The Real Roo Bus Joins The What Podcast

So for the first time in the history of podcasting

Two Bonnarooo podcasts

Have come together to make history on the streets of Chattanooga, Tennessee

I'm Brad Steiner, that's Barry Courter

And that's the Real Roo Bus

Now, you might not be a

How does a bus talk?

How does an actual bus speak?

I speak on its behalf

Okay, that's nice

Even when it breaks down

Are you crying on the side of the road, too?

I mean, are you suggesting that we're like spiritually connected?

You might be, with the bus, that would be amazing

If you're spiritually connected with a bus, that would be amazing

Now that you mention that, I kind of wonder if it's like one of those Pixar cars

Like if it can talk

Oh my god, that'd be amazing

If it could, if it could

What would it actually sound like?

What would the bus's voice be like?

Would it be like Randy Newman singing a song?

Or

I imagine maybe like George Carlin

In the Cars movies

Really? George Carlin

Like an old hippie, like a hip-hop star

George Carlin

Like an old hippie?

Like Barry

Yes, Barry, you're now the official voice of the bus

Fair enough, I can do that

We can record it, when it pulls up, be my voice

Record me some phrases so I can use it like one of those old GPS's

Oh my god, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting

Oh my god, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting

Oh my god, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting

It's like every old man

Get off, get off

Well, it is a 30 year old bus, so that would make sense

Jesus, this is pretty exciting

I think Daniel and the whole family, the whole gaggle of

Roo Bus patrons

Have joined us in Chattanooga

For a podcast, now go around the whole thing

Did you bring your whole camp with you?

What happened here?

This is almost everybody, we have a few tag alongs

But this is the core Roo Bus

Crew, why don't you guys introduce yourselves

I'm Brooklyn

Look at the, there is Brooklyn, alright

I'm Sharla, I'm Chelsea

Wow, you have much more

Like a

Like me too, is all I say

There's way more females with you guys than ever in our camp site

It's a prettier group

Than we're used to

Wait, who are you? What is that voice?

I'm just some guy

I just showed up

Also from Camp Nut Butter

Is Bryan Stone

At the Stone On Air Podcast

Most pleasant to do podcast in the history of the world

In the history of podcast

Now, Daniel, where are you guys from?

We are all in Huntsville, Alabama

Actually just a little outside, in Madison, Alabama

If anybody knows where that is

And you guys are in Huntsville too, right?

I think it's funny you feel the need to clarify that

If anybody is from our area, they wouldn't know what I'm talking about

I mean if you want to get really specific, we're near Harvest, Alabama

How far outside is that?

Outside of Huntsville we're about

20 minute, half hour drive

That's nothing, alright

What kind of gas mileage does that bus get?

Actually for the size, that thing is, it's not bad

If I was to calculate it out

I think it would cost me maybe 60 bucks to get to Manchester and back from Huntsville

No kidding, what's the drive from there to Manchester?

How long is it?

Well, in a regular car, about an hour and a half

In the rew bus

About day, day and a half

Start on Monday

I was going to say about 9 and a half

Miles of the gallon maybe

So, as has been

As has been chronicled, last year we had

A little bit of an issue with it

Yeah, you almost didn't make it last year

Oh, we made it, it took a very long time, but we made it

Like 9 hours? Yeah, if it was running great

We could make it probably 2, 2 and a half hours

Thankfully though, knock on wood

It's running a little bit better now

I'm going to get a look taken at it after Christmas

Just to make sure, but I think we're good

Well, lucky for you, we've got a bus expert

With, at Russ with the bus

At Lord Taco

Here with his Volkswagen bus right behind us

He's actually a bus expert

He's literally been keeping this 76

Volkswagen Westfalia

On the air, or on the air

I'm on the air, on the road for

How long have you had it Russ?

20 years

That's older than some of your dates

Is it a diesel?

