Red Rocks, My Morning Jacket, and Bonnaroo Stories: RooHamm & Roo Bus Catch-Up

You went to see my favorite band, My Morning Jacket at Red Rocks.

The venue itself just is maybe one of the best venues in the country.

I mean, I'm fascinated with Red Rock.

Is there any gimmick to it or is it just that naturally just different?

When the rain started coming down, we were like pumping the tunes.

We did like Camp Karaoke and other like groups came over because of that.

We had, you know, it was like a little party in like the downpour,

let alone we were supposed to do our panel that day.

Oh, my God. Oh, God about that.

But you guys, the RooHamm guys, have not done a podcast since before Bonnarooo.

And I want to know why.

Well, come back to the what podcast we this is a ketchup episode, episode, episode.

I suppose this is a ketchup episode.

I can't even speak.

We have some special guests or a special guest.

We have some world travelers.

You guys have been all over the place.

We're going to catch up on that.

If you'll see on your screen, we have none other than Parker Reed.

How are you doing, man?

Great. Thanks for having me back.

Surreal talking RooHamm.

Yeah. Well, I want to catch up with you.

Listeners will recognize Parker from the RooHamm podcast, the number one.

And there's no question about it.

There's no other podcast that covers Bonnarooo as well as you guys do.

And Ham's Beer.

Yeah. And Ham's Culture.

I dare someone to find me another.

I was going to say, Barry, what are you doing sabotaging us here?

It's going on. But you're right.

Don't know the first thing about Ham. So, yeah.

Yeah, we are. We the what podcast is the oldest, the first.

But we don't do Ham's Culture. So

we're all PBR over here.

Yeah. I want to catch up.

So this is going to be a little bit of a different episode.

If you guys have been paying attention, if you're longtime listeners, you know,

Brian was out of town last week.

It was on the West Coast.

We're going to probably talk about that next week.

Is that right? Is that fair, Brian?

Yeah, yeah. We've got plenty of time to kill here in the in the off season.

We'll do that next week. A whole you know, and your grandparents.

I don't know. Some of you young folks out there might not have grandparents

that did this, but many of us did.

And I know you do, Barry, at some point or your aunt or uncle or somebody with

the sit down and look at the slides, right?

Look at our vacation thing.

I got a version of that. We'll do that next week.

And the only two things I'll say quickly, there's a story to the post office,

by the way, you know, I was going to say.

So for you guys that were tuning in this week,

you're going to have to wait.

There's a story on the post office.

And I didn't not go to Seattle.

Here's the you know, my my sub pop shirt for the day.

But but it wasn't the primary reason.

So we'll put a pin there. We'll come back.

It was a fabulous trip to a land, as far as I'm concerned, that might as well be

on another planet out in Washington state.

And I had such a great time.

And thanks for, you know, filling the void while I was gone.

And yeah, and then we'll do that next week.

So yeah, sorry, Russ, I know, man, you were turning in, tuning in for the

that post office talk today.

I couldn't wait. I was so excited.

I even drove by my own post office just to get a little chubby,

got a little chubby waiting for it.

You just there's a story.

There's a story. There's always a story.

I didn't say it was a good story. I just said there's a story.

So we'll have to do that one later.

But and Russ, you were with a bunch of

Bonnarooians this weekend, right?

So we'll talk a little bit about that.

Right. I just walked in the door coming back from the other farm.

So we can talk about that on the end.

The mini farm. Is that what we're calling it?

The other farm. The other farm. OK.

The other farm. If you know, you know. But

Parker, man, I have so many questions.

You you have two things I want to talk to you about.

You went to see my favorite band,

my favorite new band on the planet, My Morning Jacket at Red Rocks.

Was that last week or two weeks ago?

Yeah, it was two weeks ago at this point.

Yeah, I mean, it was a big weekend.

We not only did that and then we also went and saw

Mount Joy and Denver Proper too. Oh, nice. Nice.

But and I want to start with this and I and I'm I don't mean to

blindside you, but you guys, the RooHamm guys,

have not done a podcast since before Bonnarooo.

And I want to know why we did, because I miss it.

I miss you guys.

Barry is your number one fan.

Absolutely. He knows he knows.

Loves your show. Who's the first guy that listens whenever you post?

It's it's you and you text me when you text me wondering where they are.

So thank you for I am.

I actually we did record a review episode or a recap episode.

If it didn't make it to feeds, I guess.

I guess there was something on Jake usually uploads.

So I guess I'll throw him under the bus.

Damn it, Jake. Yeah, I mean, I got it.

I haven't heard it. OK, dang.

I have a great surprise for you, Barry, if you go to your podcast feed right now.

Yeah, but we did.

You know, but vibes were so weird after.

Bonnarooo and yeah, I don't know, like,

I feel like everyone's kind of recap episode was just like sad and they were

impressed. And then I actually, you know, obviously we're going to get one next year,

but someone was texting me during it.

Like, I think I'm hearing that it's being canceled out right next year

when I was still like swirling around.

And so when I recorded it, I was just like, you know, really down in the

down in my vibes.

So where are you now?

Where are you guys now as far as Bonnarooo?

You plant you're going back. I mean, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

OK. You know, I guess this year we had, you know, our big group,

big for RooHamm standards, like almost 50, which is pretty good for us.

And sounds big to me. Yeah.

It's huge. Yeah.

And, you know, I think there are a lot of people that are, you know,

dependent on, you know, who's playing and

how they're feeling in January, I guess, because, you know,

so we did have a lot of people who this was going to be their last year.

At least they were planning on it.

And then it got cut short.

So a lot of people are saying, well, we got to run it back.

You know, we can't have an end on the preemptively.

Well, let me ask this real quick, is this a quick reset here to just because I

I mean, I know who you are, Parker met you this year and was happy to do that.

And your partners. But

just a quick recap of the RooHamm podcast, how it came together

and just a timeline real quickly, if you would not not any deep dive,

just a quick rundown. Yeah.

So I went to Bonnarooo for three years with some with the separate

rotating cast of people and then starting which year. Sorry.

They're actually all behind me.

Twenty fifteen, sixteen and seventeen.

Yeah. Fifteen probably.

I mean, maybe age is the best of any of the ones that I've been to.

It's crazy.

And then anyway, most people draw or everyone dropped, I guess,

until I was working with Jake on campus.

And he was really into,

you know, he had been to all the Palooza and stuff like that.

And I said, I'm really hoping to go to Bonnarooo this year.

But my you know, my whole group dropped and he's like, well, who's playing?

And I said, Paramore, the killers, whoever else was there in 2018.

And he said, we'll go. So just the two of us went.

And where the hams came from was we actually forgot to buy beer for the weekend.

It was just the two of us.

It was so kind of slapdash.

And he had hams in his trunk that had been like boiling in his car.

