Odds and Ends

Can I make it the next hour without saying the W word?

Can I make it three days without saying the W word?

Can I do it?

I don't think so.

I don't want to jinx what is about to happen come Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday because it looks too perfect.

Looks pretty doggone good.

It looks perfect! Can you... Can I not? I don't wanna say the word. I don't wanna say the W word, but...

Just don't.

But have we ever in the 15 Bonnarooo's or so, have we ever seen a forecast like this?

No. We've seen all kinds of the other kind.

Right.

We've seen it here, we thought it was gonna be rained out and four million degrees.

Four million degrees.

I might have exaggerated.

The surface of the sun.

That's what it felt like.

I can't, I don't think, I can't even believe my eyes. Something is incorrect here.

Like all the... I almost said it.

Don't say.

All the apps, they're wrong. This is not real.

It's gonna be great.

I don't think we've ever had a temperature that low.

I don't think I've ever experienced Bonnarooo in the 70s during the day.

I know.

I was saying the other day, I was like, should I wear pants?

I'm just gonna have to rethink my whole camping. My packing.

I know.

That's what I've been doing all day, is getting out all the equipment and checking it.

Do I need to bring a snuggie?

Some sweats.

Your loungers. That's what they're calling them now, your loungers.

Yeah, so this feels like to me, this episode feels like the last day of school.

Like we don't really have much to do.

We've covered everything we're gonna cover.

We're just sort of filling in time before we gotta go.

Pack and repack and stare at it.

Actually, Repack Repack is my repeat repeat cover band.

It's a good one.

Yeah, we're close, man. We're right on top of it.

I guess we'll go through what we're gonna do today.

We'll just tie up, I guess, some loose ends and talk to two artists that we're really, really excited about.

Two artists that were picks of mine that I think Barry has come around to.

We need to tell everybody who we are, by the way.

They have a very common theme between the two of them.

Oh, sure. Yeah, we can do that too. I'm Brad. That's Barry. If you don't know by now.

This is the What Podcast? A podcast by Bonnaroovians, for Bonnaroovians, four days away from the greatest weekend of the year.

So, Patrick Dronie and DeLacy.

Right, right. Two great guests. Man, Patrick just blew my mind. I think he did yours as well.

I did not expect what he was going to say.

No.

We didn't have any expectations. I've heard the two songs that I really like on Spotify.

I had a conversation with, I was just on the phone with my Warner rep, just talking regular radio station stuff.

And he's like, by the way, just letting you know, we got this kid named Patrick Dronie.

We just signed the label. Like, wait a second, Patrick Dronie, we've been talking about him for three months on this show.

Right. We discovered him, both of them, through Bonarulette. They were both terrific interviews.

And I think they're both very talented. And what connects them both, you'll hear, is they both, with their debut albums, decided to go within themselves, right?

To be very personal. She's a songwriter for other people and talks about how this album was a very personal one that she did just for herself.

Didn't care if it ever got heard or not. Whereas he was a whole lot more, what's the word, planned out about how his career is going.

But man, that guy, his phone contact list is nuts.

I just didn't expect to hear the bio that we heard. And look, I know I should probably be much more professional and better at this than I am.

Believe me, I've been asking myself that for 20 years of my career. But I didn't read anything about him before we got on the phone with him.

You know, it's not that hard to get on the phone and talk to somebody at Music & Bonarulette.

So it's not like I did a deep dive on his bio. But boy, oh boy, did I miss a giant story.

I kind of, I did, just quickly.

Yeah, because you're a professional.

That's true. But you'll hear, I couldn't believe, I asked you before we even called, how old could he be?

Because his bio says he toured with BB King and James Brown. And I'm like, James Brown has been gone a long time.

Right. I mean, I looked at you, what did I tell you when I read that? I was like, he's probably just, you know, lying. He's probably just making that up.

Well, yeah, I think you thought he toured with people who had toured with him or something.

Yeah, but no, he toured with those guys. Of course, he started as a child.

Yeah.

But man, he just kept dropping name after name after name.

It made me feel very uncomfortable. This is not fair.

What have you done with your life to this point?

Patrick Dronie coming up. DeLacy, we'll start off talking to her.

What I like about DeLacy is sort of the way that you pretty much put a nice bow on it. She's a singer, a songwriter.

She's been writing songs for everybody else. She's had number one singles, but you would never know it because she's just a songwriter.

And now she's decided to do her own thing. And she's got a song on Top 40 Radio. And it's a damn good one, too.

So when I do what I do for a living, I know that 99% of it is just drivel, just garbage.

But there are ones that cut right through the noise. They're the ones that you get really excited about.

And you start looking around and asking yourself, I do Top 40 Radio for a living, but why is this song good?

These are all supposed to be bad songs. None of this is supposed to be any good. But she's really, really good.

And My Man is a great song. And it's people like her and Lizzo that cut through the noise.

And you're like, oh man, this is actually not bad. And so we got a hold of her because she's becoming a thing.

She doesn't have the easiest draw, but I hope she does well.

And we'll start our last episode before boundary with DeLacy on the What Podcast.

Hi, it's DeLacy. Hi, DeLacy. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm doing fine.

It's so exciting to talk to you. First off, because when we stumbled upon you,

this is what we really like the most about doing this show, is that when we have a moment like we don't really know what we're doing.

So we just throw something up against the wall to see if it sticks and do a little thing called Bonnarooo Let.

And we just hit the play button and whatever it lands on, it lands on.

This year when we did Bonnarooo Let, DeLacy My Man started playing. And both the me and Barry both at the same time.

I say this truthfully because we've found some of our favorite people this way. We didn't know you beforehand.

Literally five seconds into My Man, me and Barry looked at each other dead in each other's eyes.

And they just got larger and larger as the song kept going. Amazing. Yeah.

You've got a hit on your hands. You've got something special with this song. You must be really happy. Thank you.

I am. I'm really happy about it. I'm just really happy it's out in the world and everyone gets to hear it.

Yeah. How long have you been sitting on it? Well, not very long, but, you know, I kind of wrote wrote a whole album in August

and I didn't really know if I would ever release the music. I didn't really know what I would do with it.

I kind of made it. And so it's cool. Even though I haven't been sitting on it for very long and it all kind of happened fast for me.

I was really just kind of like, wow, this is out like on Spotify and people can listen to this. It's out in the world.

Like, tell us the real to me. Tell us what that's like, because we've had several guests that have been, you know, toiling at it for a decade or more.

And they've gone through three or four iterations of the band. You know, they've the 10 year, 15 year overnight sensation stories, you know.

You were not you were not that long ago. And I don't forget how I saw it described the shittiest apartment in New York ever.

Maybe. So how has life changed? That was mine.