Ours is, big difference

So, this is our bus

You brought your bus, you literally brought

Your bus with you, you brought pieces of your bus

With you

So, we have a little miniature Hot Wheels

Version of the bus that our good friend Cassandra

Davis for Christmas last year

I'll take it if we can't take the whole thing

And I brought the dashboard

Of the bus, kind of, that's got our hand prints

On it, and in the same color

Paint as the rest of the bus

Now, whose hands are on the, what part of the bus

Is this, this is a giant, just like a generic

Piece of the bus

You just ripping things off of the bus and bringing it with you

Everywhere you go? It's only two screws man

I took that off this morning

That sits kind of below the

Wheel, and it kind of muffles the engine

That pokes out in the back, so

We don't have that, you know, breaking our air drums

Wow, and so you basically

Just take the bus around and just get people to sign it

Essentially, right? Well there's no way I could have

Driven it around in downtown Chattanooga, so that's the way

I'm bringing it here

I literally have nightmares about that sometimes

I'm not exaggerating, I'll have a bad dream

Where I'm driving the bus in the city and I'm like

Just freezing out with fear

Really? Is it that hard to drive? Oh my god

Kanye West just started

Jesus is king

One of those party

Beer things is going on

So what we're doing, we are literally outside

At a hotel in Chattanooga called The Moxie

Hashtag at the Moxie

In downtown Chattanooga

Literally recreating Camp Nut Butter

We recreated our campsite, and by the way

This is essentially what we would bring to Camp Nut Butter

We try to bring as many couches

And podcasting equipment

Our giant Bonnarooo heads

On a stick, our giant marquee

A very disheveled

Broken down piece of our marquee

But this is what you get when you get a Camp Nut Butter

With also 800 square feet of carpeting

Mailbox, which was a new addition last year

Has anyone brought anything to the mailbox?

I don't think so

Check it please, see if we got anything

If we get drugs again, I'm reporting them to the cops

Last year we got

What? Suckers

And a cigarette, we got one cigarette

A lot of jewelry

We got stickers

We were hoping for

Will you be

Will RooBus be the first entry

Into the mailbox

For I guess the 2020 season

Will you be the first entry into the mailbox

You put something in the mailbox for us

Absolutely, I got some stickers for you

And some other random things maybe

You go on your podcast

You basically, you talk Bonnarooo

But you do it in a story time fashion

You basically tell stories

About your Bonnarooo experiences

Yeah, so I wanted to leave

The news and such to the professionals

The two guys that are sitting in front of me

That's very loose

Way to use the word professional

I come down here and there's like a whole like outdoor studio

We're basically using an old microphone

From the rock band video games on my back porch

That's it, I promise

One of these days maybe I'll get professional

But yeah, I have to give credit to Sharla

Let's get her on the mic here in a minute

It was her idea, she came to me a couple of months ago

And she said one of her favorite aspects

Of Bonnarooo was all the crazy stories

The things that kind of crop up

And people retell year after year

And she thought it would be a good idea to kind of chronicle it

So I'm like, oh, let's do it in a podcast

So really, I mean I know I do a lot of the talking

But it was her baby

You want to tell us about it? Jane's her nickname by the way

I'm sure it was because of a story

That you always tell

Because I think everybody at camp

Especially at Bonnarooo has the story

That they tell

And it's the one they always come back to every year

It's somewhere like when dad reads the

Double Verse at Christmas

When I sang into the beer bottle during the Red Hot Chili Peppers

That Barry told me about

Brian, I know you want my first story

To be about you, but it's not

Oh, okay, sorry

Yes, I can still see that image though, Brian

Well, I'm absolutely a storyteller

At heart, and I know

All the good stories come out of Bonnarooo

And everybody has their Bonnarooo story

And not only that, but just

Year after year, there's all the

Good stories of Bonnarooo

I saw this awesome band

Here's my story about the pit

At Bonnarooo, but not only that

Here's my story about what happened

At my camp at Bonnarooo

Here's my funny story of how I set up my camp at Bonnarooo

But is it usually about camp or is it about an artist?