As one does. Yeah.

So he doesn't have a case of hams, you know,

in case the radiator, yeah, in case the radiator bust,

you got to have that hams to put in there.

So we had so we had hot beer in 2018.

And so if we ever make the joke, that's like we prefer it warm or hot.

That's why. And yeah.

So this isn't some pass down through family tradition

of drinking hams since your grandfather or something like that.

That's where the hams thing comes. That's funny.

I did not know that.

Yeah. Specifically, pretending to rue like through college.

Like it was kind of, you know, you know, where Iowa.

Yeah, I am. Jake lives in Minneapolis.

Yeah. But where was college? Oh, Iowa State.

Yeah. OK, thanks.

Yeah. And you had to bring it in because you can't really get hams in Tennessee.

Not that I'm know of, at least not easily.

Not these days. Yeah.

You know, I. Yeah, I know at Ernie's Nashville, they have it on tap.

Wow. Our friend, our friend, Bonadude, usually

kind of scouts it out, lets us know where it's happening.

So if anyone in the national area wants to hit it or Ernie's Nashville.

Cool. Yeah, because you kind of smokey and smokey in the bandit

to get it into Tennessee in the back of your car.

Yeah. And so a podcast is born out of out of that trip in 2018 then.

Well, you know, we listen to the what religiously and thank you.

Know, those those drops were so especially in 2018 when they were a little

not as like, I mean, y'all are so on point now every week.

Like then it was kind of like more scattershot, you know, so it was like,

yeah, so we would like text each other every time one drops like, oh my gosh,

it's here. And then, you know, Roo Bus got in on it

and we said, you know, well, you know, let's let's try it ourselves

because, you know, like everyone, you just talk about it so much.

Let's just hit record, I guess.

Might as well. You have a podcast with your friends every other week or so.

Might as well record. Right. Yeah.

And y'all, you have a radio background.

Yeah. He as well. Yeah.

Yes. Jake and I both were DJs at like the campus

on campus station, Kure.

And then I did a little bit of like news broadcasting right out of college.

Those three a.m. mornings hit really hard and I don't do it anymore.

Partially for that reason.

But yeah, I was I did like professional radio in quotes for,

you know, two years or so after college.

I guess what I want to the Bonnarooo thing, you joked about it because we all have

you talk about it all the time, right?

That it became an obsession.

But you got other people to go with you.

That's kind of what I want to talk about.

You said 50 people were they they're from everywhere, right?

I mean, I guess literally coast to coast, we had people from L.A.

and New York as well as primarily the Midwest.

But, you know, a little bit of

yeah, L.A., New York, a lot, Tennessee, obviously Minnesota,

Iowa, primarily.

So when you said earlier that some of your people, this was their last time.

Why? You know, I think I think some people, I think for our group,

it's like we just are so into it that some people

some people jumped on just because, you know, we're so passionate about it.

We talk about it so much that, you know, you jump on and they do love it.

But I think now that we're all like, you know, approaching 30 or we are 30,

I think a lot of them aren't in a lot.

And, you know, group campings ostensibly GA, you know, from a an amenity standpoint.

And so a lot of people are just not about the camping aspect

and, you know, just the PTO of it all.

And they like it, but they aren't quite as like into it

as all of us are on the show, for example.

I think the three of us are proof you can still go to Bonnaroo in camp after 30.

Yeah, that's true.

It does. It does get tougher and tougher, though.

Yeah, but you don't have to just give it up. Right.

And I think this year, I mean, obviously,

really tested some people's sanity.

But I think it's a testament that I would say not all,

but a majority of those people outside of like the core,

what we consider five to 10 people,

most of them are at least considering coming back just because,

you know, it was hell for 24 hours.

But, you know, it's just, you know, I think we have done a really good job

with our group camp, you know, we don't do anything like super flashy for like,

you know, the general public.

But, you know, this year we had like our classic, you know, camp bar.

We had five unique drinks. We had camp trivia every day.

We had the pong tournament.

That's something we really like to do, like program just for the group.

So what kind of from your vantage point, as the rain was starting to fall

early Friday, rewinding to that Friday of Monaru, what was your camp like?

How did that go for the next five hours for you guys?

Was it really I mean, as far as flooding itself, where you were at or just

the conditions and just the mood of your people that day?

Yeah, great question.

So it kind of threw stuff off right away because a lot of people

were really wanting to see Ginger Root, who was like 2 p.m. or something.

I wasn't going to that.

But so people were like that was like right when the rain started.

They were walking that way.

And as they were walking there, they said, like, we're delaying.

And so people were already like a little annoyed about that in terms of like spot.

You know, it's funny is when we got placed, we are actually kind of annoyed

because we got placed in like the very back corner, far from the group

amenities and far from center.

And so at first we were like really.

Annoyed by that, bummed out by that, like, you know, this is kind of a bummer spot.

But, you know, once the rain came in, we were far from foot traffic and we were at,

you know, high elevation wise comparatively, you know, so all of our stuff got wet,

but we were not underwater.

And I don't know if anyone's stuff got like, I mean, some things obviously were tossed,

but I don't think anyone's like gear was outright ruined from flooding.

But the mood, the mood as the day progressed, tell us just just run through that.

I mean, we're talking around one o'clock or so and then around eight o'clock is when

we start seven o'clock to eight o'clock.

Yeah. So our group starts to realize that we're done here.

What that's a six, seven hour window.

How did that how did those spirits go and crash?

Yeah. So, I mean, probably the biggest crash ever.

But, you know, starting at, you know, whatever that was, one, two.

Let me jump. Let me jump. What was it?

How was it different than 21?

The hurricane where you guys were what you were in?

North of Nashville.

Well, you got the word. Yeah.

And you know, I think you adapted and made the best of it

because you were on the road.

So how was that different in addition to Brian's question?

Right. So first of all, shout out

Short Mountain Distillery in I forget where in Tennessee,

but that's where we went in 21. Amazing moonshine.

Anyway, I think I think the main difference was, you know,

we had just had a great Thursday, not my like all time or Thursday, but

you know, still great shows that day.

And we were queuing up for a crazy Friday as well.

And I did. Absolutely.

Yeah. And Thursday, I actually turned in because, you know,

it was going to be such a marathon of a weekend.

And, you know, I was like, you know, I feel like I like

could and I guess this is a testament why you like should do,

you know, these things.

But I was like, you know, it's going to be such a marathon weekend.

I'm going to go back. So anyway, yeah.

The next day, like one, two p.m., people were mostly annoyed that, you know,

shorts sets were going to be shortened.

And then, you know, after a couple hours, people were like,

you know, we're not going to see Ginger Roo or whoever else.

Flip turn was that day, let alone we were supposed to do our panel that day.

Oh, my God. I forgot about that.