I think most I think for me, it's like, you know, it's definitely been a journey to get to this place as an artist.

But it's just kind of a weird one. I have been writing for other people for like a few years.

And I've recently had success at that. And but before I had success that I was super lost and I was like, what am I doing with my life?

I don't think I ever want to make I've never had anything enough to say that I've written like enough stuff for just myself.

But I just was feeling really inspired because I was really lost in in the industry in general and didn't really know what I was doing with my life.

And I just went to New York and I was like, I'm going to just try to write some music with my producer that I love to work with.

And I was like, called him up and I was like, do you want to just make something?

I don't know if we'll even write one song and it might suck really bad. But can we just make something that feels 100 percent me?

Because I haven't done that yet. I've been writing with other artists and for other artists and with a bunch of pop producers and writers that are all amazing and super talented.

But it's also just, you know, at some point, it's like I just kind of lost who I was as an artist.

And so I just went to New York and I literally wrote a whole album in like three weeks.

And I was like, I don't know what I'll do with this, but I really like it and I like listening to it. So that's it.

I don't know what to do with it. But that's here we are.

It's interesting that that's the decision that you had to make, because like you said, you were writing for other people.

And at some point that becomes it could possibly become a tad sterile.

You don't really have much more much skin in the game when you're writing for somebody else.

But the roster of people that you wrote with, that's a pretty impressive lineup when you start to look at, you know, oh, I don't know, the charts.

You write writing a number one single doesn't necessarily happen to everybody.

No, I know. I'm very grateful.

That's not so. So walk me through.

So if you don't know Halsey, again, I got to remind people Halsey may be a major superstar.

There's a good 70 percent of the population who has no idea who she is, but she's got a number one single and you helped write it.

How in the world did that come about?

You know, I just I wrote this song with some collaborators and she heard it and loved it so much.

And, you know, so she went into the studio and and wrote, you know, wrote her own.

She like wrote two on it and put it out.

It all happened really fast. And it was so I mean, I was so honored that she sang it, you know.

And she made it her own. And it turned out to be so big.

None of us were expecting it.

That's the part that is so baffling to me.

And as a guy who's done this for 20 years, I still don't know the answer to this.

When you have something that you wrote, right, and you just put pen to paper and you create, who do you then send it to?

Who do you then show it to that then puts it in front of the eyes and ears of Halsey?

How does that happen? What does it what does that process like?

Well, it's very I mean, I'm signed as a songwriter.

I'm signed to publishing. So like I have an amazing team of people that are, you know,

and I also have been in the industry for a while now.

I've been paying my dues, that's for sure.

So I know a lot of people that are, you know, and I've I've had some close ones there like and I know a lot of artists.

It's just, you know, it's just when it's the right song and it just happens to be the right the right situation.

It's like timing is everything. It's really crazy in those situations.

And so when you have something that you really like, OK, just say it's without me and it's still a baby and it's still like in a zygote.

Do you send it to a certain person that you know will like that sort of style or are you going to send it to everybody because you know you have something?

Yeah, I don't know. I think it's always different.

It's always different and it always goes to so many different people.

And honestly, the way it gets to to an artist or to anyone is always a different path.

Like really, you know, stories are the same. It's so crazy.

I've had so many different songs in so many different situations.

It's never been the same. So kind of a hard question to answer.

Yeah, but yeah, I mean, sometimes when I write a song, I'll be like, damn, blah, blah, blah would kill this.

You know, right. Hope. But it rarely ever works out that way.

And then, you know, I've worked with a lot of these artists, too.

So then when I'm like writing with them, of course, I'm like, oh, well, this is for them.

You know, they sing it. So it just kind of depends.

I got you. So to kind of dive a little deeper on that, just because of the story you just told and how it's worked for you.

Do you change things? Do you find yourself like the one that you just wrote that's so personal before?

Would you have said, oh, you know, maybe so and so would never say that or I need to soften that or that's.

Yeah, I mean, for sure. One of my things as a writer has always been I kind of

speak the truth. I don't sugarcoat anything that I say.

And sometimes my lyrics are too out there.

And a lot of the time I've had to cut back and, like, you know, kind of make things a little sweeter and less vulnerable or whatever, whatever you want to call it.

First certain artists that don't feel comfortable.

But I mean, that's fine. It's got to be personal to whoever puts it out. Right. Do what they would say.

You know, that's why when I did when I went and wrote an album, I was like I was I wasn't holding anything back.

I was thinking of it in a way where I was like, this is no one's ever going to hear this.

And even if they do, I don't care if it's just from me and I'll sing it.

And I don't care what anyone thinks. I'm never. I have no name.

Whatever else, whatever. So that's kind of like a thing about my music that is like, you know, I feel like a lot of it.

Once you guys hear more of my music, you'll kind of see. But a lot of it is like I think a lot of things that people wouldn't know.

One else would say about me, probably. So what is it?

How does it make you feel now that you've exposed yourself basically and people like it a lot?

Yeah. I mean, it feels amazing. Of course, I didn't know if I was going to hate it.

I was like, is this how you always feel about your art?

I feel like or anything you create, like, is this the worst thing ever?

Or is it really good? I cannot tell.

Delacy, Delacy, I've been doing I've been doing fart jokes on the radio for 20 years.

I just I just assume everyone hates it.

I don't know. It's all funny to me.

Yeah, but that's that's a defense mechanism.

Yeah, it is for sure. I mean, you're putting yourself out there in a vulnerable place.

And yeah, for it to come back is any sort of feedback.

Sometimes it's like, oh, thank God. Totally.

I mean, just just the fact that like somebody wanted to put it out was exciting for me.

I was like not even knew if I was going to do that.

You know, I never knew if I would do that.

Which Delacy will people see in a couple of weeks? Saturday afternoon, by the way, who stage at four?

Oh, yes. I almost forgot. I looked it up.

Yeah. It's coming up so quick. I know. Right.

Well, I'm really excited for everyone to see it. I I love performing.

So I'm super excited. I'm going to perform like basically my whole album, too.

We have the whole set down. My band is amazing.

It's super grungy and raw and live. And I'm really excited about it.

I don't know if if growing up in Orange County, you so much time as much as we did talking

or thinking about a music festival in Tennessee.

But we do tend to ask people the same question every time.

What was your impression or what is your impression of Bonnarooo?

I've never been. But I mean, all I know is that I've heard people say it's like the coolest one

and the best one. So I felt really cool that I got on it.

But I've never been. And that's that's sort of the thing.

Like, I've always wondered, especially in the in the industry, especially people that live where you live

and have Coachella in the backyard. Yeah. Right.

When do you look at do you look at like Coachella and then see Bonnarooo?

I'm like, oh, it's like a redneck cousin or something because it's not at all.

