This week on The What Podcast, Barry talks with Larkin Poe and their (hopeful) return to Bonnaroo this year. Is Septemberoo still likely to happen? What shows are we binge watching while staying at home? We also talk with our friend and What Podcast Patron David from Ohio.
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Welcome to the podcast for Bonnaroovians by Bonnaroovians.
Welcome inside of our homes, buses and basements.
Barry Courter, Lord Taco, Brad Steiner.
Alongside today, Bonnaroovian David is going to join us from Patreon and Larkin Po.
Barry Courter.
Larkin Po, yeah, reached out to them and should stress this was way well before the whole COVID-19 virus pandemic.
So we don't talk about that.
Larkin Po, kind of Rebecca and Megan from down Calhoun, Georgia.
Just 45 minutes from Chattanooga or so.
We talk a little bit about this is their second visit to Bonnarooo.
They actually started.
It would have been.
Would have been.
We'll see if they can make it next year.
We're convinced.
I'm not giving up yet.
But Larkin Po, they started as the Lovell Sisters as a trio.
They're one of those groups that I've been able to follow since the inception and talk to.
So they were nice enough to reach out.
It's another one of these interviews that we did that I did without you, Brad.
And, you know, like you did at O'Brien last week.
So we're adapting.
We're figuring it out.
But so it was it.
Do you like Larkin Po and follow them because you just find them to be very attractive?
They are attractive.
They're also really good.
They were in last year and they're a rock and roll band.
They got a they can play.
OK, all right.
Well, quite a bit.
Well, I'm excited.
They've got a new song.
I keep digging.
Just came out this week.
OK, so all right.
Well, check that out here soon.
Then we'll talk to David from a Patreon.
But first, let's get in.
Patreon names.
That's sure.
You go ahead.
Yeah.
Is that what you were going to say?
That's not what I was going to say, but you know what?
I'm I'm here for you, buddy.
All right.
Mike Tyson Group, Aaron Carlson, Bill David Grimes, who we're going to talk to in the show.
Frank Swanson, Liesl Condor, Phil Hanley, Timothy Proctor and Chloe Hannon are in the Mike Tyson Group.
So I guess this was it this week or last week that we started to I guess it was this week that they want to reopen the economy.
Reopen the world in some parts of the in some parts of the country, the world being very, you know, generic.
But you've got a governor in Georgia who doesn't know that covid-19 is contagious.
You have a governor in Tennessee who thinks that everybody is going to rush to bars and restaurants because Lord knows, you know what I want right now is to eat at Chili's.
You've got bowling alleys.
You know, I mean, there's been some there's been some funny jokes and online memes, but you know, the one that resonates is doing this is like having a peeing and a non peeing section in a swimming pool.
You know, it makes it makes as much sense.
So yeah, we'll see.
And you might you I know you think that I'm being, you know, I don't know, a little bit too harsh, but it's not happening.
And I don't mean to to rain on people's parade and be negative here, but we need to start wrapping our heads around.
This is not happening. Voodoo Fest is is end of October in New Orleans and New Orleans does not shy away from parties.
Let me be totally frank with you. The people here treated this thing as if it was a hurricane and they were not going to react to it until it made landfall.
And at any moment it could it could swing and miss, but it made landfall and then it shut everything down for a while.
It if New Orleans is not going to throw a party at the end of October, I don't see anybody else in the country throwing a party any time in the fall.
And it sucks and it blows and it hurts. But, you know, I there's just nothing about it that makes sense.
I can't figure out a justification to put, you know, 50,000 people at risk.
I just can't figure it out. I can't I can't figure out the justification and what the argument would be.
Yeah. And again, I keep thinking about it.
It's like which event should it be? I mean, everybody wants to open, right?
So which one is it? College football? Is that more important than festivals or golf?
Whatever, you know, which one should it be? That's going to be sort of the test.
Yeah. And I think as we get closer to reality, the people that are making the decisions are having that same question.
You know, should it be us? Why? Let's wait and see what somebody else does.
So now I agree with you. I don't think it's happening either.
I think we're looking at next year. And then it's even going to be, you know, what's it going to look like?
You know, I don't think we I don't think a lot of people are just going to rush back into 2019 level of crowds.
I just I mean, some of the stories I've done, the restaurants, the health department, they're talking about restaurants maintaining the six foot thing and the social distancing long after this happens.
No more, you know, twelve tops of people sitting elbow to elbow with each other.
And that's just from their point of view, from like your point, you know, do you want to go to a bar that has that many people sitting next to you?
Yeah, there's a lot getting ready to happen that hasn't happened yet.
Yeah. And if you listen to this podcast, I'm betting your answer is going to be, of course, I don't care.
But think about it the day that think about it a Friday, Saturday at around four o'clock when it's really, really hot.
In Manchester, and you are somewhat in the midst of a show on The Witch and somebody sweaty bumps into you or wants to crowd surf.
You really want to touch a sweaty stranger?
You know, as much as or when you're saying that, and I don't mean to be disgusting, but I mean, one of the things we like is that three, four o'clock in the morning shower when there's nobody else in there.
I'm not sure I want to go into any of those showers.
Even if I'm by myself in there, I'm not sure that's going to be a good idea.
Yeah, I mean, it's just it. I don't know if we necessarily think about it all that much because it it's just like a unicorn in our brain.
It's Bonnarooo. It's life. It's experience. It's like, let's let's just go do something.
But then when we're actually doing it, really, like, for instance, every say you talk about how you leave the house once a week to do insert thing here.
Why leave once a week to go to a local brewery, urban south? I pick up beer for the week and then I pick up 10 pounds of crawfish at a place that has a crawfish boil and I bring it back.
And it's my Saturday tradition. I sit on the back porch and eat crawfish and I drink beer.
Just yesterday when I did this week, I for the first time, for the first time, I really felt like when he handed me the bag, it was the first time I was like, I don't I'm touching the bag that you're touching.
Yeah, that's a bag.
Nobody else is around me. You think that you want to, you know, be slinging spicy pies or, you know, empanadas around the house here.
And go for a walk once a day and people are also up there walking or jogging and they go on the complete other side of the street.
You know, yeah.
And these were theoretically healthy people. Yeah.
You don't even want to be next to two people on a street. I can't imagine.
Okay, so then if things start to normalize or get at least better and the trend starts to go in the right direction come August or September.
And then what happens if, you know, out of nowhere pops up 350 cases come the 1st of October or the end of September, then panic, total panic.
And and so let's say let's say you have a festival that you are putting on at the end of September or the middle of September and then something crazy happens.
You know, you feel like you're out in front of it in July and August and then all of a sudden September hits and then there's like 200 300 cases pop up in September.
You don't think that you have just invested how many millions of dollars and you're now looking at a week from now, two weeks from now.
It could be from 300 to 1000 and then you are screwed. Yeah.