I was going to ask about that.

I was so excited for you guys because ours was awesome.

Yeah, we'll come back to that for sure. But can you do it?

And you are going to do it next year. You know that, right?

Yeah. I mean, if they'll have us.

Yeah, we've gotten promises already that your guys are well bred.

One of those guys is calling the other guy who's not there.

That's why I said it on

Brad never heard of him.

Yeah. Well, so that actually does kind of feed into like the narrative

of the day at camp.

So, you know, you just kind of sit around for a while.

And then, you know, we are texting Kelsey,

who was great, comms wise, just from like, hey, we're going to plan it.

Roo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Yep.

And so we're just like, you know, we're going to delay.

That's fine with us.

Then it got pushed past the date and we're like, OK, you know, whatever.

We're sitting. But, you know, there isn't that there wasn't that much to do

that day besides just sitting around and drinking.

Drinking. Yeah. Yeah.

Which which was great.

But so that fed into it a little bit because we were

like, should we be like, should we be cutting off at some point?

Because we we technically got to be professional.

That's right. At this at this point, the story we're like,

we need to be on stage in.

An hour, two hours, three hours, whatever it was going to be.

And there's no reason to believe for sure that you're not going to that day.

Right. I didn't even think about that anxiety.

My goodness, I would ruin my whole month.

Brian, that's why I picked Thursday.

Well, there was a lot of good reasons to pick Thursday,

but in hindsight, clearly the best reason.

But yeah, go ahead.

But I mean, it was actually, you know, just detached like in a bottle.

Like it was a really fun day up until Bobby's cancellation.

Like when the rain started coming down, we were like pumping the tunes.

And we did like Camp Karaoke and other like groups like came over because of that.

And we had, you know, it was like a little party in like the downpour.

And then a group down the way like brought out a huge tarp

and there was slip and slide happening.

So there's kind of a classic Bonnarooo people like

making the best of the worst kind of situation.

Like we said, like with those like joys kind of came the eventual like,

you know, meteor hit.

What about when you got the news?

Yeah. So we were, you know, sitting back and Jake kind of this year,

we had like like a camp P.A., which we were really excited about.

But he kind of came over the P.A.

and started like reading something.

And I remember yelling at him because I was on the way other side of camp.

I was like, we can't hear you speak up.

And he's just reading the statement.

And as he started, obviously, we thought like just today would be canceled and

and then just the eventual cancellation.

Everyone kind of like

what, you know, from

how to communicate with like our group,

basically, like that was what was most stressful initially, like

because basically we had to like just break out with, you know, five or six of us

that kind of plan most of the things and just kind of be like, well, first of all,

we're like processing all of that.

And then we have to be like, OK, well, what do we tell anyone?

What help do we offer people?

You know, what can we even do, you know, in this instance?

And it was tough.

But, you know, so it was a lot to process, you know, just the general like

so much to process that didn't even like hit me the full like cancellation

for a couple of hours after that.

No, I'm sure. And so once you did start to gather your thoughts,

you and and your, you know, your closest, we'll call it teammates on this.

What was your plans for the next 12 to 15 hours?

You don't live an hour away.

You live to a state and a half away.

Yeah, yeah. What are you guys thinking?

And do you feel are you are you like team captain?

Are you feeling like it's you're you know, you're in charge, your daddy,

that type of thing, you got to be responsible for the others.

Yeah, I would say four or five of us.

That's even that's even harsh. Yeah.

And you know, we, you know, revel in that.

We love the process.

But obviously, that was like the first time that something that big had ever happened.

And basically, it just kind of boiled down to like.

And it was and it was it was, you know, the timing is what it was.

But, you know, the sun was already setting and so people were like,

and so this is when it doesn't help.

You know, I'm sure everyone experienced this, but, you know,

we'd been drinking all day, so everyone's like emotions are heightened as well.

And you know, I think this is it.

Sorry, this is an incredible dynamic to all this, because it's not this is

this is just what you do there when there's nothing else to do.

This isn't a bunch of degenerates.

This is just what you do.

So everybody, many people experience this.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, no.

And it's this group here, because like Brian, you went home

because you had not been drinking.

You don't drink anymore.

So you're like, finally, I'm doing things and I can make well.

But I did. I'm I'm like Parker.

I'm like, you know, I've had a beer.

I'm not getting in a car.

Russ, I don't even remember.

But you weren't going home.

Ross never leaves. No, no, no.

I yeah, I had been drinking, too.

But also, you know, once the bus is set up and there's tents

and everything connected, I can't drive off.

That's a lot of work to pack up and head out.

So I don't think any of us at our camp, other than Brian,

thought we got to leave now.

So we lost just just to recap a little bit, Parker.

We Brian left.

The villains left, which was hilarious because Tara was not leaving.

But Joe was like, we're gone.

If you remember that, he was like, I don't care if you go with, but I'm gone.

We'll come back tomorrow.

She yeah, she was devastated.

She was actually she told me in private that she's like,

I was so relieved when it got canceled and everybody had to leave and not just me.

Yeah. But yeah.

So I'm trying to rethink everybody else.

Nathan Gale left eventually in the middle of the night.

Yeah, we didn't even hear him.

Super early. Yeah.

Through basically dragged his tent to the garbage can and left.

Said I'm out.

So, yeah, go ahead, Parker.

I'm sorry. I just wanted to relive our little mini camp.

I mean, it's you know, everyone processed on their,

you know, on their selves.

And then basically everyone broke into like their own cars,

you know, the people that they rode there with.

And basically it just boiled down to what do those people want to do?

Like some people left that night, especially our friends who volunteered

in twenty twenty one who were on site when the hurricane hit.

They said we are not risking anything like this again.

We are getting the F out of here and packed up, got out of there.

As it seems to be, a lot of the volunteers did.

And I do not blame a single one of them that their only payment

is the festival that just got canceled.

So it's time to go.

Like, I don't have a problem with that at all.

And then, you know, there were some of those shows

that were being rescheduled in Nashville.

We had some people that went to some of those.

And then the third category, including the car I was in, we just

the next morning just drove all the way home and.

And getting out was what kind of what kind of it was fine.

Was it? Yeah, it was fine.

The next the next day, like I said, we were kind of like, I will say

the camps that were up by

like the amenities, the showers, the water, the stages, whatever.

In group, they had way more like foot traffic.

It was way muddier over there.

And I think a lot of the anxiety in group, I guess, was just like.

I mean, it was like it was

there was kind of a moment there where it was like it kind of felt like a like a

what would you call it? Like

like a boil barrel or whatever you like.

Is this thing going to explode tonight?

Like because I mean, like we said, everyone have been drinking all day.

A lot of people, I think, were.