I feel like they all have their own thing. I don't know.

They all all the music festivals have their own like thing about them.

Also, you know, it's all about location. It's like its own city.

Like it's their own festival. I love all of them.

I've never had like a bad taste about any of them so far.

Do you have something specific about your live show that you're doing specifically for Bonnarooo

or for music festivals in general? Like, for instance, I say this because I was supposed to see you in New York

a couple of weeks ago, one of these like record things, and I didn't make it.

And I wonder how I wish that I had, frankly, so that I could see the difference between you in an intimate room

versus four o'clock in one hundred and two degree weather at Bonnarooo.

Yeah, you know, it'll be my first time ever doing anything like this.

Oh, really? I hope I do a good job.

I love that guy.

I hope I live up to my...

I'll offer up to...

I'm a little nervous, but I'm also very excited.

Well, don't be nervous because if you know anything about Bonnarooo, it's full of love.

There's nothing but love on the farm.

Let me just make this offer to you because I think this is a strong one.

If you need a backup dancer, we're here for you.

Solid. That's solid right there.

You know what? I might kick you off.

That's one of the things...

Then that'll be my special thing.

That would be special for sure. That would be memorable.

I've learned all my moves from Lizzo.

Oh, yeah. Of course. Of course, Lizzo.

One of the things we've learned talking with people is that the question really isn't,

is your show better or do you try harder at festivals?

Because that presumes that you turn in 90 percent at some others.

It's more the smaller maybe intimate venue shows.

It's kind of assumed that the people that are there bought their ticket to see you

and they want to be there.

Whereas in a festival, you might have 10, 20, 80 percent who've never heard of you.

So the opportunity is to make new fans.

So it's different that way, I guess.

Yeah, that makes sense.

That's true. I've thought about that.

My man is the single that's from the album.

I am not going to be the first one to make this connection and I won't be the last.

I absolutely love how Dolly Parton it is.

And as somebody who loves Dolly Parton so much, boy, it's got that thread through it.

And the first moment I heard it, I was like, oh my God, Long Live Dolly.

It's kind of for me, I thought the same. It's kind of Long Live Dolly.

Long Live Dolly. Good for you for updating it.

But how cool has Dolly always been?

Yeah, it's true. It definitely stands on its own two feet for sure.

But you've got to see that thread too, maybe.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's funny because that's something people will randomly say to me, of course,

and in comments and stuff.

And I'm like, you know, I would like to say I was totally trying to do an updated Jolene,

but it was literally something I was going through that day.

Like a real supermodel was trying to steal my boyfriend.

And I came into the session and I was so fired up and emotional and feeling insecure and vulnerable.

And I was just bitching about it for like 20 minutes.

And I just sang out that line, kind of.

And we wrote the song so quickly. I even just kind of wrote a lot of it on the spot.

I was just like pretending the girl was right there and I was singing.

Hey, DeLacy, let me ask you this. Did she actually get him? Did it actually?

No.

No. Are you guys still together?

That's a mystery.

That's a mystery if you guys are still together.

So here's the reason I say this is because you made it made it point to say a supermodel was trying to steal your boyfriend.

That's a lot better than like an In-N-Out burger waitress was trying to steal your man.

At least it was a supermodel.

Hey, an In-N-Out waitress could be very hot.

Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.

It hurts. It hurts either way.

Look, I've watched she's all that. I know how I go from zero to hero quickly. I've got it.

What does this do now for your songwriting? Anything? Is it, are you feel like?

I'm trying to balance both. I've already written my album.

So that's kind of nice because I don't need to spend so much time like in a studio trying to get the next songs.

You know, we have them all planned out and we already mastered a whole album.

I'm really excited that I get to put it all out.

But yeah, I'm still like going in with some artists and I'm trying to and I'm collaborating and I'm excited about some other stuff on that front too.

But there's still somebody that you're writing for.

Are you still writing things for other people while, you know?

Yeah, I'm still writing with other people too.

You know, I need to write all the time or I go insane.

There's somebody in particular that you think you as a songwriter and who's written for with other people and for other people.

Is there a voice that you specifically feel most comfortable with?

Do you have a certain person's voice or a certain person's perspective that you think that you connect with the best and it's just easier to write for?

You know, that's a really hard one too because you don't you don't really get to pick a lot of time who you write for.

Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I mean, there's artists that I love working with.

But no, I mean, you know, the reason I'll tell you, I hate to interrupt you, but here's the reason why I ask it is because I love the stories of speechwriters like John Favreau for Obama.

He's got to write in someone else's voice, right?

Especially like I know a lot of standup comics.

They go on to write for Bill Maher or for Letterman.

Yeah. And they've got to figure out a way to take their humor and then write it in Letterman's voice.

And yeah, and some people, some people just naturally do that better than others and some take, you know, a while to start learning rhythms and stuff like that.

I wonder if there's somebody that you just naturally immediately rolled with pretty easily easier than others.

Yeah. So far, I write the best for myself, I think probably.

It's just like the easiest. But I know.

I mean, I hope there's someone else that I can like have continuing success with writing with.

I'm not done.

Yeah, that's I mean, that's such a fascinating question, which is obviously why we keep asking about it.

That's because we're obsessed with process. I don't know why we're so obsessed with process around here.

We are. It's that, you know, if you tried writing in a male voice, a female, I mean, obviously a female voice, but have you tried, you know,

I've totally written songs from a perspective of a guy.

Are you about to ask us to ask a question if she writes, can write a K-pop song? Because I'm going to say no.

I'm going to guess no. I have written a K-pop song. No way. Stop it.

Yeah. So what's not going there?

How? How in the hell does that happen?

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You never know where your songs are going to go. It's crazy.

Who called you and said we need a K-pop song?

Yeah, whose idea was it?

No, I mean, it just landed with a K-pop artist.

Wow. No kidding. Yeah. There you go. That's what we're wondering.

So nothing will surprise you.

Man, I am an idiot. Was it the kind of thing that was commissioned?

They said, hey, we need this or was it something you wrote and somebody heard it and said that would work?

That was actually something I wrote. That was something that I wrote that they heard that ended up with a band.

I just think that's so interesting. That is so fascinating, man.

I've heard, I've talked to John Brine and people like that who said, I tried to write a country song, but it kept coming out hip hop or he didn't say that, but rhythm and blues. How does that work?

I've spent some time in Nashville too and I hopefully will have a country song out one day. I'm determined. That's one of my goals.

How long were you in Nashville?

I've only been there a couple of times, a handful of times.

Oh, you didn't actually live there for a minute.

No, no, no. I've just been to write. I've been to write.

Have you even dove into the schedule? Have you even dove into the day that you're going to be there?