I mean, it's just it's too dicey. It's just too dicey. Yeah.
And all the you know, the 2018 flu, the second wave was way worse than the first one.
So it concerns me that we're doing this reopening this week. I just it makes no sense.
Yeah. Especially when you have states that are just now getting to the beginning of their peak.
Like not I like the New Orleans, Louisiana is not even close to hitting that two week threshold of cases going down.
So they're not even close to being opening up something.
But what happens if, you know, by the way, your your pool analogy is totally perfect.
You know, the borders of states turns out are open and people can drive and continue their life and move about, you know, the pool as much as they want to.
You may not think they're peeing on you, but they are.
The water is getting warmer. And it's like you said, the people bringing it back.
It's not it doesn't have to be a sinister thing.
It could be a family member who wants to go see their parents out of state. You know, that's exactly how that's exactly how the numbers shot up like crazy in New Orleans.
Exactly. Mardi Gras, you didn't know you were sick.
Your immune system is compromised because of the debauchery of the weekend.
And then you then you went and visit grandma and the one visit to grandma infected the entire old folks home.
Yeah, Grace, my daughter, Grace, one of her coworkers at a Bonnarooo that they both worked has tested four times positive, showing no signs.
But every time she keeps getting tested, she she's got it.
But she, you know, so how many other guys are out there?
Did I did I say this on the podcast last week or the week before?
So sitting in this chair doing the show, somehow I threw my back out and my back hurt so damn bad for four days.
Literally, as soon as I got up doing the show, I was out, out.
And it was a it was a back pain that I've never felt before.
And it was at the base of my spine. And I didn't think anything about it.
I was like, this just sucks. I'm going to lay down for a couple of days and be fine.
And then Wednesday hits and George Stepanopoulos tested positive for coronavirus and he showed no symptoms.
He showed nothing wrong, but he wanted to go back to work.
So to before they let him back in the studio, they wanted to test him. Well, he tested positive.
He had no symptoms. Nothing was wrong. The only thing that had come up in the last week.
Back pain. He threw his back out and his back hurt.
So imagine my panic after hurting my back doing a podcast about Bonnarooo,
seeing George Stepanopoulos basically test positive for coronavirus because his back hurt.
You're going to think I'm making this up, but I had the same issue last weekend.
But I know I did it because we spent all day cleaning and moving boxes and everything.
But I'm glad I didn't hear that report because I want to get you.
No kidding. It freaked me out. And so to your point, if you don't know that you have,
I mean, hell, the wife all week has had a knee problem.
This woman is the most in shape person you've ever met in your life.
And her knee hurts into the bone. Coronavirus. I mean, like we're all going to do.
I know. And the point the point is, OK, now put that now multiply that by, oh, I don't know, 30,000.
Well, but I mean, that's that's looking at it from a point of view of somebody who's thinking they have it.
It's those people that think they're Superman and that this is all a hoax that want to go out there and are spreading it around.
They're the one. I mean, both are worrisome. Yeah. You know.
OK, so so take the political part of it out. All right. So take the lady who I saw in Fox News the other day,
who was screaming about reopening the economy out of her out of her SUV window.
And the Fox News guy asked her, so what exactly are you wanting to do?
She goes, I need my roots, dad. You know, and like they're literally just worried about their haircut.
So this person who who may not be all there or thinks it's a government conspiracy or this, that or the other decides to go to the event that you decide to go to.
You know what they're calling those lucky me. That's that branch.
That's branch. Oh, yeah. OK. Yeah, it's pretty good. No, you're exactly right. Yeah. Somebody with that agenda who wants to decide for you.
Right. Right. That they're going out. That's exactly right. And I want to love all these Bonnarooo people.
I want to love everybody that's there because we are all sharing a communal experience and hopefully values that we all appreciate.
But not everybody thinks like me. Not everybody acts like me.
Not everybody thinks like taco. Not everybody thinks like you. Right.
It's it's just too much to is too to dicey and too scary.
Like so when Brian tells me that he's not going to be affected, he's going to go.
I still don't know if I would. I just I haven't. I don't know.
I even started thinking. Let me read some more.
I'm pretty sure all my Patreons have physical cards.
John Tess and I like to hear from them is some luck.
Also, we have some good holder.
They also are doing a great job.
They also have been in this with every single post and they don't their
fan page every now and again for nearly 10 years.
Uh, I'm still waiting for stuff like that and I was they really just have something great.
were the yeah so I remember you know the level sisters I know you used to come to
Chattanooga and oh nine you did Bonnarooo right yeah yeah as the level sisters
let's do this if you don't mind if you tell me which one of you is which so
that listeners myself included can sort of get a read on who's talking when we
can figure out voices which one our voices are very similar obviously
sisters but I'm the younger one I play guitar and the lead singer in the main
songwriter to the band and Rebecca and I am Megan I play lap steel and I'm the
older sister nice thank you for doing that I have so much I want to get to
yeah one of the things that I especially and I know Brad does too that we love
about doing this podcast and Bonnarooo especially is sort of following bands you
know I mean that's one of the things I think that festival does really well is
bring people back as they develop and get bigger and we've talked with other
bands about what a thrill that is you know to play a teeny tiny stage in front
of a couple hundred people and then years later play to many many many
people so let's start there what's it mean for you guys to be heading back to
Bonnarooo I love this question because I do think that's a really insightful look
at you know the way that Bonnarooo helps to follow artists as they grow and
change because you know who we were as the level sisters whenever we first
started as you know middling teenagers compared to who we are now as Larkin Poe
and we're in our late 20s we're very different artists very different people
you know the essence is the same but the clothing and the outfitting and the
experience has completely shifted and it feels really nostalgic to get back to
Bonnarooo with all the memories and cats from from then to here I mean we've
gotten to do some unbelievable touring since that first time performing at
Bonnarooo 109 we've you know been on the course with Keith Urban then on the road
with Bob Seeker we've opened up for you know ZZ Talk and just done a bunch of
wild and crazy stuff that I think our you know 17 year old selves could never
have imagined so getting to bring all that experience with us as we come back
to the Bonnarooo stage I think it's gonna be an absolute blast this year and you
were here they were there rather in in 18 and I was just looking back through
some of our notes and we do Brad and I do a thing called Bonnarooo Let where we
spin a wheel and land on an act and then theoretically a lot of times it's bands
we maybe don't know much about but sometimes it's bands that we just want
to talk about and that's what we did in 18 I think you were the third you are
third Bonnarooo let's spin that should that should mean a whole lot we chat