It's both, it's absolutely both

It's, you know, here's my

Funny story about when I stood in line for

Six hours to see my favorite artist

Here's my funny story about when I was

In line for 27 hours

And I got rerouted to the

Hillsboro Exit

That's not an exaggeration

It's really not an exaggeration

So everybody's got their Bonnarooo

Story, everybody's got their Bonnarooo stories

So, you know,

I thought it would be a great idea

To have people write in, have people

Tell on their social media, have people

Email us their Bonnarooo stories

And we could retell those on our

Podcast, and it's really never ending

Because year after year

People just have

Dozens, hundreds, thousands

Of their Bonnarooo stories

And it just goes on and on and on

And we could retell those on our

Podcast, so that was my idea

And, you know, last year

Daniel honestly took a lot

Of flack for starting

Bonnarooo rumors of artists

And I didn't want to do that this year

So I really wanted to take a different

Approach of what

The robust social media was

And I really wanted to be more that community

Effort, more that

Community focused goal

So I really wanted to bring together

People with their stories and their

Bonnarooo community experience

So I thought, what a great

Way to do this, by bringing together people

With their Bonnarooo stories

Again, so that was kind of my

Idea for the Podcast. So, you guys, why did you get

Flack about line of stuff?

When did that happen? What happened? I will be totally

Transparent, just by nature

Of having a big friendly blue bus

And, you know, making sure

That we're friends with all the rest

Of the community, yeah. Like, people come

Up to us sometimes, like, hey bro, I heard that

So-and-so is playing next year

So, like, I had two people tell me last year

On Good Faith that the Foo Fighters

Were going to play. It turns out that

Connections got crossed or whatever

And the Foo Fighters were playing a very

Close festival, but it was Pilgrimage, not

Bonnarooo. So I'm like, yeah, you know

I love playing that game, like, oh, who's

Playing next year? Yeah, you got one of those emails

That I get. They'll be in Tennessee

Sometime in the summer. Yeah. Sure. I did

Get Good Faith information that Fish

Was playing, like, October of the year

Before last. That was cool. That turned out to be

Accurate. The Foo Fighters, not so much.

So I'm like, you know what? I'm not playing this game

Anymore. The fun thing to me is, like, the community

Stuff. Well, see, that's exactly what Barry

And I talk about forever and ever and ever

And you guys know this too because you've been around

For so long, and of course,

You know, if you've been to Bonnarooo before

It has nothing really to do with

The lineup. It's fun and right about

Now is when we enjoy the lineup talk

The most, but it really has nothing to do

With the lineup. Well, let me jump in because

When you were talking, the fact that we are

Here in November

Talking about Bonnarooo

Is the thing that sort of stands out

To me. It's become

This almost year-round

Thing. You know, when we started

Talking about doing our podcast, we

Thought we would do it, what, for the three months leading

Up to it? Yeah, I actually told Barry, I said

I hope nobody listens to this

Yeah

And we thought, you know, Sunday when it ends

We'll maybe do a Monday the day

After, and then that's it, you know, shut it

Down till

What, the lineup the next year

And we've

Done, I mean, it's almost year-round

We haven't done so many this year

After, but people like you

The Bonnarooian,

Bonnaroozter, I mean

It's this year-round thing

Now, right? I promise you that there

Isn't anybody doing a Coachella

Podcast right now

Well, we thought about it, they yelled at us

They didn't want us to do that

Yeah, we've tried to incorporate other

Festivals, they get very

Very touchy, because

The second that you say, yeah, well it's a

Bonnarooian podcast, and we talk about other stuff

But, we'd like you to

Not talk about Bonnarooian, or call

It a Bonnarooian podcast, or we want you

To change the name, we want you to

Tell anybody who that is, Hangout Festival

Oh, do you want to talk about that?

We'll edit that out

By the way, look at these guys

Welcome back, guys, look at these guys

So clean, you guys look so

Strange when you're showered

And adorable

Now, the

Remind me, is the beer, we met them at

The beer exchange, right? Beer exchange

Which was massive, what a great time

I was stunned as to how good that beer exchange

Was, if they do it, now what pod

Is that in?

It's in seven?

Is it changes every year, right?

Kevin from Camp

Rederoo, ladies and gentlemen

Hey guys, what's up?