Have you asked your people if you're staying a night or two? What is your plan for the weekend?

Out of now, I think I'm only staying one night, which is sad, but it's because of scheduling stuff.

Is it Friday night or Saturday night?

I get in Friday night. I think I even leave Saturday night. No, no, no. I think I leave Sunday. I think I'll be there tonight.

Well, I can't wait to meet you at Bonnarooo.

I can't wait. Bonnarooo let.

That's amazing. Thank you. I hope you.

Well, I hope you all the success in the world. I really, really want the single to work and I think that it will.

You've got a really, really, really great voice and boy, you got a sound that just works right now.

Thank you so much. I mean so much.

Just so charming, so cute, so adorable.

She's the kind of person that I really like getting behind. Wait, as far as a industry person, as far as an artist, I really like getting behind her.

That's what I meant to say. That really came out much differently than I thought it would.

Kind of creepy.

Yes, I realize that now. So what there was some news over the weekend, I was actually really surprised about this because I haven't.

I mean, it's been years since they've done like artist editions this late in the game.

The biggest artist editions ever happened in the history of Bonnarooo to me is the week before Bonnarooo.

They announced fun. Fun was going to be on the Sunday that tent.

And at the time, fun had a number one song. It's the only it is a bit of history for Bonnarooo history.

If you don't know, there's only been one artist in Bonnarooo's history that's had a number one single while they were playing the the farm while they were playing Bonnarooo.

And it was fun. Right.

You said that once before with I guess when we were talking to Jeff Clayar. He didn't know it.

Buffett was the last minute. Jimmy Buffett. That's right.

That's a great one. Yeah.

That was the year the national was on which and it was in the afternoon.

And I just remember and this was before I was really into the national.

It was just like so hot and he's an all black and it's the national and it's in the middle of the day.

And I'm like, this is terrible. What is this droning on?

But yeah, that was the same year the Buffett. So I've got a hysterical Buffett story about that Bonnarooo.

And I tell the story all the time on the air.

So it turns out Buffett doesn't drink. Jimmy Buffett is not a drinker, which is hysterical considering he's created an entire lifestyle, an entire brand selling people on Margarita's.

The man has been sober for like 30 years. It is funny.

So he he has this beer brand that he's hocking the land shark.

Right. So I will never forget when Jimmy Buffett was when he got there, as soon as he got off his bus.

Right. I just happened to stumble upon Jimmy Buffett getting out of his bus.

So he gets out of his bus and they're walking with his entourage in his manager, whoever pulls out of his like side pocket of his bag, pulls out a land shark, opens up the land shark, dumps half of it out and then hands it to Jimmy Buffett.

And that was right before he walked through the media tent. So right before he got product placement.

Exactly. Right before he got to the media area of when he was going to do all the interviews and all these photos and everybody around the manager hands him a half full land shark.

And he walked through the entire festival with a land shark. And he I followed him around.

I'll say I followed Jimmy Buffett for half an hour. He got right to the witch stage.

They walked him right to the witch stage. And what did he do with that land shark?

Poured it out? Threw it right to the trash.

It was genius. Absolutely genius.

It is pretty funny. I thought you were going to tell him. I thought you were going to say you told him good work.

Great job. Good job. What was it? What did I say? Taco? Great work. Yeah.

So I told Billy Joel when I had the moment to meet Billy Joel. Great work. Great work.

So big addition. Rainbow kitten surprise added to the Grizz super jam. I'm trying to think of any other additions that might have been made at the last minute that were that were big and notable.

I don't think I don't know. I'm thinking like a year's past. I don't think I can think of any other other than Jimmy Buffett.

Well there was the replacement. Who was the band? Was it the Avis that had to cancel or Mumford? Mumford canceled.

And then it was Jack Johnson was putting his place. Yeah. Put in their place. That's kind of a different.

Yeah. Jack Johnson just always available. I mean it's not like he's that busy. The guy I actually talked to Sean who actually booked that Sean O'Connell who used to be the guy that sort of helped out.

He's now the president of the Hangout Festival. Well I talked to him about that moment of how to get how they got Jack Johnson that day.

And he straight up told me he's like when we lost Mumford I'm pals with Jack and I know he wasn't I knew he wasn't doing anything.

He's literally he said the only thing that I was worried about was just getting him on the phone because apparently when he lives out there in Hawaii all he does is surf and he lives like a vagabond and he barely has a house.

He is just like a shack with a bed in it. And if you can get him on the phone it's shocking. It's totally stunning. So he's like I knew I could get him here but I didn't know if I could get him on the phone.

That's crazy man. That is absolutely crazy. That's pretty cool. Yeah. When you have money. He did fine. I mean it's to be able to replace anybody. Right. That's what I mean. Is pretty big.

Pretty big. That was the big news this week because everybody's worried about Cardi B canceling. Cardi B possibly. Right. There's this worry that she's going to cancel and I can't even really figure out why she would cancel but she's canceling a whole bunch of shows.

What the hell. She had. Was it. Yeah she had plastic surgery and it's not healing well. Really. Yeah. What was it on. I don't know. I didn't. I'm not that big a follower.

OK. So she had to cancel this week and this past weekend's festival show. Yeah. For the last like three weeks worth of stuff. Really. Yeah. It doesn't look good. Yeah. It doesn't look good for Monroe. Yeah.

And I wanted to mention you know we talked about last week being safe the whole threat. Yeah. I think they've figured that out but couple that with the fact that there is a new sheriff and just tell everybody be careful.

You don't really know what to expect when somebody news is taken away to expect. I really don't know what to think. We tried. We tried to get him on the show. Right. And he just I guess he didn't answer. He didn't answer. Yeah. I got to reach back out because I get reports from him all during the week. Yeah. From safety.

You know traffic updates all that kind of stuff. You know what would be interesting is I wonder if the old show did he beat the old sheriff like in an election. Yes. OK. Yes. All right. Yeah. Sheriff Graves lost the election and I can't even remember this guy's name now but I mean I'm not going to lie to you. It does scare me a little bit. Yeah it should. Makes me a little nervous. It should. I don't know what to tell people. Just be careful. Just be very careful. Look I mean I've known somebody that has been I mean they they got stopped.

And by the Bonnarooo people and they were randomly searched and it was cops that did it on the way in. Now is a total random thing. And guess what all was taken. Yeah. Well I know a couple of guys from here football player types. They usually work security. And one of my my friends said he was growing through a guy's vehicle and found some drugs because the kid was an idiot and apparently basically had him on the phone.

He basically had him on the dashboard or something. And my friend kept messing with him and the kids started crying. Please don't tell my dad. This is going to ruin my life. And my friend finally looked at and said no I'm just messing with you.