about I know it was terrific I mean to be able to be in people's you know minds
and hearts that that's what makes the whole thing tick it is a bit surreal
we've done so much touring internationally and to have friends
around the world and you know this past winter played China and Tokyo for the
first time and getting to go to Australia again this year like you realize
that the connections that bind people they truly are global and just to be
remembered feels really nice let me go back because like I said we're I want to
jump all over the place because you guys have done so much and it's such an
important story but first of all let people know you guys are from Calhoun
Georgia which is about 40 minutes from Chattanooga as I always say at the paper
when people do well we claim you so we claim you as Chattanoogans
Calhoun is you know 40 minutes south right off 75 so we all the time as you
know Megan what we were probably 15 16 coming up to the signal mountain operate
we were coming through Chattanooga all of the time we did a lot of our yeah a
lot of our like first musical experiences were actually in Chattanooga
so we claim it as well nice but Nashville's home now right yeah so I
wanted to ask four and a half years ago I wanted to ask because we're recording
this on the Friday the week of the tornado so I just wanted to check you
guys obviously did you survive everything I mean it were there any
damage that you personally had to deal with yeah we have been crazy looking at
all of the damage that has been done and we went yesterday and actually tried to
do some help clean up and it was the damage was just extraordinary and the
homes that have been lost and the businesses that have been lost it's
really heartbreaking to see but it is also heartwarming to see all the people
that have showed up and you know people were out in the thousands helping out
their neighbors it's really heartwarming to see people come together you do get
both sides of that my in-laws house was destroyed in 97 when the tornado hit the
day before Easter so I'm having all these memories of the helicopters flying
over in the church groups just walking up and down the street helping people
carry brush and limbs and anything carrying water yeah so you really see
you see both sides but I also know it's it's a long haul I mean it's not over in
a week you know there's a lot to clean up and it's certainly not it is
certainly not and it has been really like you said Megan shocking to see how
neighborhoods are completely reshaped and it'll be it'll be equally
interesting and I think empowering to see how humans are capable of rising
above and rebuilding and making something you know more beautiful than
there was before I believe that that's gonna happen yeah was it 364 houses and
a hundred and something buildings were either destroyed or damaged so but you
know not to make light of it but if anything if Nashville knows anything
these days it's how to build it's unbelievable and and for people who
don't know don't know their geography Nashville is about just a little bit
farther away from Manchester and Bonnarooo than Chattanooga is so it's
obviously on all of our minds which is why I wanted to ask that and the fact
that you guys live there but talk about and you have because I and one of the
things that I wanted to talk about you were at River Band which is our big city
festival last year and I was there and it was a terrific show this Bonnarooo
lineup is stacked as we've talked about many many times and I hope I haven't we
haven't seen the schedule yet so but I'm hoping people will have a chance to to
see you guys have you looked at the schedule yourselves I have and you're
talking about this most recent year where it's blackberry smoke and made
this and all like real people that I revere I think that River Bend has done
an incredible job of pulling together this star-studded lineup that if people
aren't familiar with some of the bands go out and see them anyway because
River Bend has picked like some gems for people I mean blackberry smoke Charlie
star the front man's are for blackberry smoke is like my all-time hero he's he
was such a badass and if you are not familiar with blackberry smoke you must
go go to River Bend this year and see that perform and that's part of why I
brought I wanted to bring that up these festivals big and small are important to
not just the acts but fans right I mean there's such an opportunity to see and
several acts at once number one but also maybe acts that you don't you're not
familiar with that's that's a big part of the reason for going right oh
absolutely I think that's the biggest reason for going and a lot of our
formative experiences with music we're absolutely at festivals where you know
you're able to walk around and just take a sampling of music that you didn't even
know you would like I think it's especially important for children to be
taken to festivals because our parents took us you know to River Bend many times
and all the way up into North Carolina and through North Carolina there's
rural fest which is an incredible Americana American music festival that we
were taken to and got bit by the bluegrass bug you know in our early
teeth and we would never have known that that would have even been something that
would remotely connect with us but just being given the opportunity to
experience music in that very live and organic way it's so it's so special
festivals I I adore festival fees I'm so glad it's almost upon us this year yeah
I want to come back to your parents in a minute but so to just to compare River
Bend is a city festival probably last year there were 20,000 people Bonnarooo
already sold out gonna be 80,000 people there when you play and you've done
Glastonbury which has come up on this podcast several times is sort of the
model that Ashley Capps had in mind for Bonnarooo talk a little bit about the
differences in playing those and Murrell Fest are there differences are there big
differences for you guys as a performer oh certainly I mean I think
geographically it makes a big difference if you're in Europe or the UK as opposed
to playing the festival in you know Oregon State or you know or Tennessee
like you're you're definitely bumping into different people with different
cultural importances and you know even just you know the setting of a festival
we played Megan we played a lot of festivals in Colorado this year though
what was the one thing the Cascades that we played it was a really awesome
festival right in the middle of the Cascade Mountain like just really
intriguing differences but specifically I think between the US and European
festivals there's less differences than you would think you know music lovers
or music lovers around the world and you may not be speaking the same language
when you're you know playing it you know one of the big rock festivals in Germany
but uh but the feeling is the same that everyone is there to achieve the same
purpose which is to connect and to celebrate music as an art form and that's
really special but I mean of course Glastonbury is one of the tops it's it's
such a massive it's a festival of epic proportions like when you when you drive
in you just can't even fathom how huge the site is and also how I mean the
links that people are willing to go to to endure the festival itself I mean I
think the people who have attended you know even a Riverbend or a Bonnarooo it's
like you go and incredibly hot during the day and by the end of the day you're
tired and there and then you go to Bonnarooo and there's people who are
really enjoying the heat for a three-day weekend but then you go to Glastonbury
and there are people that are there enduring not only heat during the day
but a three-day weekend of about 18 bajillion mud puddles that you could
potentially fall into and go down you may never find you again once you fall
into some of these mud puddles so it's like you know you got it's a spice of life you
gotta go out and experience things and I think music festival is a great way to do that.