I feel a lot cleaner

Since the last time I've seen you guys

That was a great time

Yeah, it's a great time

I'll tell you how dirty we

Were, Barry's hair

Wasn't gray

It was a sort of sandy, dusty

Color

It's funny because we were looking over some of the pictures

On the way over here from our podcast

And we were in that tent

And it's all sweaty and dirty

And then, you're like

We're going to go meet up with the family

We see a little bit of each other

Throughout the years and stuff like that

During the Bonnarooo offseason

When you see each other

Your first reaction is always that

Wow, you're so much cleaner now

It was fun to see those pictures

Interesting when you say the first reaction

When I see a Bonnarooo person

A Bonnarooian

In the wild

Outside of Bonnarooo, the first thing I say

It just gives me a big smile

And I just want to hug somebody

Because no other time in my life do I really like anyone

But when I

See a Bonnarooo person, I'm like, oh just come here

Just come here

I think we talked about this a little bit last time

During our podcast, but

The uniqueness about Camp Rederoo

And our family that we have is

We're so spread out through the US

That a lot of us

Travel throughout the year to visit each other

We've spent like friends giving together

Mitchell usually throws a big birthday bash

That we go to when we run out

When you met Mitch though, you guys had known each other before though

No, we didn't know each other before

No shit, so you guys met through Bonnarooo

Yeah, so funny enough

So how I came to Bonnarooo

Was through a

Camp Rederoo member

Who was a part of the original

2012

And we went to high school together

And so I went in 2015

Was my first year and then

You just instantly click

And I met Mitchell that first year and I think

We went to his birthday party

That October

And then we've almost been in separate

When we see each other literally year by year

I moved out to Salt Lake City

Was out there with, I actually moved to Salt Lake City

For groups

Or a group of individuals that are part of Camp Rederoo

Like I picked that city

My work gave me the opportunity to go to Salt Lake City

Or Colorado and I picked Salt Lake City

Because I knew people in that city

So it really does become a big part of our lives

That's amazing

Kyle

Your friend Kyle

Moved to

What, Murfreesboro? I listened to your podcast

The other day

Yeah, Kyle is a good buddy

He runs the Twitter account Bonnaroovian

And he is the kindest

Like, general soul that you'll ever meet

I'm sorry, I don't work in radio

He's the kindest soul that you'll ever meet

No, you're good, man, you're good, go, go, go

He embodies the spirit of like the Bonnaroo Code

He is always like kind

And like just generally wants to hang out or whatever

And he has done a good job

To kind of keep the spirit of

The community going year round

Yeah, he's one of those guys

He's all in

I mean to the point of moving, he was from what, New Jersey?

I think so, yeah

He's at Murfreesboro now

He's in school

Wait, did he move to Murfreesboro for Bonnaroo?

In part

That's what he said

Dude is a class act

I could have rented him a room at my house if he needed it

He didn't have to do all that

I can give you so many people like that

That embody the community spirit year round

Like, one of our good buddies is Ron

The guy that's kind of the brain child of the Rue shoot

Celia

Is over Rue Fitness

There's so many people that kind of have their area

For like their specialty area

Of Bonnaroo, right?

And we were talking a little bit before we started recording

Every year we joke around about who's headlining

Next year, but honestly

It's just a soundtrack to a great weekend with my good friends

That I see once or twice a year

Hey Daniel, can I ask you, I'm sorry to interrupt

You brought up Rue Shoot

I am so fascinated

By this Rue Shoot and how they

Coordinate this every year and get this

Massive

Whatever the hell it is

Yeah, because they don't just do it at Bonnaroo, they do it at other places

Yeah, they take it all the way. How do they coordinate

Doing this and getting this inside the grounds

And everybody gets underneath

And it's

It's adding a whole other podcast in itself maybe?

Yes, either us or you guys should have

Them on to tell their story. Can you do it in two sentences

Real quick? Oh man, I don't want

To speak for them, but basically

They had some run ins with security

This past year? Yeah, shocking news

A massive

Parachute in there, but

No, I just like wearing a giant cape

I'm just happy to see you

Really, you should have them on or I should get him on

They have kind of

Transitioned to being the parachute people

Because they're going to so many different

Festivals and they do such a wonderful job

To spread like positive

Messages about mental health awareness

Oh no, nothing that I could have

Ever said was anything other than a positive

Message what they're doing. I just don't know how they get that damn thing

Into Centauru every year

And I love it. It's not easy I hear

Sorry to take over your show

There was this moment in my life when

I would buy anything that I saw

That was really clever on TV

And I bought this

Thing that wrapped around my body

And eventually was like

This pouch that you filled with

Beer and they called it the beer

Belly and you basically just

Walked around and you just looked like a big fat

Guy, but yet you had

Sloshing around beer in your stomach

And it had a tube that you could suck the beer out of

That's essentially how they get

The shoot in. They just shove it into

Their stomach and they just act like a big fat guy

Where'd you go with this, Brad?

