

I mean, I would put it maybe in relationship to this podcast.

I mean, we've we've talked about the same thing now for six months.

We don't have anything particularly new to add.

I mean, I think you and I because of who we always there's always my hair.

Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting.

You know what I mean? It's like, seriously, would I wouldn't know what to put on a record right now.

I mean, the entire world is going through this.

So who is going to be that person that thinks I have a really unique?

Oh, yeah. Right now is the is the song. Yeah, this is it.

And, you know, the nobody's thought of this perspective.

The new King Princess song is terrible.

And, you know, and I feel for our friends and repeat, repeat.

They've got new music and I've heard it's good. It's good.

But but how does it affect and how does it land in a in a world right now?

And please, if you've got something new that is that is making you feel something, please send it my way,

because I'm dying to find anything that's interesting.

I'm not a knock on anybody recording right now.

It's just how is it going to land, as you said, with the masses when there's so many things going on that are in some ways we're all in it together.

We're all related, but each each person is dealing with it uniquely.

You know, I just I can't imagine literally being a songwriter and saying,

I'm going to write this thing that's going to hit with everybody right now.

What would that be? Well, speaking of which, you know, who's writing something and has something on the precipice of being released?

And that's all I can say about it right now is our friend Lizzo.

Yeah. And, you know, again, it's going to be an experiment to see if a, you know,

a banger can be released and affect people like, oh, I don't know, the ocean spray guy on TikTok does, you know.

I don't know. We'll see. That's the point. That's my point. Yeah.

Does it come out all? Everything's great. We're all in together. Does it come out?

Do we have an appetite for just a big over the top banger like, you know, Lizzo's? I don't know. We'll see.

I can't imagine this all. It better hit at the right time, the right moment.

But Lizzo, you better get us hooping and hollering. If I don't hoop and holler and holler and holler and holler.

No deal if there's no holler. Is there anything else we missed to get through today?

The news taco you can remember? Well, I was just wondering, you know, since they announced the dates are back in September now.

What does that do to the whole timeline? Does that shift? You know, because normally they would drop the lineup in January.

Are we still getting that in January or is that delayed now? What's the you know, what's the timeline for our our podcast?

If it's me, honestly, and Brad may have a differing opinion.

I think they just landed on those dates because they needed to pick dates.

I don't think they know any more than anybody else, because as we've said at the beginning of the show, we're back.

We're in what? Phase three of phase two. Yeah.

So I just think they just picked a date to get it on there to shoot for and whether that is firm.

And I don't mean this. You know, I'm not throwing shade their way at all.

I just think if I was in a boardroom, what are we going to do? Let's pick a date. Let's put it out there.

Get it on the calendar, because everybody's going to be shooting for fall.

OK, so it's an interesting question. When I posed a similar question to insert person here, they said that when I when I said, well,

originally they told us I was told that 90 percent of the lineup will be carrying over.

And I said, is that going to be that going to be the same case for a September date?

And the answer was explicitly, I have no idea.

So the to me, the 90 percent, you might as well just throw that out the window.

And you can count my bet is you can go through the lineup and find the ones that you can count on.

You can probably even add a couple of things that you can count on, like a my morning jacket, who's a friend of the festival.

And, you know, throw it a throw in a Jack Johnson type here and there.

And you're going to be able to put something together and make it work.

But, you know, a lot of those a lot of those deals a year and a half later, are they still going to be wanting Lizzo?

Yeah, that's a great example. We don't know how that album.

You've made the point last time we talked, you know, she had the zeitgeist.

She was it. Now we're talking two years later. Do I want to hear that again?

Is it the same audience? Did it?

I mean, does the 18 year old that might buy the ticket even know who she is or care at that point?

And how is this record going to do? So, you know, not to not to jump on your thought, but that's a great point.

I mean, that's the whole thing is who knows what's going to be hot.

Yeah. And it's not just it's not just hot. It's it's who's going to be willing and able to be touring come September.

You know, we've got a show in New Orleans booked for next November.

And I know who the band is. I know who they are. I know where they're putting it.

But, you know, again, next November, I know.

And, you know, how do you how do you make the rest of dates work this far out when you there's this much uncertainty?