You mentioned your dad and your mom David and Trisha. David and I
remember speaking to you whatever 12 11 12 years ago a big influence on you guys
musically right and I think that's I was thinking about it before I called that
it's my personal opinion that it's every parent's responsibility to teach music
and music history to their children like like my kids do very well at trivia
night you guys had similar upbringings right our parents are big music lovers so
we do feel lucky to have grown up into a household where a wide variety of music
was being played and our mom was really wanted us to be involved in classical
music and so she was you know playing playing for us like baby Bach tapes we
listened to everything from like classical to she was also she loved folk
music Alison Krauss and Union Station and you know the Carpenter's and then on the
other side our dad was was playing us all like the classic rock records
everything from Ozzy to the Allman Brothers so we do feel feel very lucky
that that they are huge lovers of all different kinds of genres so we we've
really grown up loving a lot of different music so I think our our
influence are definitely fairly wise mm-hmm I think that shows right I mean
that level the level sisters when you were a trio with your sister Rebecca I
mean excuse me with Jessica right yeah was a string basically trio right and
the show that I saw last year with some amazing guitar and and rhythm not
necessarily that same band right talk about how that influence and coming up
with that sort of a household has helped you guys develop over the years yeah I
absolutely think you can hear you can hear you know they put it for saying you
can see the shadow that is passed by a tree show the shadow passed by the tree
shows you where the tree is gonna grow or something like there's some like each
saying about you know following in your in your parents footsteps essentially
which I think is really powerful and I think it absolutely played huge with our
with our development as artists from initially being so involved in classical
music which really gave us a great basis and understanding music and having a
work ethic about music and having your training and then falling in love with
bluegrass music which I think kind of took place all of us together as a
family our parents are definitely aware of Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas and
you know folk music as a general rule but whenever we got involved in
bluegrass as 13 14 year olds our folks were definitely going out and having a
lot of fresh experiences with us well we were all kind of becoming inundated and
bitten by the bluegrass bug at the same time but then like Megan said
simultaneously you know there was so much classic rock being played in the
house and we were young you know dad left Queen Records that look you know
the stones and lead Deflin and you know Leonard Skinner and all across the board
just constantly having music playing so as Megan and I continue to develop as
songwriters you know once we had had the toy experiences as the level sisters
with our big sister we knew that we loved making music there was a lot of
foundational you know experiences that took place with I think our commitment
to making music we did start to toy with the genres that we were moving in for
Larkin Poe by introducing more electrified instruments in order to
achieve the sounds that we had heard growing up with all those classic rock
records because when you're playing in a bluegrass string band you do not have a
drummer you do not have amplifiers you do not have effects pedals you just
don't have a bright instrument on stage so that was a big leap of change for us
whenever Megan picked up the lap steel which is essentially the electric
version of the dobro and I transitioned from mandolin and violin over to
predominantly electric guitar so just the sonic shift was huge and I think it
opened up a lot of doors for us creatively that we never would have even
considered you know walking through until you're suddenly doing it and you
realize all at once oh my gosh we're a little rock band now how does this
happen it feels great was it that kind of a transition it was just a normal
I know when you know Jessica left she's older and left and decided to go a
different route was it that sort of moment where you said well we've got to
decide to go forward and how should we go forward or did it just sort of
naturally occur or how did it happen I that's so funny to me because I feel all
of us feel you know that we are the masters of our of our future and that you
know by by the strength of our will and by the the habits that we do or don't
break you know that we can change the outcome of things but I think as time
goes by and more for a believer in in the organic nature of the way that
things unfold so there was I mean elements of
intensity that Megan and I had I think when approaching the genre shift over
the course of you know maybe the first three or four years of Larkin Poe but by
the same token you know we were 18 19 at the time and so while you may think that
you're being intentional there's also a lot of you know dilly-dallying and and
being 17 18 years old that takes place so I do think that luck and just kind of
I don't even know what you want to call it if you want to call it you know
destiny or I'm not sure what forces are at play but it definitely happened
organically for us and it's just become more and more clear that this is the
road that we want to be on therefore we we travel further down the road of roots
rock and really celebrating roots American music but in a little you know
badass rock outfit and and trying to be as true to the sounds that we hear in our
head as we can be and it is a badass rock outfit I mean I really do hope
people get to see it because it blew my hair back last year that that's that so
it was terrific would you could we like to hear it was that's why I wanted to
talk to you I mean I'm serious it was great and I think you guys opened for
the Warren Treaty right am I getting my days or that was Taz you were the night
before I think but yeah right are you guys would you consider yourselves be
after what we just talked about sort of historians and and I'm asking because
going to a Glastonbury or a Murlfest or a Bonnarooo do they hold any special
meeting meanings to you guys from a sort of a history place where you think about
all the people the bands that you've loved that have played there before and
I've never I've never thought about that Megan what would you what do you feel
that does that ever cross your mind I think that we think back to like the
people that we listen to specifically lately like we're we've been becoming so
involved in in blues music and kind of carrying those traditions for it that
that we definitely think about ourselves I think of like ambassadors like
bringing trying to bring those names to the forefront again like like we're on
stage we're definitely like telling people like who this song was inspired
by and I mean that we do think about ourselves as like maybe not historians
in that way but definitely like like bringing it into our our generation
mm-hmm and I think applying that same kind of thought to the different
festivals that we have played there is a certain amount of gravitas that I think
some of these festivals certainly can you know wield they have this kind of
otherworldly atmosphere when you enter the hallowed grounds you know of
Glastonbury I think actually though the biggest kind of aha moment that we have
had in recent history in terms of time and place was getting to play out of the
I guess it's the Monterey County Fairgrounds where a place in a festival
at Monterey California but it was the original location of the Monterey Pop
Festival so we got to play on stage where Jimmy Burns has a guitar in that
epic you know footage hair-raising but then by the same token you're so
distracted by your own performance you know you're focusing on in my case not
forgetting the lyrics or not tripping over all the cables on the stage that
there's only so much right absorbing of the space that you can really really do
while you're performing but even so that was an especially cool one get to play
on that stage out in Monterey that was special yeah I'm glad you I can imagine
yeah I mean that's probably everybody of any age has that CD or album in their
collection that Pops Festival was amazing and you mentioned Mavis she's
coming back to our River Bend I mean that's like watching history in
personified to me it's incredible she was at what Bonnarooo two years ago same I
guess the same year you guys were and to see her you know talking about being
there when the civil rights marches and all you get it kind of kind of blows your
mind when you think about it and yeah it's important to remember that well we
have the great pleasure of getting to meet Mavis at an event that we did late
last year and I think for Megan and myself as you know late 20 something