I'm not sure where that was going

I don't want to sink it down my pants, but

I guess for ladies I've seen that there's a bra that does that

Nowadays. Really?

They have bracelets

Yeah, they have bracelets that you can put

What's a wine bracelet?

Now Mitch says there's a wine bracelet

What is that?

It's just jewelry that was

And you fill it with wine

Sweet sweet hooch

Sweet sweet hooch

I dated her once

That's a good band name

You did not date her once

Let's be honest

Okay, so

We've talked about Bonnarooo

And how your podcast

Can we talk about specifically

Since I've got a group of

Bonnarooo people who are probably

Very well into the Bonnarooo

Culture and conversations happening

Right now. And since this podcast is

Happening in November

I really would like to address

A couple of things

Mock schedules

Now there's a

Person here, anybody here

Has actually made a mock schedule

Raise your hand

You guys made a mock schedule?

I was going to say I saw the real

Mock schedule

I kind of liked it by the way

Tell me how you made your

Mock schedule

Tell me what went into it

And then give me what you

Were trying to accomplish with your

Mock schedule

I made one that was more or less a joke

That was just in support of who we all

Want to see at some point, Miss Dolly

So it was a wish list

Well that one, if she could play three sets

That'd be amazing

Availability of artists for

2020 from what I saw

You knew that they were potentially

Available at that time

You weren't just saying I want to see the Rolling Stones

You were saying these potential

Artists can be available

In the summer of 2020

Which I think is a fun way to look

That's what we do, we speculate all year long

It's fun

You can look at who AC is booking

Who they have playing around that time

Who is not scheduled to play

In Nashville, and you can kind of put two and two together

And another example is like

What's a big artist that is touring

That has played other festivals that hasn't played

Bonnarooo recently

So Tame Impala is one that makes perfect sense

Well that's Brad Brand

Here's what I'd say

Before we get into what Mock schedules

Make sense or what don't make sense

I need to implore anybody that's actually

Listening to this, that's part of the Bonnarooo

Culture, if you're on Reddit

If you're not, it doesn't matter

If you're making Mock schedules

I really think it does a disservice

To Bonnarooo

I think that Mock schedules are a really, really

Bad thing if you do not specifically

Say this is a wish list

And I'm saying it for a reason

Expectations get completely

Out of

They get blown out of the water

Expectations do not get put back on

To Earth, and then when we get

The line up, it drops and we're like

Well this sucks

Well this person

I thought we were having

Miley into Rihanna, into the

Foo Fighters, into the Rolling Stones

I thought they were all, let me do a thing

So I did a little bit of math and I called

Some people in the industries that got

The numbers

I found a Mock line up on Reddit

I don't know who made it, I really don't know who made it

And I'm going to go through one day of the Mock line up

Okay

I'm not going to read the whole thing that they did on a Saturday

Because it was a random Saturday

Against the Machine, Vampire Weekend

Kid Cudi, My Chemical

Romance, Lizzo, Brittany Howard

The High Women, Danny Brown

Local Natives, Perfume Genius

That's an entire festival

Guys, like that's an entire weekend

Right? Do you know how much

Just that day

Costs? 5.5

Million dollars

5.5 million dollars in one day

They do not have a budget for 5.5 million

Dollars, and I'm going to go you one step better

If you put My Chemical Romance

On a Mock schedule

I want you to know that it is going to

Cost you 1.5 million dollars to put

My Chemical Romance on the festival line up

What did

Cardi B get last year? And what was

Her placement on the poster?

What was she, 5?

Was she on the top line or the second line?

Okay, well Cardi B got

$400,000 last year

Do you think that they're going to sell

Tickets putting My Chemical Romance at

$4.5 million on that line up's top line?