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

And, you know, there were tons of people just coming over to group

because there were multiple like people putting on their own parties,

which was fun. But in

in fact, the camp next to us had a party and they had a DJ until 5 a.m.

And I was so not in the mood.

And so I'm just laying I'm just laying there in my hammock,

knowing that we have to get up in three hours or whatever.

And I was in such a bad mood, but I will give this person credit.

They were cooking with their mix.

And I was in such a bad mood that I was like, I want this to stop.

I'm like, I'm so annoyed right now.

And I wish they were not.

But this person is very talented.

So what was different about that attitude versus 21?

I think just the fact that we were there, everything was set up like 21.

We had an opportunity to pivot.

Yeah, before you got your your roots.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, because it's such a different thing.

I mean, it's people don't understand.

They say that, you know, we've heard people say,

these things get rain all the time, but not on Thursday.

Usually it's Sunday and you've already been there and you deal with it.

You know, you're there.

Thursday was a little bit different attitude, at least it was for me.

And I'm like you Friday morning.

I was so loaded up looking forward to

the rest of the weekend.

So yeah, it's not often that that one day of Monro gets such wide

agreeableness from everybody that this is going to be a big day.

Right. Like there's just one day doesn't stick out as well

or as much as that one did.

And then that happened.

So, yeah, that's that's brutal.

What kind of drive is it to back home in Iowa hours wise?

If everything goes well? Yeah.

No taking stops out of it.

Twelve, 13 hours.

Jesus. That's a long ways.

Again, we're kind of spoiled, Brian.

No, I know. Trust me. It ain't lost on me.

What about your your partner coming from Indianapolis?

How the hell does he travel down?

Yeah. I mean, same thing.

They just left at 3 a.m.

But did they do that by car?

Oh, yeah. The whole damn way.

Yeah.

You guys deserve a trophy.

All right. So again, you did you say you did the show after,

but you haven't done any when you and Michael and Michael.

And by the way, Michael is I know it's you and Jake that started it,

but Michael is such a key component.

I think he's great. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, absolutely.

Like it started, you know, because when Jake and I started it, Michael,

Michael went the first time in 2019.

So when we started it, he hadn't been yet.

But I mean, Michael was like the main person who was like latching on to all of the

Rue culture and the Rue, you know, the line of building and stuff like that.

Like, you know, he's just always cooking on that, like text texting me

throughout the day, like you hear that game, you know, it might be like a

joy producer contributor kind of guy should.

It sounds like a very valuable team member.

He does the deep dives. That's what I love.

Yeah. All three of you guys do.

But he does the deep dives.

And what I love about Michael is he's like, if he didn't like it, he didn't like it.

Oh, yeah. Sounds like a guy I can get along with.

Absolutely. He's like, no, no, no, no.

Moving on from this. Yeah.

But so why have you guys not done a show?

Yeah. I mean, the show is still a thing.

Like it's coming. I think we are just way more like when it fits in our.

Schedule, I guess,

like we're way more of a casual, like, I mean, y'all and

Rebus are so on it like like we're just we're kind of like the we're kind of like the.

I don't even know what word that we would say it like, I think we're content

with what it is, and we love that people listen and want it.

And I think we just don't have that much to say, but I will say

TBD on like

additional like details, but we might experiment on like

some different kinds of episodes this fall or next line up season,

just in terms of like more topical, because the other day we were talking about,

you know, whatever new album is out and like the recent like streaming discussions

around Spotify, we might like do more topical episodes like that,

because in our group chat is just blowing up that stuff all day.

And we're like, why don't we just hit record on this?

Yeah, I think one of my favorite episodes was the the

vocabulary when we had you.

That's that's absolutely one of my favorites.

Right. Yeah.

Because I don't have a clue what you all are talking about.

You say so many different terms and it makes it so funny.

I'll give a shout out to like, you know, the next generation as well.

Like, I mean, we're coming up to 30 like Kiefer and Ryan with the Rue report.

Like sometimes I feel that way about them, too.

So sometimes, you know, because they're in their early 20s and.

You know, it's coming. It's cyclical.

For us to do a show every week, it's kind of a blessing and a curse,

because, you know, two weeks ago, we had an episode cut, ready to go.

And we were just going to take the week off because we had it in the can.

And then Brad announced that he's quitting.

And then, you know, we had to get on and redo it basically.

So because so many people were expecting us to have something to say.

So, you know, it's kind of a cycle where it's hard to break out of.

It's hard to take a break now that we do it every week,

because people kind of look forward to the show all the time.

So it's a good thing and a bad thing.

Brian, you were going to say something about Brad,

because you haven't been you haven't been here for a while.

Oh, yeah. As far as big news since you've been on.

Yeah, we're kind of just throwing stuff against the wall in this week's show,

as far as, you know, show sheet kind of style stuff.

But yeah, talking about Brad Parker leaving, you know,

I've been gone for a couple of weeks now, so I I've I've I've only made the joke

on on social on Twitter, which got a little bit of play.

I you know, my Twitter activity or X is very little.

I mean, engagement is very little.

But the the festival post about Brad leaving and I quote tweeted it.

It must be weird for Brad to talk in third person like this.

Got a few laughs.

Me and Brad have had our little sparring from time to time.

I really do think he's excellent at what he does.

I want to know why.

I want to know why he doesn't want to work for my group.

I want the personal story that might not be for air.

I want to know for real.

And I know I know it might be as simple as this is a better gig.

Is it really? Are we sure about that?

Or this sounds like a big time leap there, Brad.

And I'm pulling for you and good luck to you.

But wild story out of nowhere.

And, you know, I like to know people in the in the decision making process.

And we just lost one.

But we'll we'll we'll learn the new she, I believe.

Right. A she taking over.

I think we haven't had official confirmation, have we?

Yeah. Mm hmm.

But yeah, apparently.

Parker, how weird is it?

You're in Iowa.

I mean, we're in we're in.

It doesn't really matter that we're that close this close to Manchester to me,

because I think Bonnarooo people

feel like they own it.

How weird is that to you?

I mean, you're in Iowa and you do a podcast about Bonnarooo.

Just in terms, yeah, like the proximity, I guess.

I mean, just that that ownership feeling, that's what that just strikes me

is unusual, unusual.

I guess it's unusual to a big event that so many people in a

in a large circumference, large circumference circumference of an area.

And we know who Brad is.

We all know who Brad is.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, to the Brad point, I think.

Yeah, I mean, people are asking like all these questions like in our group,

I go, what does this mean, whatever?

It's like, I mean, I don't really know.

And I think most people are.

Yeah, sad just because Brad is such a good, like public facing

member of the community. He enjoys being talked about.

Let's just get right to it.

And we all do it because he's an important character or

runs the show member of the of the show.