Let him sweat it out. That poor kid. Yeah I mean you know that's the reality. Sometimes the security are literally just football players who got there the day before and sometimes they're the police. So we really don't know what to expect. Do you know speaking of security you know what I really like about Bonnarooo. It's that I can go every year and there are certain security people that are still working the same posts. Oh yeah. Every year. Yeah my neighbor works the main stage. That's right. I know I know.

I know her. Yeah. And believe me there have been years past where like my credentials weren't where you know they usually are. And I've tried to use that angle. She does not play. She does play around. She's very serious about it. But the other hand another kid that I know was working and I said when did you get here. You know the event starts on Wednesday or Thursday. When did you get here Tuesday. I said is that for training. And he laughed he said training was them handing me a t shirt and saying now go away. Yeah that was strange.

So where we pick where we pick up our credentials they also have the employee sort of like orientation in the same sort of space that employee meeting lasts about 10 minutes. Yeah it's pretty funny. It's probably here your post times show up show up. Yeah. So I love the idea of like seeing the same security people in the same spots every year. And the other thing that I love especially on Wednesday and we've expanded our footprint for the event.

We've expanded our footprint for the weekend over the last couple of years. We start going on Wednesday now and I love Wednesday because we can walk in and travel and traverse center route and watch them putting it together. Right. That is the most invigorating thing in the world.

It is such a I can't explain to you the feeling of feeling like being completely alone. It feels like in this and this giant swath of property while it's like being built around you and you're like by yourself essentially you know.

That giant 700 acres is basically empty. Yes. Well 24 hours later it's full. Yes and it's like it's like it's like the feeling of being like in the middle of New York City right where you know action is happening around you everywhere.

And then you look around and you're on a street with nobody else. Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking about it's kind of like watching a time lapse. Yeah. In real life in real life. Yeah. You can just sit there and watch them build things that you're going to celebrate for days and days.

And wait you know last year we walked through we've told the story but it was so cool to walk through there and see the lights. Yeah. The lights in the trees that was with nobody there.

Nobody there. That was kind of mind blowing. Don't know what we're going to get this year. It's going to be fun. We will get to Patrick drone on the speaking of you know we talk about Cardi B canceling and I put this out as a tweet earlier this week.

I found out that if Cardi B were to cancel Lizzo will not be replacing her. So the idea that most people were throwing out there because Lizzo had a giant hole in her schedule makes perfect sense.

They're both on the same record label. They've got you know sort of a similar style. Right. You know it'd be a really really really fun show. That's not going to happen. She's going to be at the MTV Movie Awards on Sunday.

So I basically was told by the head of Atlantic Records not happening. So I guess the reason I bring that up is because Cardi B is about the same time as Patrick Dronie.

So conflicts get a little easier if if that was I can't imagine anyone was picking one or the other or Patrick Dronie. There could not be two different artists on the planet.

But we didn't get a chance to talk to him. Patrick Dronie at the Who stage on the What podcast. So tell us about Patrick Dronie. Where in the world did Patrick come from.

Well I grew up Pennsylvania moved to New Jersey. My dad was a fashion guitar player. So I grew up with blues music and you know guitar playing kind of since I was a baby.

And yeah man just picked up the guitar and I was seven. And that's kind of the only thing I wanted to do. And that's that's all I've done since then.

I have to ask how old are you now.

I'll be 27 in July.

Okay. Am I reading correctly in some of the online bio stuff that you toured with BB King and James Brown.

Yeah. Yeah. So my first tour was with James Brown when I was three.

I was going to say that's awesome.

Yeah I was one of those young guitar singers you know and I was really lucky enough to play with a lot of my heroes when I was a kid and just really immersed in the blues community and yeah BB King, Double Trouble, all those all those guys

I grew up kind of admiring. I was able to share the stage with and yeah it was a pretty amazing young experience.

And you were 12?

Yeah.

Wow. What in the world was a 12 year old doing hanging out with BB King and James Brown.

I know. Well you know I won Robert Johnson Foundation. They had an award called the New Generation Award. It was kind of like the best young blues player in the country.

And I won that when I was when I was around that age and that kind of put me on the map and you know just through circumstance and people just small community you know of guitar players and blues music especially back.

I mean at this point it was what 13 14 years ago but yeah just guys at BB King I really enjoyed passing the torch to like the next generation and I just ended up.

Yeah they're both.

He is great about that for sure.

I've got to start all over now with my Patrick Dronie obsession because I am I am baffled here.

Okay so so you enter you pick up the guitar at seven. You realize that you're pretty good at this. You're growing up in New Jersey and you enter.

Do you enter this competition? Does somebody else enter you? How does that work? And how did where did you go to perform and then how exactly did you win? Who are the other people around you? How old are they?

I mean it's standard fare. I mean I could go on and on here.

Come on. I don't know how it came up. I think I might I might have, you know, like a guitar player Maggie or something like that but I did a video of my basement on like video now on camcorder and I was sent it to the Robert Johnson Foundation which is really just his family.

His son and his grandson and then just a little while later I got a phone call from from Claude Johnson who was Robert Johnson's grandson and I'm sorry his son and he told me that you know they chose me as a new generation winner and flew me out to to Hazelhurst Mississippi where I played with Robert Lockwood Jr.

He was the last living Delta blues musician who actually learned from Robert Johnson himself. My guitar is hanging in the Robert Johnson Museum in Mississippi and that's that's my second family.

And so from that random show that you that you were flown to in Mississippi. How did you catch the eye of somebody like BB King and the rest. This is a big word of mouth.

I mean, you know, I first met BB King before this. Just, you know, he would do the meeting greets and then that whole thing and he would always love to sit down with young musicians and give advice.

So, once I started getting on the map, you know how, you know, how booking goes and the word of mouth goes and I think a guy like BB King always loved a younger gunslinger opening for him and you know he'd always call you back on stage and just like give you a moment with his crowd to clap for you, you know,

to kind of nod his head and then you know just just the chance to be part of like the experience Hendrick store for instance where it was, you know, me and Robbie Krieger and Billy Cox and Mitch Mitchell and double trouble playing Red House stuff like that was just holy cow.

And you met all these people before puberty. This is unbelievable. It all sounds made up. Yes, there's no way you've interacted with all of these people.

You know when I was 12 I couldn't make a fist. Much less. Get the eyes and ears of BB King. How is it. I mean, Brad and I talked last week I guess and we mentioned it several times, we sort of had gateway artists that led us to Robert Johnson there's very few people that start, you know, at that level, especially as a 12 year old was that is that in part because of your dad, I mean was he just sort of like like I've done with my kids sort of listen to this.