You think they're going to sell any tickets that way?

I don't think so

So, again, these Mock line ups

They're fun, they're really fun

But please, I hope there's not a human being

Ever taking them seriously

I hope that there is somebody saying to them

This is just for fun, this is just

Because by the way, this Mock line up that I saw

It was great, but it also had

The next day, Rihanna, Dolly

Farton, Damon Fowler

Oyster ahead and run the jewels

And they're $4 million

So I'll tell you one reason I think people do that

Is we're able to look at past line ups with

Rose colored glasses

If you look at like 13, 14, 15

You see a lot of bands that weren't as expensive

Back in that day

And you think, oh, well they can book acts like that again

No they can't

That's exactly right

Whoever on Reddit is posting

These snapshots back to the schedule

Like Saturdays of 2012

Or whatever

And you can go down and see like the national

On like

The who's stage

You're not getting that anymore

That's the whole point of kind of what

You and I have been talking about for a year

Is sort of this, the reality of this

How it works, how these festivals work

The thinking behind it

We've had Jeff Quay are on a couple of times

And he's been so insightful

Sort of giving us this

Insight on how it actually

Works, you know

I think your point is right

But it is a wish list

We all have our wish list

And I think you hit it right on the head

We don't think about

What they cost this year

You know? It is a great point

Danny makes a great point because in 2009

And I posted this on Twitter earlier

2009

We all, every one of us

I don't care how many people say that they did

They missed Adele

Adele was on the line up in 2009

And I read the Rolling Stone article earlier today

To a quote unquote

Smallest crowd

That's heartbreaking

And if you put Adele on the line up right now

She's going to cost you about 2.7 million dollars

So I'll give you a similar

Story, since that's kind of our deal

Storytelling, we went to go see Post Malone in 2016

There wasn't much

Of anybody there

And it was a bad show

He was also, Les if you face tattoos by the way too

Yeah

It was a bad show because basically every hip hop show is terrible

No doubt about that

I'm not kidding

A similar story I found out just because of YouTube

We like watching Bonnarooo videos

Walk the Moon literally won a contest

To show up in 2012

Or 2013

They had a music video where he enlisted his

Grandpa, the lead singer

And was like, we just want to go to Bonnarooo

Anybody that's on the who stage

I'm going to rip the bandaid off

And just say it

If you look behind the curtain

Anybody that plays on the who stage

Plays for free

And I don't really like saying that

And the other part that I've got to make sure

That I've talked to somebody about

But they even have to bring their own gear

They have to bring their own gear

And they have to pay for

Anybody that's traveling there

Which really sort of stinks

I've got to figure out

We can talk to Quaeyar about it

We can talk to somebody at Bonnarooo about it

For a pay to play

On the who stage

And especially the spots that mean so much

To people like the Black Keys

The Black Keys would not be who they are

I don't think

If not for the who stage in 2007

Well let's be clear

We don't know that they're not paid

They might be paid something

But they have to pick up a bunch of the expense

They would have had to pay their

They might have got a couple hundred dollars

As a fee, but the expense of travel

Was way too much for them to cover

So I can attest to this a little

Our mutual friends, repeat repeat

Played the who stage two years ago

They played the who stage a couple of days

After they played the bus for us

And we helped them set up when they came in

And it very much was

A DIY thing for them

They came in their van and a trailer

And that was it, they had to do everything themselves

Not just for us, but for the who stage too

Yeah, it is a weird

It's a tough thing, but when you go to the

Who stage, when you go through the list

Of people who were there, and back to your

I think it was a really really good point

The people that you

That are there and you look back in the past

And there's five years ago, oh my god

The national played

The smallest stage at Bonnarooo

If you had to find your biggest

Miss

If you had your biggest Bonnarooo miss, who would it be?

Like how do you mean?

The show you didn't go to

Matt and Kim

It was this tent

Right, it was this tent

And it was a Thursday

Or Friday, it was midday too

I remember being very very hot

They do a great show

It's a very lively

And he was out in the crowd

Or she was out in the crowd playing the drums

Carrying the drums

Biggest miss, Daniel, who do you got?