musicians having had a lot of experiences under our belt and really
cherishing music and the experience of the human connection that music can
bring and getting to sit down and speak with someone who is as sharp and open
and vulnerable and beautiful as Mavis is that really brings it full circle and it
puts everything into into context of what purpose music serves in our lives
as humans and it is kind of this greater than greater than the summit part type
moment for for the human spirits when you do align and connect for music and I
think that that is the overriding takeaway message for festivals is you
got it you got to go out you got to experience it you got to open yourself
up and share something with your fellow man because it's it's a special way to
do it it's one of the things that makes us most human so it should be cherished
well said I want to ask because we ask everybody on here have you looked at
this year's Bonnarooo lineup and are you who are you excited to see and are you
gonna have time to hang out oh you know we're playing we're playing on Thursday
I it's not right Megan we're playing on Thursday I believe yeah that's right
right yeah so I think that we're gonna try to get out there and see some folks
I would love to see Miley Cyrus I think that she's doing really incredible
things for music heritage in a way when you when you kind of dig deeper into
her her stage performances she loops in a lot of classic rock tunes and gives
shoutouts to artists that I think generation a lot of younger people may
not be familiar with so I would love to go and see a Miley Cyrus show for sure I
think she she's making cool waves for music but she's definitely on the list
to us Thursday has become one of our favorite nights because it's discovery
night you know it's usually filled with a lot of acts that a lot of people have
not heard and the energy is up everyone is so excited to be there it's just it's
a lot of fun it'll be great thank you so much for having us on the show thank you
very much yourselves both of you and I look forward to seeing you Thursday at
Bonnarooo thanks guys
Larkin Poe on the what podcast Barry Courter nice job nice job there buddy it's like you've been
doing this before I've been around a bit it was fun talking then fun catching up
like I said before we jump in with with David I had to have a like a random
question for both of you you got a show that you're watching you got a is
something that you are getting into before you like you're obsessed with the
show that you screaming I had a taco I'll tell you mine good I'm looking for
them I need new ones really well before taco get tacos mine shits Creek I cannot
believe how much I missed this show when it I guess it was just finished right so
but it's been on for so long and I had no idea this is the funniest damn show
you took like four episodes for me to get into it but my god once I'm into it
I literally just walk around the house going David David yeah all day I can't
stop talking like her it is so much fun that's the last thing tacos giving us
that buffering stare we all are very clear with the buffering stare now I
think it turned into Kelsey for a second but what's the show that you're
obsessed with right now the show that you're obsessed with right now oh dark
absolutely watch dark it is the outsider it is stranger things it is Donnie Darko
it's back to the future it it's a German show there's a lot of
Volkswagens in it that's the only reason why he saw it on a Volkswagen message
board and so now he's watching all right on my list I will say the one person I'm
terrible at it will you give me a recommendation I'll be like oh my god
that sounds great I'll get into I know I'll never watch it but Barry Courter is
very good about it if I've ever suggested anything to Barry he always watches it
would have you know what have you been doing yeah you and I talked about Ozark
I thought season three of Ozark was terrific I like that type of show I
went in fact I went back and started watching justified again I missed that
with Timothy Olafant and a buddy of mine recommended ten star and I've watched
both seasons in the last three days Tim Roth is in it he's a Canadian or ends up
being a police chief in a small town and it's it like Ozark which I know you're
familiar with yeah you can't imagine the things that happen look I don't like
Ozark for a few specific reasons mainly because it's a showtime show and
Showtime shows have a problem no Volkswagen's I'm there's no Volkswagen's I'm out
Showtime shows have a problem because Showtime has no hits so they make the
shows milk like they milk as much as they can out of them and they force the
show to never have an ending keep storylines going that are nonsensical
just so they can get more season and more season and more seasons out of them
it's the reason why shameless is so unwatchable you know there's a bunch
that are so formulaic that you know a 20-minute scene could could have been two
minutes and then like HBO you know there's gonna be nudity what every four
and a half minutes and there's gonna be all kinds of man just like this podcast
yeah exactly if you're not watching via YouTube you can always watch our thing
now with moving pictures on our YouTube channel the what podcasts on YouTube but
if you are watching on YouTube or the live stream right over Barry's right
shoulder is a Bonnarooo poster and I can't stop staring at it because it swear
to God it looks to me like it says butteroo yeah it just from this distance
butteroo you know I'm glad you mentioned that YouTube because I want to do I
thought about this we can't play near the music that we do and on the just the
audio version of the podcast a lot of the breaks and stuff that you put in so
you can't do that on YouTube so for anybody who you know wonders there are
they are different well before we get into our chat with David let's read some
more patreon's and then talk to a patreon all right that last group was in the
bring back the arch group by the way this one's the glazed group with Chelsea
Davis Evan Brown Gordon Silver Jason Hazel Baker Joshua Herndon Lauren
Edel home at home Linda dolls Lucy young Nick Yeatman Ross McNamara Ryan
Matthewsson Sean McCarthy Tyrone basket William Richards and Clay Wilhoit well
welcome to the podcast David that's a Lord taco with the beard and full effect
looking very nice there buddy Lord tacos face is the equivalent of Barry
quarter's head and that his hair is just upside down yeah that's Barry Courter
Brad Steiner thanks for thanks for showing up where you got you're in Ohio
as if I can tell by your shirt yes yeah I'm up in Northeast Ohio live in a town
called North Georgetown and if you Google map that you'll see a lot of farm
and green but it's you draw a line between Cleveland and Pittsburgh
somewhere right in the middle there okay got yours got your yin-ling here's the
thing I I've learned about Ohio people they love Ohio I mean they love Ohio
they wear it they hang it on their walls it is just all about Ohio I don't know
what in the world they love so much about Ohio and you guys you're all in
yeah I have a question first before we go too much further
anyone else seeing the big what logo on front of David's forehead or is that
just on my screen taco that's probably just on your screen okay I just want to
make sure because it's like right all right yeah something we can fix now
let's fix it now cool all right well everything's set up so everybody looks
good and everybody's in the right spot so we're ready yeah we're already going
you're saying David yes I know I'm just saying that's true if you went down and
I gave an OH to somebody someone somewhere far away oh yeah automatic you
just do it and how many boundaries deep are you oh one now I was hoping to go
one more but yeah that's my first one we've it's been it's been years in the
making we've my wife and I we met at Ohio State University and we decided you
know what we should we should go to Bonnaroo and of course that's when we're
poor college students so we're scraping by then you know one thing leads to
another life life gets a hold of you and pretty soon I'm getting old older than
you not maybe not quite as Barry but uh no
yeah yeah it gets a little bit tougher going out saying I want to camp out
outside and underneath that that Tennessee Sun so we say we scraped up a
little bit and finally made it out there had had a five-year-old she got to go
hang out grandma and grandpa and we finally made it out there you know ten
years in the making so but it was totally worth it it was awesome her
weekend sounded like mine hanging out with grandpa Barry was it everything you
hoped oh yeah you know when you know I was thinking about it you go and almost
every year for me it starts like in November you get you know you get the
pre-sale going and then you get the lineup drop and hanging out with you
guys going all the different episodes and going on reddit and through you
build this like excitement and you're thinking man I hope it's gonna be