Yeah, exactly. But just from like the I mean, I think like with the Internet

that, you know, the ad, you know, the popularization of Reddit

and the discords and everything, like it feels like we're closer than we are

just because, you know, I'm here talking to you all right now, you know,

and we're all remote.

So we might as well be in the same room to an extent, you know, and I don't see

all, you know, pretty much any other day of the year.

But I think, you know, just the popularization of Reddit

and Discord and everything like in the podcast, like it makes it feel so much

closer than it is.

I will say it is.

It has been interesting to shout the Iowa local tie to see

Hinterland Festival,

Interland Music Festival kind of adopt some ruby and practices

in certain ways, still not to the same scale, but

just as it grows, just seeing some of those influences.

Yeah, I'm glad you you brought up Hinterland,

because we talked about it in the extensive pre-show meeting for two seconds.

I was following along with the the changes and thank you for making

helping like kind of connect us with Sam, who runs a joint and reaching out

to people from Bonnarooo to do the things we're talking about, make it a little bit

more like that and fix their festival, which it appears they might have done.

Did you go to Hinterland this year?

Oh, yeah. OK, cool.

All three days. So so before you do, I want to hear about it.

Just overview quickly.

But when this 90 degree guarantee thing, right, like the it sounds cheesy

and cheap the way it was if you if you word it like that.

But in the end, it really feels like a lot of this worked out pretty well.

But when you first heard about that after the disaster of last year,

just weather and water issues, what were you thinking beforehand?

Like a month out, like this is a good idea.

This is a weird idea. Let's see. Go for it.

Yeah. I mean, I think such a I mean, a great idea just for transparency.

Like I have been on staff at Hinterland before.

And obviously Sam is my boss, et cetera, yada, yada.

But like, I mean, just after being on the ground, I feel like Hinterland is such

it like it's it's it's gained such like

like nationwide, like people, you know, certain years

people come from all 50 states for it.

It's got a good lineup most years.

Yeah. And, you know, I think but with that, I think it's still so like local,

like people like locally still feel such an attachment to it.

So I think the outcry is like stronger than maybe because, you know,

we're a smaller scene, so people know who to like or assume they know

who to like point fingers at, for instance.

So I think just like addressing that as like head on as possible

in an innovative way was like, I mean, I know so good,

like people are heard and they have that option.

And, you know, it worked out.

It was like the best weather to any festival I've ever been to.

It was like seventy five every day in cloudy.

So you along those lines, you go, you do go.

And we're going to talk about Red Rock.

You you and Michael and Jake go

go to a lot of different shows.

How are they different?

And in particular, and I guess I'm making this point,

you could do a podcast about any of them,

but you do a podcast about Bonnarooo and obviously Ham's Culture.

But so how are they different?

And why does Bonnarooo rate a podcast and not the others?

Yeah, I mean, obviously, Rue was the first

I would say major.

Could you do a podcast about the others?

Could anybody do a podcast about the other festivals?

Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I think.

You know, it's hard, you know, maybe not 52 episodes in a year.

But, you know, maybe, but I think just the Rue of it,

you know, not only is it, you know, so storied and so historic,

and I'm far from an expert or whatever, but, you know, I am going on 10 years.

So I at least understand like the.

You know how people within the fan base feel about it and people like,

I think that's like the main difference is people like want to do like.

They want to be a part, they want to be a part of it,

and they want to program their own and they love to, you know, cite certain show,

you know, this show from O5, you know, whatever.

And I think that's part of it.

And I think, like with all the shows, like everyone kind of bounces

off of each other and just that sense of community and

is just what makes it.

And I, you know, because I didn't go to Hinterland until 2018,

even though it did its first year was 2015.

So I've been going to Rue longer than any other event that I've been to.

So just a quick recap of Hinterland this year.

You said the weather was great, but I was reading through Reddit and others

that the water issues, which if it's 75, you don't have people who really,

really need a lot of hydration.

But water was taken care of.

Lines were down like that's just Reddit talking.

If you would just kind of give a review of that.

Yeah, I mean, I would absolutely agree.

They had different stations, more of like automatic water bottle stations,

whereas in the past they were like hoses that you would have.

Not literal like house hoses, but yeah, yeah.

Yeah. They kind of spray into your own.

And I mean, the number one, like just it was so comfortable.

They moved it. It's on the same plot of land, but they moved it

to like the other side of this that they used to use for parking.

And so a common like comment was it's almost like too big and too spacious,

which I think compared to last year was such an upgrade.

I don't ever complain about that because it'll go away.

Yeah. Yeah.

And, you know, there's just so much room to like escape if you need a breather.

Whereas, you know, the old natural amphitheater was awesome.

But, you know, as we saw last year, it kind of reached max capacity.

So just felt good to like,

you know, being able to like spread your wings literally and not touch another human.

Sounds like a dream to me.

So everybody feels like it's here to stay, at least for the immediate future.

Oh, absolutely. The festival.

All right. I got to I got to know, man.

How was had you been to Red Rocks before?

I had not. This was my first time.

All right. So for anybody who doesn't know, my morning jacket is my favorite new band.

I mean, there's the Beatles.

And then as far as new bands and Bonnarooo, 2008 or whatever,

seeing my morning jacket changed my my perspective.

So how awesome was that show?

Yes. Are you a big MMJ guy?

I mean, is just a cool rock show to go see or you go deep with them?

Yeah, no, I would say I'm like a base level fan.

You know, like a stand, a stand, not a stand, not a stand, not a stand.

Not one of Barry's words he learned from you.

I learned from you guys had to look it up twice.

No, I mean, I mean, like like we have kind of been talking about.

Most of my MMJ like footprint has been like from, you know, their history of the Roo.

And they were there in 2015.

The first year of that, I went didn't see them.

But I remember that year, that was the first time I had heard of them

because that I remember that year they were playing everywhere.

And so that was, you know, we were like, who is this band that like?

So I didn't really even dig deep in or dig deep in quotes.

You'd have been 20. You'd have been 20 years old, right?

I would have been 19.

OK, 19 when I went to my first year.

Yeah, they're almost a classic rock band.

Yeah. But I mean, so I will shout out

my girlfriend, Paige, this was her idea to go to the my morning jacket.

So like after the Roo was after Roo,

the Roo was canceled.

You know, the refunds are hitting and everyone's like thinking of these

make ups, you know, what shows can we go to?

And Paige loves Red Rocks.

And she was like, my morning jacket is there and Melt is opening.

It was going to be at Roo this year.

We are so excited to see.

And so just I mean, just the the venue itself

just is maybe one of the best venues in the country.

If not, you know, not that I've been to, obviously, a majority of them,

but one of the best venues I've ever been to just from like a pure like

scope and like how it feels being there

and just the uniqueness and the quality of like pretty much the entire experience.

I mean, I'm fascinated with Red Rocks.