Listen to this kind of thing or did you just take right to it yourself as my dad I mean I credit my dad most good things in my life he just he just kind of had me skip the line a little bit but you know he was he was always showing me it's all about context you know like why why am I able to do this and then why was if I found flapping a lot of class and he did all because Robert Johnson, you know, just just kind of put me back in the context wheel and then.

But I just became obsessive, you know I was the I was a kid who's doing my like my fourth grade music class project on lightning Hopkins.

That was just an obsession.

And by the same token, I was also being shown really great songwriting like you know Johnny Mitchell and and James Taylor and the Eagles and kind of realized really early in that process that you know you can play guitar or you're all you want but without the context of a good song, you know there doesn't really have legs, and I realized that there's going to be a little bit longer of a road for me to get to where I want to go as an artist, I didn't just want to be, you know, blues guitar playing kid I mean I wanted to really expand this and tell a story and, and, you know,

and then I cut to 15 years later where I'm really, really making my introduction now. Yeah.

As a pop artist as somebody who's making mainstream music with the reverence for, you know, this is honor that I grew up in, and it's it's a really beautiful way that all ties together to the now.

So that's kind of a crazy low key perspective that I carry, I just want to quickly just finish up and bottle the edge on the bio so once you once you do all this and then you eventually move from New Jersey to Nashville, what age did you say okay I think I need to, to make actually make a go with this

and and put roots down in Nashville that happened over a pretty long period of time I after that kind of stint as a teenager, just playing playing playing playing. I decided to go to NYU I went to Clive Davis's program at NYU.

And I spent my time there just, you know, really diving into the business of music and becoming my big advocate and learning exactly what I needed to do to kind of get to where I wanted to be in New York was a really defining chapter for me.

I spent three years in LA, and really honing honing my thing. And then it wasn't until three I guess about three years ago now when I decided I'd moved to Nashville, where I just saw the, just the opportunity, the community songwriting kind of the craft here it just

makes sense. This is the time I want it because I just really been patient, you know, because you get, you know, one one chance at a second impression, first impression, second chance, you know, so like, all right, this seems like the right time and everything just kind of aligned so it's been three years in Nashville now it's just been really brilliant.

I saw the the NYU thing and it, and I'm curious and it sounds like kind of a silly question but I asked another guy whose resume he had gone he studied classical guitar at all kinds of the France and every all over the world in it, having played with BB King and played with

the background and the legends you know the guys that have that have basically invented the genre, and then to go to a school. What, I would think you would learn plenty from playing with those guys and studying those guys what what did you hope to gain from, you know, going to a school for

music versus, you know, going to the school of hard knocks.

Just doing getting on the road. Yeah, just do it. Yeah, well, well you know, you know, the reality is I didn't go to Berkeley for a reason, I didn't go to to a music playing program I went to a business program you know I, I wasn't going to be able to go learn

guitar the way I had already kind of been immersed in it for me. Right, right. And it's, it's a great way to get your theory going on stuff but for me it was like all right, I've already been through the wringer.

And I want to go and, you know, for me it was I was taking criticism classes with like you know, Rolling Stone writers and like for me it was more about like, you know, music law, and just stuff like that.

Is that something you picked up from seeing those guys because I know a lot of the old, old guys you know that they all wish they'd had a business degree before they signed a contract.

That's, that's exactly that's a great point because I mean if you, if you're him if you're Patrick and you say, look I I'm on I'm sharing the road with, look at the list of people I'm sharing the road with why would I leave that to go schlep in some sort of,

you know, college that I already look look at the experience I'm getting. It's the business part of it that makes sense they all they all have probably missed and probably wish they had more of.

Yeah and look you know it's it's I'm trying to have a true career, a long long career and at this point, you know, just just having the ability to be my biggest advocate and understand what I think with those guys is they didn't know they just wanted to play music and they know whoever was going to help them out cool, but they didn't have the publishing or they didn't have the master.

Exactly. It's just, it's just for me I saw an opportunity to really educate myself and just get deeper into how I can be my, my own boss and and make my music a true business. So, makes a lot of sense. So back to your songwriting and this is what I find to be fascinating is you are first and foremost a storyteller you tell amazing stories and you have a terrific way to turn a phrase.

And that's a muscle that needs to be worked out. And to be able to get there where you are at 27 is pretty remarkable but how does that work. How does that work in where the industry is now. You don't really see many blues storytellers tearing through.

Now that you have the business side of it. How do you take what you have and cut through the noise. Well look, it's kind of doing it for itself. I think I think right now is actually a better time than ever to be to be honest and authentic and people are really craving just honesty and storytelling and I mean look look at look at the pop

music spectrum. Everything is flipping to this, this story perspective I mean I don't care what you think about certain music but it's like songwriting right now really is spotlight and for a guy like me, I just don't think I think certain things don't go out of style, you know,

the thoughtfulness, the right melody and and the right lyric you know story that that just relates for me it's like all I do is I tell my story, and I know that you know my responsibility is if I do that, people who don't have the chance or the ability to speak for themselves,

they can feel like they can relate so that that's really my living test that's how I go. I mean, you know, we just, we just signed Warner Brothers and like there, there are people out there at the very top that really want to push authentic artistry and kind of redefine

what it means to be, you know, an artist in 2019 and I'm really really inspired actually the climate, instead of being pessimistic you know it's like, I think there's more opportunity now than ever to cut through the noise and it's just happening organically and I'm really inspired by it.

I think that you have something in you touched on a second ago I think that you have something that is where my thread usually is and it's it's with artists who are not scared of being vulnerable. And boy you got that you've got that vulnerability, lockdown I mean you play that in the

song. I mean that is nothing but being broken hearted and vulnerable high hope totally vulnerable. So, yeah, it's it's the honesty it's the openness it's the trust that somebody is going to give you the time to listen to it and then it's the trust that they're going to be careful with

your vulnerabilities when you put them out there so I appreciate it guys. Thank you. You know, it's just like everyday inspired to just keep telling my story and then knowing that it's connecting with people like you guys you know how given everything that we said about

going to school education, being on the road what was it then that made you decide on Nashville because I mean I assumed you could the music scene in New York is pretty good the music scene in LA what what was it about Nashville.

Yeah, you know, look everything's timing. Everything's kind of like a match you know preparation with opportunity and for me, you know I was in, I was in the deal.

In LA, you know, my publisher was this guy Lance Fried, his dad was Alan Fried who you know defined the term rock and roll and Lance was one of the great music publishers and when I was getting out of that deal, Lance really sat me down he said I think I think this is this is the time that we go look at Nashville.

I started taking some trips down here and it was like, wow, just felt the energy I felt the focus on the craft you know Los Angeles is, I love LA, you know and right now LA makes a lot of sense for me, my things moving but it's, it's not just a music town it's entertainment

town and New York is not what it used to be that there really isn't much of a community, but Nashville, honestly still just a music city and song comes first, and that's just what really appealed to me and I came down came here and just put my head down.