everything I thought it'd be and for me it was all those years and watching it
online when they when they used to stream it online and stuff and it was it
was the best it was the best time and everything that we can you know thought
it would be it was even more and I you know Barry think before you said you
know you go and you smile ear to ear and that's how it was you know so last year
was your first year yeah yeah and so yeah and how many years did you sit
around and just watch the conversation happen before you decided to pull the
trigger and go I'd be if it was in college I'd be early 2000s really and
yeah so what was the piece of advice do you think that you got that helped you
the most when you actually got there that you actually put into effect and
you came after after we're joining man I'm so glad we did blame yeah yeah they
were right yeah yeah there's just so many good good pieces advice that you
scrape through with just being a lurker on on you know reddit and in Peru
especially but I think just doing it the way you want to do it I you know I'm
more towards Barry where I do walk-bys and you know we we had we know we go we
have their plan and what we wanted to do and these must not you know we couldn't
miss these people we did that which was terrific but really it was just like we
ended up places where we didn't intend to you know end up and it was it was
great you know it's all this planning which was great what was a walk-by that
you found yourself that you loved we started off I think it was this is this
is gonna be a while I think the Thursday I think we went to we wanted to see J
Bird and J Bird was awesome and that was just listening to the playlist and
recommendations and stuff and she was terrific and it was you know not not a
top-level artist but it was you know more intimate setting and she came out
and hung out with us after after the set and you know it was really cool and then
just going to I don't know there's just so many I think I'm trying to think like
Warren treaty was awesome I know you guys mentioned that a lot we were
sitting out in the VIP tent next to the this tent and we were just sitting
outside I think it was on lunchtimes grabbing a lunch or something having a
beer like what is that sound coming across the field you know and then it
was just blew blew me away blew my wife away and just stuff like that which I
they weren't really on my like to-do list but it was great you know yeah
Brad I stumbled across playing music this morning I think it was I had we
never talked about that high I'm show you know of all that did you go to that
one you know it's a tad cloudy I cannot cannot necessarily remember if I went
to the hame show it was just so great and then I found the music this morning
and it reminded me and I don't think we've ever even talked about that one
but it was a terrific show and it was a complete walk by for me because I didn't
know I had to fix my set my apologies so the fact that last I think that she
might be baking naked back there I think that we're making breakfast in a
sorry so when you were talking about that ten years of buildup reminded me
how how worried I was about the whole camping experience way way back
over planned over stress was that you guys or I mean people have done it
enough now and there's enough information out there you know it's
maybe not as stressful as it was 15 years ago for me anyway but what was that
like that whole planning did you guys over do kind of goes back to Brad's
earlier question yeah I mean we I'll tell you what I cheated because we went
VIP and I went I went my bond so I I camped look all that savings that we did
but that was the fun of it was just going through and you know for when we
knew we were gonna go when we got the pre-sale tickets and that lead up to it
the fun part was going on and seeing what people did like don't bring so much
food make sure you bring this don't bring this and just seeing all that stuff
and then for my wife and I it's like every time we go out shopping and Target
would have a sale on camping equipment it was just fun to buy all those things
you know and you know by June we had this kind of cool setup and you know we
bought lights and decorated our tent and stuff like that it was a lot of fun and
we didn't buy a grill or anything else so we got all the recommendations were
spot-on and I have taken way too much joy in like decorating camp you really
shouldn't I mean it's not really the most important thing but for us it's the
most important moment rolling out carpet and you know hanging lights really
becomes our favorite thing to do on a Wednesday night which you know maybe
we'll just be doing it in the yard this year Barry because let's be honest this
ain't happening no it's not gonna happen no I disagree with you Brad I think it's
important it's I mean it's fun when we're putting it up it's fun to see
people's reactions it's not it's not fun Monday morning yeah taking it all down
but you know that's part of it so I appreciate that advice that we did we
did bring carpet yeah the carpet was I'm telling you it went I can't explain to
you the the how hard my campmates eyes rolled when I started explaining to the
thing that things I started wanted to bring ten years ago and the one that got
everybody was carpet they mocked me and made fun of me and just I mean wrecked me
day after day for weeks leading up to it and then the second that carpet gets
there everybody's like you know what it's a pretty good idea it was it was the
Bissell that was over the top I did I did bring a carpet it was the Bissell I
have to maintain a very clean space we used it it was great yeah yeah I don't
complain we're gonna have to I'm gonna have to put time out real quick if you
can hit pause I've got to find a charger I didn't know I'm dying here hang on a
second hang on pause we're live yeah
I really don't know if it's worth it or not we're gonna cut this in post but we
never do anything in post is that the it'll never get fixed we're not David
your wife you got we love asking couples this especially you guys go to
everything together or did you ever split up we went most of it together we
did split up there was the time I think we saw I saw Davey by myself because it
was like what mid-afternoon you probably did you probably were right there with
us then you went from Davey right to Warren treaty right yeah yeah yeah yeah
have you ever seen have you ever seen a band smile more than those guys were no
they were so awesome I loved like that and I mentioned like minor set change
them being there and being you could just there were authentic people I loved
being there and loved doing what they're doing and that's contagious I think you
know and that was the fun part about it too that was absolutely Brad we were
just talking about that Davey said he David and his wife I know your wife
didn't go we were with David and we were just talking about how asking me if he'd
ever seen a band smile more than those guys they were happy it seemed like they they
acted like the way we're gonna act post quarantine COVID hugging everybody
loving everything that's gonna be us here in a couple weeks yeah yeah
absolutely they were happy is that the only one you guys split up what you do
just hang out and kind of try to stay in the out of the Sun yeah I tell you one
thing going VIP and getting those other the AC tents that we're all spread across
yeah good move that's gold so yeah so she stayed in there she probably got
like a massage and you know drinking drinking inside the AC tents so I told
her I want I definitely see that one does based off your guys's recommendations
I can't miss that one so I went out and saw that one other than that we saw a
lot of it together we she has she has pretty good music taste a really good
music taste and we like everything in the Sun so we'll see anything you know
we're not we don't have one lane that we stay in so that was the fun part when
um when you saw the lineup this year it was a no-brainer yeah are you gonna go
no matter what the lineup was we usually go no matter what we like the lineup to
us is just the icing on the cake you know we have so much fun just being
there doing everything really so and we know we're gonna find great people and
we know we're gonna find people that we didn't even know about which I think is
half the fun too so yeah tell us it's just the overall experience so here's
here's the thing you know you've got jazz fest was canceled and it was
supposed to go on this weekend well a local radio station one that I don't
work for has put on jazz fest in place where basically you they'll play all of
the old clips from jazz fest and they've got markets around town that are you were
able because everybody loves the festival food right friends and spicy
pie the there's markets in town that will deliver you the food that you so
badly wanted to buy a jazz fest like the crawfish boudin or the crawfish
enchiladas and you know by the way if we could pull this off