I'm fascinated with, you know, many of these, you know, the gorge

and in Washington and other places.

What is it that makes it so great?

I know it's a great picture.

It's a great picture. It's a great aerial. It's a great postcard.

Is the sound that much different than a than an outdoor place?

Is that is there any gimmick to it at all?

Like, is it the well, it's you know, it's it's fine here,

but it's just we all we celebrate every bit of it.

Is there any gimmick to it or is it just that naturally just different?

You know, I will say I think the sound is for at least this one show

that I went to was like good, not the best sound that I ever heard.

I think it's just like the the weight of being there, like so many of the vibe of it.

Yeah, like people treat it like we talk about how big these

Rue shows of history are, like people talk about Red Rocks the same way.

Like, I think Jacket said that that was their 19th ad mining show, Red Rocks.

They played two nights.

I think it was they said it was their 18th and 19th.

And so they just have these stories and just like the uniqueness of the

and like you said, the postcard, just like the destination of it.

Like people say, I want to go to Red Rocks.

And they don't they don't even know.

I don't know why. Yeah.

Yeah, because it's open to the public.

It's a public park in the and when it's not open, correct?

Like, I think you can go run the stairs or just hang out around the

the venue even when it's not open. Right. Correct. Correct.

Yeah. I mean, just talking to people after the show.

I mean, multiple people that are I'm friends with were like, oh, I've been

I haven't seen a show there, but I've been there. I went during the day.

Oh, wow. OK. Yeah, I would do that in a heartbeat.

If I if I got the chance.

How far away is that from

middle Iowa or roughly from where you're from?

We flew.

We flew. Yeah. My sister moved to Denver.

So had a great place to stay, obviously.

And it was only like, I mean, it's just outside Denver,

about a half hour from where we were staying.

So it's like just outside of the city, but close enough that you can drive.

And the way that it faces is you can see the city proper.

You can see the skyline and all of Denver.

Oh, really? Top of the stage. Nice.

Speaking of venues, a little change of subject.

Shout out to Todd Mayo and the Cavern.

They got an AC, an Academy of Country Music Award as best venue.

Yeah, yeah. So I sent Todd, I sent Todd a congratulations note

and he said, thanks, man. But yeah, that's

hearing your questions, Brian, is kind of like

that's what I was thinking of.

I mean, the Caverns is clearly a unique experience and we love it.

And I put the Red Rocks right there.

It's the same. I mean, they're the two that I think of.

And, you know, Madison Square Garden would be the other.

But that's because of history.

Yeah, this history.

Hollywood Bowl, maybe would be another one in California. Yeah.

So, yeah, it's interesting to hear you say the sound was OK.

I would think it would be awesome.

See, I think that's what we're all conditioned to think.

Yeah, there's a lot of variables that can go into that clearly.

Have you been to the Caverns, Parker?

No. But Barry, how you're feeling about Red Rocks,

I feel the same way about the Caverns, like I want to find a time to go.

It's awesome. It's I mean, we are so biased

because of our close connections to it and proximity close to it.

Jesus, guys. I mean, I can't every time I go, I'm like,

I can't believe this place is right here.

And when I so when I think and I'm almost maybe I'm using that a little bit

without thinking about it of like Red Rocks is was Red Rocks cooler

than the Caverns because the Caverns rocks, man.

And it's got multiple ways that makes it so great.

But yeah, I mean, if I don't, I mean,

Red Rocks has to be compared.

It's to me, they're the almost the same and not well, natural, natural.

Yeah. Venues built into a

interesting historical natural.

Plus, you saw, like I said, my favorite band, so I'm into it.

Yeah. And they played the two nights, no repeats.

I was just there the Saturday show, but we met up with some real people, actually.

And one of their friends went both nights and, you know,

just the community of jacket as well.

Like it's it's it feels so similar to the real community, just

welcoming and they got that they got that like hybrid jam band,

mainstream rock kind of loyalty, both from from the jam

people, the jam community and just the rock and rollers that just love the music.

You know, there's that too.

So that's sounds like a hell of a time.

Got to get there sometime. Been to Denver a couple of times.

Love the state of Colorado. Never been there.

I got to do that someday. Absolutely.

So, Parker, what are you thinking about next year?

You got any I mean, just.

Yeah, that's a great question.

You're I mean, you said I think you've already at least

insinuated you're going.

But what are your thoughts on next year?

Thursday changes?

Any other changes that, you know, you want to speak to?

I'm you know, I am vaguely positive on all of it,

especially like the scaling, the slight scaling down the,

you know, I know that a lot of people are bummed about the Thursday.

And that's the part that I would say, like, maybe I am.

But I feel like I feel like Ru the since 2020 or 2022, whatever.

I feel like we in this year and, you know, maybe if this year wasn't canceled,

we wouldn't even be saying this.

But it had gotten so big that there's like nowhere else to go.

And so it kind of feels good to like,

I guess we'll see how it pans out, obviously.

But it feels good to like rein it in just a little bit.

I'm actually kind of pro that decision.

I'm really I'm thank you, Brian, for asking that question.

And I'm glad to hear you say that, because I we felt the same, I think.

I don't mean to speak for Brian and Russ, but I'm glad to hear you say that.

It just felt like it was getting.

I don't know what something a little cluttered, maybe.

But but my biggest thing is with big events.

And I'm talking more about like

sporting events and leagues and how they expand and expand and expand.

And most entertainment things, it's just never, never retract.

We only expand. We only make it more.

We only make it better.

And eventually it's like, what are you doing?

And so I hadn't thought about this until you just said it that way, Parker,

that, yes, maybe maybe this is a good little bit of a pullback reset.

And it creeps its way back into some different

programming throughout the day, because Thursday really had turned into a more

and more of a bigger and splashier day.

I personally really liked it.

But that's just one man's opinion on one days of programming.

When you zoom out and and macro look at it,

things really were starting to get bigger and bigger.

And eventually it kind of feels like how big is too big?

And I ask that question about things all the time.

And the way you just put it made me think about that.

And I think that's an interesting way to think about it.

That changes my mind a little bit.

Yeah, I kind of think about it sometimes, like when you look at like the posters

that have, you know, 100 names or whatever, and it's epic and it's awesome.

And people are always like more, more, more.

And I'm like, I'm only going to see 20 of these bands like.

So adding another 50, does that make it objectively better?

I don't think so.

Like, so anyway, like just my opinion, I guess.

And I guess we'll see how it pans out next year, obviously.

Like if it's the worst lineup ever, it's the worst lineup ever.

Well, at the end of the day, you got to have some good names.

No, it never is.

You got to have some good names and they will have some good names.

So maybe an easing it in with a little reduced capacity

could really increase the overall fan experience.

I guess we'll find out.

And I mean, I don't think it's a negative to have more.