So, you know, taco to your question, when is the line?

If if if it was me, no, it better yet.

My bet is that you're not going to get a lineup until summer.

You're not going to make sense late spring because not one person is going to know how anything's going to route,

how you're going to put together a tour that's going to supplement a festival date.

There's no possible way to know until, you know, we get in through through Christmas, through an election,

through another wave of all of this.

And then the first spring, if things start to look like we have something under control, I don't know how you I don't know how you put this together.

I don't know. Yeah.

And that that uncertainty trickles down to us because we usually try to plan, you know, a January to June season of a podcast from lineup release to festival.

That throws us out of whack because we don't know what's coming when and, you know, well, we should probably address that a little bit.

And to that to that point, I'm glad you brought that up.

We need to thank all the folks that are sticking with us because no kidding.

Who in the world we never thought, you know, we would do as many shows as we've done.

We've done two seasons worth of shows in one in one year with no festival.

No festival. That's my point with no festival.

So obviously there is interest and thank you.

I mean, I can't thank you guys enough for for the people reach out when the next show.

And exactly. It's not that we, you know, we don't want to do them.

It's just and the next festival is not those that.

Yeah. What we want to do is get more guests.

Some of the acts that we saw it at reality that we loved and some of the ones that I mean, I think we just open it up and just talk to who we want to.

And but if you guys have ideas, send us send us an email or whatever.

And Brad does a great job of coming up with the ideas and I'm sure we'll keep doing that.

Yeah, I mean, it's the patrons that have basically kept the show going really, because that's who really is supporting us, not just financially,

but just, you know, their interest in the show is kept us from not just letting it die.

It is remarkable. It's.

Russ, you and I went had beers with Daniel yesterday. I mean, that's that's a Bonnarooo connection.

So it's it's there and we get it. And so no, I mean, to to TACO's point, I mean, do you know how many times I've said, oh, I just want to shut it down.

You guys keep forcing me to because there's obviously, you know, enough people that are screaming for, you know, more to talk more about bottom, which is, yeah, it's.

Let's be honest with let's be honest with each other. It's insane.

It is. And to that, I think we want to I think what we want to do is do it so that it's fun.

We don't want to keep coming on here and saying life sucks and this pandemic is killing the music festival.

I don't want to be that guy. So so we'll keep figuring it out. And thank you guys for listening.

And yeah, we're going to keep doing it. Yeah. Which is why we're back here today.

I mean, this is October or whatever. You know, it's a reason to have done it. Yeah.

Now, other than people are asking and we wanted to do it. So, yeah, it really does mean a lot.

And if there's one other thing that we probably need to say just in general, and I hate to do this because I really don't ever like being the cliche, you know,

dude that says all the stuff that you're supposed to say, but please, God Almighty, go vote. Yes. And do it.

You know, actually, just do it now and get it over with. So, you know, I don't have to worry about this anymore.

You have to talk about it anymore. You can turn the TV off from now until, you know, probably December 5th.

Just just go do it now. Please. Yeah. Early voting is going on right now in Tennessee and Georgia.

Oh, man, the lines in New Orleans around the smoothie king center. It's it's unbelievable.

The amount of early vote that had 20 as of today, 26 million people have early voted.

And by the time we get to the debate on Thursday, we're going to be to 35. And that's insane to me.

All right. Anything else we need to get to before we go? Well, we should probably since we mentioned the patrons, we should probably thank them.

Barry Courter. It's all you, my friend. You're killing me. I don't have it in front of me.

Taco is about to say I know what he's about to say. He's going to say, it's like we do this every week.

Yeah, he sent it to me. I don't have it in front of me.

Brad, you mentioned to like if you if anyone knows of, you know, new music that's out that, you know, you would like or we would like, send it our way.

Just tweet it at us. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Please do mention probably this week, Russ.

We need to we're trying to set up a site where you guys can buy some of the merch that we put together.

Yeah, we're working on that. We got koozies and stickers and t-shirts.

We have a lot of merch and yeah, once we can get the storefront set up and oh, good, you know, the payment processing, you know, you'll be able to look at that, buy some merch directly from us without having to be a sign up for Patreon.

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We haven't done that yet.

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