bonnar is not gonna happen right but I think that we all would crowd around our
our computer screens and watch a Bonnarooo live feed of every artist that
we wanted to see with maybe you know spicy pie delivered to our house I think
we could figure this out couldn't we it's really interesting
our friend trevin and I can't even think of his name now friend I am killing me
I'm embarrassed man but he like Barry David champion I'm sorry David I'm being
distracted because I'm getting texts from work so David posted a poster of
some other festival that's happening similar to what you're talking about and
it's a great lineup but I don't it's just not the I don't know that I want to
watch music on my computer screen that's not what it's about I can do that
anytime you know I haven't been a big fan either and I respect them for doing
it but and maybe June 11th I'll feel differently because we're not in
Manchester and I'll you know be looking for something I don't know it's just
weird to me you watch any live streams I do I like it every once in a while I
mean I think come June I well I mean what happened to the Bonnarooo live stream
before like it was awesome to watch it live and yeah right nothing very good
on that with a with your I didn't know that I didn't know that I I know I really
always liked like the reason why I can mark certain shows off of my off of my
grid is because I I watched the live stream of Coachella and I'll say yeah
that didn't work you know like we all we all saw like the Lizzo thing coming
because her Coachella set was just so you know even with the technical issues
were like man there's something about this stage show yes the live streams
work in some some avenues but yeah you're right they don't they don't
necessarily grab me ever but boy it sure does feel good when they're on and
Bonnarooo is happening and you're not there you know it's almost like it's
almost like listening to Bonnarooo radio it's not really well done but thank God
it's there and I can it feels like I'm being touched or I'm having a that's
what it is but we're having a universal experience right we're all actually
doing the same thing you know that's why the NFL drafts numbers were through the
roof you know very rarely are we having these communal experiences anymore and
we finally Tiger King or is Tiger King doing so well and had 18 billion
minutes watched on Netflix is because we're finally always all doing something
together yeah it's timing it's a communal thing absolutely yeah I don't know like
I said come June somebody's gonna come up with something we'll probably I'll
probably watch at least be part of something yeah and I can understand Barry
you not wanting to watch live streams as much as you as maybe someone else
because you're watching it on that computer over the right of your shoulder
how are you watching just one of live stream on that 1994 Mac I'll tell you
what's embarrassing I counted the other day I think I have 11 such computers in
my home I don't know why I just can't get rid of some things I want to put a
fishbowl in that one I just hadn't gotten around to it that's that's the
answer Brad I haven't gotten around to it anything and that's gonna be the
answer taco you watching any live streams not really we watched one a few
weeks ago from a local band that was doing something here in Chattanooga and
yeah it's just not the same I mean you're you're sitting on the couch you
know it's it's not the same experience you could be watching movies you know
it's not a replacement for like actually being there live but what if you're
watching it in the bus in the Volkswagen bus wouldn't that be more fun that'd be
more fun okay I could I could set up like a screen in here uh-huh who doesn't
love camping in the garage well it depends on if you're with me yeah the
poor bus yeah that's true I mean that's part of you know live shows is you you
experience it together well if you're sitting at home you know it's you're not
interacting with as much you know the the PBR is a lot cheaper though are you
guys planning to go in September we're thinking about I mean I have a different
way to do it yes it happens I mean I'd love to go I wanted to do the campground
but that got sold out I didn't I was trying to get it like I was trying to
figure out how to do it and they said the tickets went on sale like January
1st call of Jan 1st or whatever that first Monday was sold out and so I have
a I have a room booked at the what is it the Holiday Inn right right there yeah
just to try to do it I visited every day yeah at certain point at certain day I
visited for you know connect with my people you know yeah that's so nice of
you yeah I think but yeah I don't know I mean we don't I don't actually have
tickets at this moment so and I don't know what's gonna happen so it's you
know if it happens in there I just like anybody else we're trying to shuffle
around and see if you can get work off or you know and and seeing if you feel
confident in going in September yeah I don't know what's gonna be like in
September either you know so I think that's like gonna be the biggest hold
back of any of this is is not if insert festival happens it's how comfortable do
you feel actually being there you know I had a conversation with one of our camp
mates yesterday Bryan Stone the host of the world's most listened to and
downloaded podcasts in the history of podcast the stone on their podcast and
he said I don't care bro doesn't matter to me I'm not gonna live in fear you
know one of those kind of arguments but I kept having to remind him say dude
it's not about you it's about what you might be you know bringing to the party
nobody is I mean you're invited to the party it's all the friends that you
bring that are the problem that you know you don't know what you're carrying you
don't know what you back home that's right right and and if if New Orleans is
any sort of indication look what giant you mass events do and how it can then
turn into a big-time problem Mardi Gras was the the source of damn near all of
our cases and you know you get done with Mardi Gras you don't know you're that sick
and you go visit grandma and you've got an entire old folks home now ill so it's
not just you not being scared bro but it's like how much of this do you want
to keep poking how often you want to keep poking the bear and in challenging
this when all the science says you better not poke the bear so I don't know
I don't know what I don't know what it looks like even if it were to happen and
you know would it scare me off Barry I don't know I don't I don't I really
don't know no it's a legitimate concern I mean I I've pretty much been holed up
I go out once a week to you know the store or whatever or run down the street
that's it and I don't I don't know I mean I haven't really put much thought
into it like I'm scared I'm just trying to be respectful I guess and I am
worried my wife goes to work kind of worries me that she comes back home but
she's not interacting with a lot of people currently but if they open the
restaurants back up and the hotels which they're doing I guess this week here
Monday Monday yeah tomorrow so I mean nobody knows my nod of disapproval
nobody knows and I mean people that are arguing that we got to get back to
normalcy and it's hurting businesses and all that is that's not the argument you
know I get I get that it's taco okay one step further about how how you just
don't know by the way you ain't going to Bible study you're going to basically
push your body beyond its abilities of drinking of no sleep of whatever it is
other things that you're putting into your body I mean you're living on spicy
pie I mean you are destroying your immune system for five days four days
however and then you think that you know you're invincible yeah break that's a
good point I think I think I've laughed about it wasn't it was two years ago I
got home that Monday morning and don't remember anything until Thursday and it
wasn't you know that I was drugged out I was just so tired there you are in an
advanced age though that I'm old anything to your point so I go up there
and live unhealthily for five days and then you know guy if I catch you know
something then yeah it's a bad it's a bad deal and and and as we've said many
times the Bonnarooo people don't want that either they don't want that on
their conscience their insurance people's lawyers certainly don't want
that kind of thing so yeah yeah there's a lot hypothetically if it were to
happen who were you excited to see who is your your top three my top three I
want to see I got I'm gonna go home or pick I want to see camp because they're
from Columbus right yeah so I want to see camp who who was it
Briston Moroney yes keep getting name drops yeah last week in the episode yeah
and then you know I kind of want to go just hit all the big names I think you
know going seeing like a Miley Cyrus and Dolly Combs that'd be great or you know
I'll even heck going back to college I want to go see Nellie and see the st.