A more comfortable experience, I know some people like roughing it out,

but I mean, it's still going to feel big.

Like, I forget what number they said, 65 or.

Yeah, they'll make it big one way or another.

Yeah, yeah, that's about the number.

Plus, and you guys, again, going back to Jake and Michael, I mean, I love hearing

what's the squirt gun, the beer.

What's it called? Oh, the shot gun.

Yeah, the shot shot fun.

Yeah, shot gun.

Those are the moments as much as in a who's on stage.

That's the thing that we love about this festival.

All I'm thinking, I don't know what this is, Parker, the shot.

Is this like is this like a super soaker that you're?

Yes, with a can of beer.

OK, I mean, I thought that might be what you're talking about.

I watched Jake shotgun a warm hands.

As a tradition with a super soaker.

So it's a tool.

Just put in a hole right here and then opening it up is not good enough.

So I wish I had it in my hands.

It's in my basement.

You insert this can.

And when you pump it, it punctures the bottom of the can.

And when you pull the trigger, it pierces the mouthpiece of the can.

And then you. That's that's more efficient.

It's one of my favorite memories.

I love it.

That's the kind of stuff I love.

Parker, man, thank you so much for giving up some of your time.

I'm you know, I can't wait for you guys to do another episode.

Thank you. Yeah.

Yeah, maybe I'll listen to one one of these days.

Parker, it's OK.

Yeah, I don't listen to anything.

I don't listen to anything.

You won't listen.

I don't listen to our own show. I know he doesn't.

All right.

So we got a little bonus,

Ross, you spent the weekend Labor Day weekend as you have done

the last couple of years with our good friend Lindsey down at the other farm.

Yeah, I just got back from the other farm down

at this undisclosed location close to Manchester.

Our friend is a secret code.

There's a secret code to get in.

You got to know basically. Yeah.

Yeah, you got to know somebody.

Yeah, Lindsey's got about, you know, 12 or 13 acres

of just beautiful land.

There's a creek that runs behind it.

So, you know, we sat in the creek towards the end.

We'll play a little clip because Daniel came down, Daniel from the rubas.

The three of us sat in the creek and just kind of got caught up

and talked some Bonnarooo stuff and talk some totem stuffs.

It's called the other farm because that's where what.

Which one was it?

19 or not 19, but 20 when it canceled or was it 21 where?

Oh, they were the big refugees.

Was that both?

Both. Yeah, both were canceled.

We both had big events over there at the other farm.

Yeah, Ryan made a big sign that kind of mimic the other stage.

But it just says the other farm.

And so that's just how it got its nickname.

They are that first year.

You know, we had a couple of bands play and yeah, we're actually right now.

I helped him. He's building a bathhouse out there.

There's never been any type of like bathroom situations.

So anytime we have a group, we always got to rent a porta potty.

So he dreamed up this, you know, a little kind of outhouse style

with a toilet and shower and sink.

And so, yeah, we we did some work on that, some plumbing work

and put some boards up.

And so hopefully that'll get done at some point.

So do we do you need to set it up?

I mean, I sound like Johnny Carson.

Do we need to set up this?

Do we need to set this up?

Well, basically, we just sat in the creek and talked a little Bonnarooo

and talked about were you naked?

Because Lindsey typically gets naked in the creek, right?

He does. Really?

Because I don't want to see that.

Yeah. I don't make sure that he was sitting

so where the camera wasn't pointed up is killed.

OK, well, good enough. Good enough.

All right. So run the clip. Here we go.

Hey, everyone, as you can see, I am in this beautiful creek.

I'm here with two good friends, Daniel from the Roo Bus and Lindsey.

Lindsey from the other farm from here, from here, the other farm.

This is this is the other farm.

We've come for this holiday weekend just to hang out

and drink some beer and sit in the creek.

And Daniel, you're here.

And I understand Totem's got a lot of new things going on.

You want to talk about that for a minute? Yeah, we do.

I guess like one of the biggest things I can tell you is

we were pretty bummed that last year's scholarship class

didn't get to get a full Roo because everybody knows what happened.

So we extended the invitation for them to come back.

And we'll do that in addition to next year's class that will,

you know, kind of filter through and invite out.

So we'll have six people at Roo with us next year.

I'm kind of really looking forward to that. Awesome.

We've had a lot of good luck with that.

Like we've had some really good scholarship recipients

that have come out that may have not gotten the chance to come to Roo otherwise.

And it means a lot to me to be able to pass this on to the next generation.

Well, good. Well, plus your podcast, Storytime with the Roo Bus.

You're doing some upgrades and some expansion, right?

Yeah, we are.

You're kind of making the path here.

We decided we wanted to start doing video.

Charlotte taught me into it.

We are bringing in a lot of proceeds thanks to our Patreon.

So we wanted to upgrade and hopefully bring in some more revenue for Totem

because everything that we bring in on the Patreon goes directly to Totem.

It's bringing a lot of money so we can help out our scholarship recipients

and do a lot of other fun stuff.

So we're like, hey, we should probably take this more seriously.

So, yeah, we're doing video now.

Yeah, that's awesome.

And it's cool that you're bringing you're doing so well with the Patreon

and everybody's donating.

So we just recorded a little segment that's going to go on your show.

Is it? Oh, my God. Yeah.

With three of us. Yeah.

Go check out the real Roo Bus dot com and the Roo Bus Storytime

with the Roo Bus podcast if you want to check out more.

Yeah. Let's talk to Lindsey.

How are you feeling over there?

We drinking there, buddy.

I'm drinking garage beer.

Oh, wait. I thought you were joking.

It really is garage beer.

Yeah. The garage is always open.

So garage beers actually so inexpensive, almost the cheapest beer at the grocery store.

Yeah. Cheaper than Natty Light.

But actually, it's really good tasting beer.

And so I'm kind of addicted now to my garage.

But I'm good. I'm actually really good.

I'm happy. I got some good friends.

I am unplugging from from work for a couple of days.

And except, you know, I've got to work, Koozie.

Go figure. But no, no, life is good, brother.

Life is real good right now.

Yeah, same. I'm glad to come out here and unplug for this long weekend.

And we did do some work.

We helped you put up some boards and some plumbing in your bathhouse that you're building.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, I appreciate the help.

It's actually it's really fun

going out and just putting something together with a couple of friends.

And we're up there acting silly, making jokes about the boards and

laughing and having a good time.

We installed a certain feature on there. Yeah.

Some really, really awesome looking cedar boards in on the on the on the on the bathhouse.

And it's going to be a place where where you guys and my friends

and the close guys that we've met, close people that we've met with,

Bonnaroo who can come out here and we don't have to worry about a porta

potty or digging a hole.

That yeah, that's important. So.

Yeah, didn't have much else to say.

We're just having a good time.