And so from from Nashville to now Bonnarooo. I don't know what your tour schedule and the shows that you've played in the past is necessarily have been but I'm guessing it's your first Bonnarooo I'm guessing, maybe one of your first festivals how did the Bonnarooo people find you, did your people find them, what was the process like to get into the festival this year.

Well, this is my first Bonnarooo, and I'm very very excited you know this is just one of those just world class festivals that you know growing up is like God just want to play Bonnarooo.

And, yeah, you know as far as how we got discovered there.

You know I think it was a combination of just the buzz of what we've done this year with EP, and just word of mouth and I know you know as a great agent who is such a true believer what I do that just percolates out to anybody who's touching the project like there's just true

passion here and I think the festival really saw that and feels the same way and you know it's just everything here is happening really organically so I'm just excited right now to get this thing out on the road and to be and you know we've played a good amount of shows this year and we've sold out everything we've done and just the transaction between people is what I'm most interested in just going out there and seeing this music resonate in real time.

So a place like Bonnarooo is honestly a dream stage for me to do that. First of all, I hope you're keeping a diary because listening to you drop and talk about all these people that you've already met is like reading the encyclopedia of American music. Yeah Patrick you're going by it a little too fast for me.

It's just incredible. It is pretty good. What was it about now, the here and now that made this record right.

I hear from a lot of artists you know who've written the hundred songs but they weren't ready for an album or they've had three songs and they're ready for an album so what is it about now that that made it right for you.

Are you asking about the specific songs or just the timing of the timing of putting an album together and everything getting to this point it sounds like you're very intentional about things now so what was it about this timing for this, put this out.

Yeah, like I said it really has been a patience game for me and understanding the timing and it's half gut instinct of like okay I've lived enough life at this point and there's so much to be pulling from that it's almost like I am irresponsible to not put this story out and start you know kind of giving back to what I've been given and I think just a combination of that.

The fact that you know I believe in things being meant to be and when I when I kind of made this last shift to come to Nashville and the team around me that came together and all the stars aligning was just like okay a combination of all the experience finally feeling like I'm really in my skin and my body and in my self as an artist and a player and a writer.

And it just kind of was one of those things where it had to happen like the second everything came together, there was no stopping us. This is like a little train that could I mean part of that I can't even explain it just was you know it's one of the things it's intangible in a certain way but I'm so I'm so ready to just knock this door down.

You know hey Pat good good for you you know this is as good of a compliment as I can give. I like Patrick so much and I love his songwriting so much. He's one of these guys that I wish I could get to write a song about me. He's one of those guys, not about me specifically but about like, God damn, hey Patrick I let me tell you something about this, this thing that's happening in my life, could you write a song about that that's the kind of guy like he's the kind of guy I want to write a song about a story that I tell him, and I guess you're going to tell those stories Bonnarooo Sunday,

345 you're up against Lemon Twiggs, Hobo Johnson, Princess. It's gonna be a nice day. You have any plans for anybody that you want to see? Have you looked at the schedule at all?

The National Plan? I still have the National Plan, I do all my theater bands. Yeah Saturday sure. I'll probably come early but Sunday man I'm just I'm going to play and then once we're done we'll see what's going on but kind of getting myself in the headspace. I've got to go there and really show our stuff and have a good time.

It is the moment that could change your life, you know? We've talked to artists after artists after artists that said the Bonnarooo stage, that's the one that turned everything for us. So, could be you this year man, I'm really excited for you, I'm really excited to meet you on the farm. We'll see you soon and good luck Sunday, okay?

Okay guys, thanks for listening. Thanks Patrick. Thank you Patrick.

We took pictures of moments when we thought that they'd never change, they'd never change. Till that night in Brooklyn, we said things we shouldn't. The bridge must have been wooded and the way that it burned down. Now I don't go to Brooklyn, it's like it never happened. We were falling with our feet on the ground.

I just loved his voice, I loved his tone.

I'm blown away by the idea that this kid was 12 years old and more accomplished at 12 than I will be at 112 is fascinating to me. I'm just blown away by this kid's story.

Yeah, it's a great story and what a smart guy. I mean he's playing with those guys at 12, he could very easily have just rode that out forever. I mean he's learning from the best, you know? He's getting a master class from the best and then decided I need to be smart about this so I'm going to go get a degree in business.

I didn't tell this story when we were talking to him because I mean the conversation is not about me but when I was 19, I was going to college at University of Tennessee and then subsequently here at UTC, University of Tennessee Chattanooga.

And I was going for communications, mainly because I just wanted to be in radio. My dream was always to be in radio so I was going to do radio. And so I was walking around the campus of UTC and there was a radio station set up doing a live broadcast, what's called a remote.

And I just walked up to him and was like, hey, how can I get hired to do this radio thing? Because that's what I'm going to school for. And the guy's name is Gene, he gave me the best piece of advice that I share with every kid from now on, from then and for the rest of my career.

He said, call every day until you get hired. And I did. And I finally got hired. And about three months into working at the radio station, I looked around and I said, why am I going to college for this?

Why am I, I'm learning everything I want to know, literally right here. Why am I paying you when I'm getting paid? It made no sense.

I agree. And in most cases, especially in music, that would have made sense for him. Why would he, why does he need a degree? But there are so many stories of musicians who have been taken advantage of. They signed bad contracts. They don't get the royalties, you know, that are due them because they didn't know how to handle it. So smart what he did.

And, and if you're going to be really, really successful in this and have a long, long career, you can't just be a performing musician.

I mean, you can, but it's going to be a lot easier if you're Ryan Tedder. I mean, Ryan Tedder is writing songs for everybody on the planet. You know, he helps write U2's album. He's writing songs for Five Seconds of Summer and Shawn Mendes and people like that.

And by the way, he's OneRepublic. So, you know, he could very well just be OneRepublic, but all the money he's making doing all the other stuff that he's doing, watch out. And if Patrick Dronie can do that, dude, it all started because he decided to leave, I can't believe I'm saying this, leave BB King and leave James Brown.

And go to school and get his, basically get his world together before releasing an album. So it was really interesting. I like him a lot. I don't know if I would have made the same call. I don't think I would have been smart enough to make that call.

Well, as he said, his dad is a big influence. I'm going to guess that they had that conversation many times.

Here's the other thing I like about him, and I wasn't going to bring this up in the conversation with him. He has no streams. He has no sales. Like you can't find him anywhere. This kid is legitimately just now starting. And it feels like, and it feels like we're watching it bud.

We're watching a bud bloom and I get to be on the ground floor of it. I love stuff like that.