Luke the st. Lunatics and whatever you know whatever else happened just that
that's like a fun type of thing and I know it's different I think you guys
went to see T pain which wasn't so great yeah but when we did our walk by which
was way far back everybody was singing along really you know and but we weren't
in we were not close we just did the walk but it was so packed because it was
overflowing everywhere we did the walk by of T pain too and the reason why I
say that it was not good is because the guy on stage was just screaming at us
and telling us that we we didn't appreciate T pain as much and T pain
left after two songs and comes back 20 minutes later like can you do a nap it
was very odd I didn't know any of that I just walked in the walk by sounded
awesome Rose having fun so I don't know so you're not gonna go see the baby or
the baby you know what though if there is not a bigger hip-hop artist on the
planet right now then then sir baby and you know you know it once the grid came
out I probably would have figured out a way to checked out Lord baby but I which
by the way Lord taco the running joke is he's graded identifying babies and he's
really good you can find any baby and he'll be able to tell you whether or not
it's a baby Lord taco the baby baby or not he's not really a baby not a baby
I know I've seen a lot of babies and he is not one not a baby I feel totally
scammed totally it's official now yeah yeah what about your end what's what's
the top three going in you know Barry can get Barry can take my top three he
knows my top three we like he doesn't have to look at a lineup he knows what
number one is Brittany Brittany yeah you're ready for number two it's
literally just the people that I know
yeah the ones he's actually spoken to yeah people people I can scam to call my
friends I'm not gonna I know so yeah is it Ed O'Brien is now three he obey yeah
O'Brien at least you have your reasons uh-huh I really want to see that see
you Miley David that's the one I've talked about before that one that one to
me is right up there is the probably not gonna see her anywhere else thing so
that's gonna be that's a big opportunity but there's a long list on that lineup
if it were to happen especially the original lineup for me there's a bunch
of bunch of people to check off on my wish list and over all three of those to
be on those were all good ones you know the thing about what sucks about the
Ed O'Brien thing and I think we might have mentioned it last week if you
haven't listened to the Ed O'Brien interview we posted last week and I give
it a give it a try if you haven't gotten to it but it's it's guys like that that
I feel really bad about I mean this guy you know waited and waited and waited
until it was time to pounce and release his only solo album ever and then do a
tour around it and now I think you'll be okay I think I wouldn't worry about him
too much I care and worry about my friends you know their success is my
success and my future artists pass I will what do you usually do any other
festivals other than other than Bonnarooo no it's usually Bonnarooo we'll hit a
couple concerts and stuff but that's it like we you know speaking of the coming
up the summer we wanted to see David Gray he was coming to Cleveland but you
know I think I'm sure that doesn't been officially canceled or postponed but I
don't see that happening you know last last year we went to see Death Cab over
in Vegas we were out in Vegas for something they happen to be in there so
we just kind of take up the opportunities that we can it's tough in
the Midwest your normal city is Cleveland if you were to go to shows you
it's Cleveland huh Cleveland yeah Cleveland Pittsburgh mostly it's
Cleveland I grew up in in Canton so I that's like 45 minutes away so that's
usually my go-to city I'm trying to think if there's any other music festivals
in and around the Ohio Valley like that what which one am I missing I feel like
there's a really big one in the Ohio Valley and I cannot remember what it was
yeah that was that's been I want to go to is and I was thinking about this year
was the is Wonder Bus in Columbus they started that one a year year so ago and
they had some some good good good vibes coming off that one of course that one
you know who knows what happened in there too because that's it end of
August so well look here's here's the thing and we've mentioned it before but
they got pressure from the city Voodoo Fest did but Voodoo Fest is in the end
of October canceled you know you can you can reschedule you can have
rescheduled date all you want to middle of October if if New Orleans is not
willing to throw a party I don't know anybody else is gonna be willing to yeah
there's I mean they're still seriously talking about college football to your
point and if if those guys are talking about not play and then yeah it's pretty
serious and it's it's again it's just every it's it's as Brad said everybody's
trying to get through the window and the window is closing it keeps getting
smaller and smaller and smaller you could you can you can convince me that
some sports could make sense without audience participation like for instance
golf gonna define baseball actually we probably need this baseball needs you
know a thwart of adrenaline to try and figure out how to make this show better
on TV right this would force them to try and create a better TV product because
nobody's gonna be in the stands I don't know how you do football and you know
big sporting events like that without without audiences and without crowds you
know it's gonna be it's gonna be hard to watch it's gonna be impossible to to
engage with football baseball you know maybe I don't know maybe not soccer but
baseball and golf easy it's easy enough but football yeah festivals get out of
here I don't know how you do that I did hear an interesting conversation about
the Ryder Cup though just because you brought up golf the players don't want
to have it I think it was Roy McIlroy of all the tournaments don't do that one
without fans it kind of it's just be a golf tournament you know which makes
sense yeah yeah there's a difference between like the Ryder open in the
Phoenix open yeah you know nobody really cares man thank you thank you so much
for listening thanks so much for being part of the Bonnarooo family and part of
the what podcast family man we can't thank you enough oh thank you I said
this you guys are great I appreciate you guys doing this because again you guys
are the ramp up to Bonnarooo for me and I know a lot of other people so it's like
first time talking but I feel like I know you guys and you guys are part of
the crew just listen to you guys go back and forth and doing your picks and you
know interviewing people it's it's a lot of fun I tune in every week so I
appreciate it yeah we we try not we try not to have it much different than what
camp would actually be like because I love it it gets big it's brutal and gets
very very brutal yeah yeah you know and Bryan stone keeps coming back keeps
coming back and I don't really know why things have been said to Bryan stone
that I could not imagine and he keeps coming back I mean if I said it to
anyone else they'd pull a gun on me yeah but for Brian it's like okay that's
fine yeah it's probably fair yeah stop yeah stop thanks so much again and you
know hopefully you know if we don't see in 2020 we'll see you see you in
definitely in 2021 buddy definitely thank you so much appreciate it
PLH bio
I've got the one soul to sell for the blues
Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi
Going down to Mississippi
Pain and misery, yeah
Pain and misery, I got
Pain and misery going down to Mississippi
David, a Patreon from the What's Podcast
A podcast for Bonnarooians by Bonnarooians
and expanding into our world of all things open
So, yeah, I mean, with less and less Bonnarooians to talk about
it's gonna basically from here on out just be
fashion advice from Barry
It's gonna be a new thing in everything we've talked about
How to home repair with Barry
How many days can you go with just one pair of shorts?
That's the big question
Well, it depends on if you're wearing them, Barry
Oh, I'm always, yeah
It's not a pretty picture even by myself
Any more Patreons-ery before we head out?
Yep, two more groups, Marty McClide
We've got Andrew McBride, Katherine Mauricio, David Saleno
Janika Marty, Justin Nigro, Meredith Ritman and the Hi5 group
Brooke Tussie, David and Sharla Horton
David, Daniel and Sharla Horton
David Henson, Ella, Phil and I, Sean McCain
With friends like Barry
Out greeting ahead
With Lord Taco for Barry Courter
I'm Brad Steiner, we'll talk to you next week, maybe?
Are we doing one next week? What do we got next week?
We don't have anything lined up
Well, what should we do?
We'll see, your guess is as good as ours
Talk to you then, what podcast? See you later, love you, bye
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