We're going to go back and drink some more beer, I think.

And what are you drinking?

Well, I brought you boys some of this seven year Jim being over here.

I wanted to treat you. Oh, nice.

Got a little bit of a vanilla taste, which it seems sacrilegious

to bring that into Tennessee because that's a Kentucky product. Yeah.

Well, you know, we've got it's a fine American product.

It's still good in Tennessee.

OK, we just have better.

We have better things to offer.

Now, wait a minute, I want to talk with you guys about something

before we get out of here.

You both are going to the Caverns here in about a month, right? Yes.

Tell me a little bit about that.

Tell me on this, because I'm thinking about coming up for a day.

OK, so partly because Bonnarooo canceled out.

I needed a fall festival last year.

My fall festival was South Star in Huntsville,

which unfortunately got rain shortened.

If the rain shortens

Cave Fest, I'm going to be a really unhappy camper.

Well, it's in the cave. So I think you're OK.

But so Cave Fest is a it's so Cave Fest is going to be a bluegrass centric

music festival across two days at the Caverns in Pelham, Tennessee.

We'll be camping for a couple of days and.

Getting to see some great artists

Scott Miller is actually one of my favorites, Jim Lauderdale,

Leftover Salmon, Sam Bush.

So I'm looking forward to it because I think it's going to be really chill

vibe for me.

I love bluegrass, love country and Americana.

And so it fits right in my wheelhouse.

And you guys told me it's more of like a Billy String's bluegrass

other than like a grandpa bluegrass. It's yeah.

I think there's going to be what you would term as a grandpa bluegrass,

probably a couple of guys in overalls with a banjo's and guitars on the stage,

which is great. Yeah.

But I think there's also from listening to to to a playlist that I made

of top of all the artists and their top songs.

I think it's going to be that there's going to be some good Americana,

some rockish country.

Like I said, Scott Miller is is is someone I'm looking forward to seeing.

I've listened to Jim Lauderdale for many, many years, and he's a legend.

And I always try and go see a legend when I can.

I learned that lesson when I missed Paul McCartney at Bonnarooo.

Why you missed? No, no, not Paul McCartney.

I sorry. My apologies. When I missed

when I missed Tom Petty.

Oh, Tom. Oh, I did, too.

I mean, Charlotte, that's one of my biggest regrets.

And so because of that, I made sure to see

John Prine at Bonnarooo. Yeah, that was a must not miss.

So there's a John Prine cover band going to be here.

I'm looking forward to it.

It's going to be a good time.

And from what Russ has told me,

I'm going to get to see a bunch of my good friends.

And that, to me, is the best part about a music festival.

It doesn't take much to talk him into just taking the bus out to go camp out somewhere.

Oh, absolutely.

And no further than down the road that the Caverns is.

I mean, I passed it on the way here. It's so close.

And yeah, we're going to have a bunch of good friends.

The church boners are coming.

And I also wanted to mention, you know, because of Rue's cancellation,

you know, Live Nation got a lot of backlash for better or worse.

I don't know. But, you know, if you want to come out and support

an independent festival, small business,

locally owned, locally employed.

I mean, the Caverns is it.

And right now, tickets are only 99 bucks for the whole weekend,

for the whole weekend, and it includes camping.

I couldn't believe it. Pretty good. I had to buy it.

I bought the RV pass extra.

So I can bring my travel trailer because, you know, I'm a spoiled little brat.

But yeah, it's extremely affordable for a really good lineup.

And this is absolutely not a plug.

They didn't pay me squat for that.

No, I'm not getting paid at all.

But like you said, the tickets are reasonable.

Honestly, everything there, the food is reasonable.

The beer is reasonable.

They got a bunch of food trucks.

It's like the food is not just a booth with a tent.

It's actual local food trucks.

Yeah, it's all local.

They will sell you firewood and it's reasonable.

Ice bags of ice are, you know, pretty cheap.

It's a very affordable.

You want to buy your ticket right now, Dan?

Well, what I was thinking about is me and you went to one night of Pretty Lights

almost two years ago now.

And, you know, it's a very Wookiee crowd there.

And me and you were chilling like halfway back.

And I went to get some chili from like a local vendor.

I'm sitting there at this Wookiee show having some southern chili.

And I'm like, this is the best, man.

Oh, I was having a blast.

It was great. Yeah, we went to Pretty Lights.

It was like, it was early January, I think.

No, it was late December.

It was October, November, something like that.

It was cold because because I had on thermal thermal leggings.

It was cold.

And like three layers were the pants sweatshirt.

And I actually had my heavy parka because it was frost.

We were actually frosty by the time the show started.

We were also toasty by the time the show started.

That was great.

It was cold, but I had a blast.

It was fun because of the cool atmosphere for it.

So I'm really looking forward to that.

It's going to be my good fall festival.

Going to be relaxing.

And and like I said, I think I might have like a dozen friends there to hang out with.

That's the best part.

It really is. Yeah, for sure. Really.

All right. How are you feeling, Tago?

I'm feeling great.

I think we're going to go and drink some more beer, drink some more Jim Beam.

So go check out the real Roo Bus story time at the Roo Bus

if you want to hear more and check out what they're doing with the video and everything.

So, yeah, we'll see you next time.

All right. Send the other two boys my regards.

Yeah, I don't have a podcast and I never will.

You should.

I just want to hear you talk every week about like all of your crazy stuff.

Oh, this week I went and built a shitter at the farm.

Well, we did. We built a shitter at the farm this week.

Should leave it there.

All right. There you go.

That's a good place to leave it. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't build a shitter at the farm, but I had a good weekend.

Look like a comfortable little creek to chill in and drink.

I like the looks of that. It is.

The weather was great.

Yeah. Great company.

Great trip. So, yeah, you all seriously need to come out for a trip sometime.

If you can come to the other farm and definitely go to the cavern.

Obviously, we've given them a big plug, but we kind of like it.

Cave Fest, the 11th, I believe, 11th, 12th.

You know, and he made it.

I knew he was going with Tom Petty.

I knew that's what he was trying to pull because I missed that one, too.

That is my most regrettable.

Miss. Yeah, it's one of those probably.

I'll get it next time until there's not going to be a next time.

Now, daughter, daughter, Grace called and said, I got pit passes.

And I said, I'll be there.

And I didn't go anyway.

We could do a whole show on the great misses that we've all shows.

I've missed low the shows that I've missed.

We'll do that one of these days. That's for sure.

Next week, we're going to maybe I shouldn't say we don't know what's going to happen.

But if the plan is, we're going to talk to Brian about his trip to the post office,

which Russ is he's pins and needles.

Look at him. I'm fascinated. I can't wait.

I went 3000 miles to get a Starbucks coffee and go to a post office.

It was an incredible trip.

All right. Thanks, guys.