That's what I thought the morning of the interview. That's what we were getting this kid out of nowhere. And then we hear his background. That was what was so mind blowing.

So you're crushing my dreams that this was sort of a little discovery that we get to bloom?

No, no, we did. I mean, no, it's very much still that same thing. But then to find out he has that background is what I'm talking about.

The other thing too is like now I want to go to Nashville and just find him because you know it's in some sort of tiny room. He's probably playing a grocery store every now and then.

Right. People are eating bagels and wondering who the kid is in the corner performing right now.

And you're never going to be able probably to see him like that again.

Yeah, I agree.

All right. What any other odds and ends? I got through the whole thing without saying the W word.

Don't do it.

I can't believe it.

Don't do it.

What else do we need to do?

What do we need to do? We are two days away, three days away from leaving.

I'm going to do my final shopping list today. I'm getting all the Bloody Mary things today because we have a tent and I can't camp nut butter just for Bloody Marys.

Right.

We're getting all the special surprise. I worked on that at home.

Oh yeah. We have a so we every year I try to add something dumb and stupid to camp just to jazz it up and make one of my Bonnarooo do's and don'ts make camp fun.

So I came up with this idea with Nikki T to have something added to camp this year and we'll reveal it in some sort of tweet or something when we get there on Wednesday.

It's pretty funny.

It's really fun. It's really fun. And I don't know. And if somebody has done this in the past, you'll have to tweet us once you see it. But I don't know if it's ever been done before.

No, I don't know. And I did try. I think we can reveal this because I still think it's funny and maybe someone will. But I did try to find a microwave. I haven't found one yet.

So I had this really dumb idea to I think Hot Pockets and a bag of popcorn with this here is where I'm going.

Just hearing that. Yeah.

Would just be worth it.

We started thinking like me and we're talking like we have the generator already because we plug up all the podcast stuff.

Why not just go ahead and plug up a microwave with it too and see if we can make some food while one of us is running the vacuum.

I thought cleaning the carpet.

The other thing I said is like we could bring a pizza and just microwave slices of pizza without leaving camp.

And the idea of having a microwave camp, I don't know, unless you have an RV.

Right. Can't be at anyone else's camp.

I just think Hot Pockets would be hilarious.

Ding! Ding! It's ready.

So last, I think I'm going to pack today. I think I'm going to pack today.

Yeah, I'm starting to put it all in the same place so that I can see it all.

You've got your stack? Yeah, my stack.

You get your stack? My pile of stuff.

My pile has been on my front porch for like a week. Yeah.

And I don't know if that's the best move. I had this nightmare. Oh my God, I had a Bonnarooo nightmare.

Would that be a Bonnarooo? I don't think that works.

So I was watching. So apparently the big storm came through Chattanooga a couple nights ago.

And all of my Bonnarooo stuff was there on the front porch.

And I had this dream that it all got blown away like into the ether.

And I had no Bonnarooo stuff. And all I was being yelled at, I was being yelled at,

You're not buying one thing! You're going with nothing!

Brad tends to overbuy.

I am a, yeah. I talked to Nick yesterday. He was on the phone. He goes,

Yo man. And how many people at camp say this every year?

It is the thing that we hear from everyone every year. And it's always a lie.

Man, I was really trying to go minimalistic this year. Everyone says that and it's such a lie.

Yeah, it is such a lie. I actually grabbed a couple of things and I thought,

No, I'm not going to bring them this year. No.

Put it in the pile because as soon as you get up there, you're going to wish you had it.

Man, I really do wish that I brought that microwave.

Yeah, I should have brought the microwave.

We really do need 200 more square feet of carpeting. I should have gotten that more carpet.

I'm trying to figure out how to get a refrigerator up there too.

Well, we are not, I can't believe I'm telling you this, but we did one year sneak in a keg.

Oh, absolutely. That was great.

I know we broke the rules big time, but I got a keg in. We had a tap handle and everything.

The problem with the keg is that, yeah, we know how to work it.

I mean, we've got people who run bars at our camp, but you just can't keep the damn thing cold enough.

Like there's too much ice. There's too much ice that you have to,

I mean, we went through maybe 25 bags of ice for that keg.

That was a great year because what do we mix with it?

Watermelon.

Watermelon. That was really good.

In the shell of a watermelon after it was eaten, we poured the beer into the watermelon and drank it out of it.

That was pretty delicious. That was also the same year that somebody came to camp on Sunday and made Eggs Benedict.

Yeah, we haven't seen him since.

We haven't seen him since. That was pretty good.

We whipped up the grill and started just walking over giving everybody eggs.

We're like, where did this guy come from? We don't even know him.

Eggs Benedict.

Man, I just can't wait. I just can't wait.

I'm excited. Like I told you before, right now is when I start having the night sweats

because I start imagining the W word going very badly.

This one looks pretty good.

Yeah, I've said this before, but I want to keep saying it because I'm so excited about it.

That moment we get to the top of Mont Eagle and I get to look out over into the left

and see so much farmland to the left.

As I go down that hill with the windows down, it's my legit favorite moment of my life.

It is legit my favorite moment of my life.

It's pretty great. It definitely is. You feel like you're leaving one world and driving right into another one.

It is the only time, maybe a couple other times in my life, but this is the most regular,

the most euphoric moment that I have.

Pretty great. I wanted to say thanks to everybody for sticking with us.

We did this for a year. We never would have imagined we would continue.

We look forward. We have so many things lined up this week.

I hope we get to do them all. People that we're going to see, people that want us to come by their camps.

I think we're going to do a couple of podcasts from there.

We're going to do the beer share at Red-A-Roo.

We're going to do that.

We're going to try to do the Roo Bus party on Wednesday night.

We're going to try to do...

Oh, we have presents. Lord Taco just told us you have presents. Thank you so much.

I should say we're going to try to do as many podcasts or whatever as we can from up there.

The internet is always sketchy.

Yeah.

So no promises.

I don't think we'll do anything live because it's just so difficult to count on that internet,

but we'll figure something out.

It's one of these things where you have all the best intentions.

It's almost just like going to shows. You want to do it, but just things like camp happens,

and you just sit there, and you just...

But the...

Ooh, I almost said it.

The W word being better is going to help, but at the same time,

I really... you just get tired of walking sometimes.

I mean, we said... I turned down Alt-J last year because I didn't want to walk across Center Roo.

It was going to be a hike.

We turned down Alt-J.

I know. I know.

For that kid. For that kid.

Yeah.

Who stayed nameless.

That damn kid.

Smoking a cigarette cost us Alt-J.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, you know, we copped an attitude. Copped to it.

Yeah, we did.

Alright, I guess that's it.

See you guys on the farm.

See you on Wednesday.