The one that immediately comes to mind

I think was 2015

I missed Tycho, is one of my favorite

I think was 2015's

The iconic acts, they played a late night show

I was just looking at the schedule the other day

And I think I must've just crashed that night

I know Barry's

Tom Petty

Do you know why he's Tom Petty?

I know exactly why he's Tom Petty

My daughter called

At two in the afternoon

And said I got us in the pit, you wanna go?

And I said yep, and then I sat in the chair

And I said

I gotta go home, I'm done

He sat in a chair

That is why you missed a show

Of an artist who you'll never see ever again

I sat in a chair

Well I don't really have a story for myself

But my best friend, Amanda

So she went when the Beastie Boys played

Except she fell asleep

Just fell asleep

Fell asleep with the Beastie Boys?

Yep, fell asleep and just missed it

They would be second or third

I saw that show, but I didn't know

I didn't know that they were going to

Third, I saw that show, but I

Wasn't really into it

I didn't know them like I do now

You know what I mean? I have a bunch of those

The My Morning Jacket

Who I now adore

The biggest problem to Barry's weekend

Is a little thing called a chair

His entire

Weekend gets thrown off because of a chair

It's partly true

The dad sits at camp and just wants all the kids to come home safely

He will miss more shows

So he's just sitting around at camp

Under a blanket

Curled up, all like this

Are the kids home? Is everybody here?

I put that to bed last year with

Gucci Mane at 4.30

In the morning when we were dancing

You were bitching about your lower back the whole time

No I wasn't either because I didn't feel

A lot of pain at that point

It was a good night

What about you Brad, what did you miss?

I have two that are very very embarrassing

First off, I'm really upset that I missed King Princess

Last year, considering how much I love

This album now

Brooklyn went to see that show, can you tell us about it?

It was fun

A 45 year old woman, I'm assuming

Flashed her boobs

At King Princess

It was just like a

Real rainbow

Party

There was pride stickers

Going around, it was so wonderful

So

And I hate telling the story

But when I was

Before I do what I do now

Which is live in the top 40 world

I had to run a rock station

And believe me, this rock station sucked

There was nothing that

Made any sense about it

But as a guy

Who thought that he knew what he was doing

For a long time

Me

I thought that I was

I thought I had my finger on the pulse

2010

I look at the line up and I see this band called

LCD Sound System and I don't give a damn

I don't know who they are

I don't care

And then I started listening to them a few months later

And I was like

Oh my god, this band's amazing

I gotta see them

I go online and I find out where they're playing next

It's Madison Square Garden, it's their breakup show

I totally missed

LCD Sound System for a decade

And I blew it

Because they were on the

2009 or 2010 line up

I didn't even sniff it

Didn't care, didn't want it

Had no interest in being there

I missed LCD Sound System

So when they came back in the year that we all talk about

Being the most embarrassing line up

And

Crowd in Bonnarooo history

I look back at that as my favorite Bonnarooo

Because I got to be there with literally

No one else

Can I interrupt the what podcast

And the real Roo Bus podcast

It hasn't stopped you yet

Didn't Paul McCartney

Play in 2013?

Yeah I didn't

You didn't go

You have to walk away in shame right now

Bye

I was there

Why did we let him in?

Why did we let him talk?

I'm just trying to clarify

The reason why Bryan Stone lives in infamy

And kept nut butter is because he showed up one time

And it happened to be the Friday night after

McCartney

And he was on Cloud 9

Every one of us were losing our minds

And he looked at us like

Overrated

I hated the show

It was stupid

It was every other show you've ever seen of Paul McCartney

He played the same show in Memphis the next week

We looked at Brian and we said

Brian did you watch it?

Can you believe he played live and let die?

He played live and let die

I said Brian do you see the show?

Nope I said a camp

To be fair our camp is about 100 yards from the stage

So yeah I heard it

He played live and let die can y'all believe it?

So it was that

And then 2009 Al Green

I missed Al Green

Because I decided to

Chase a girl down

The path and we decided to go see

Ani DeFranco

Instead of Al Green

Who no longer

I love you more now

Than I've ever loved you before

I love Al Green

Because I chose Ani DeFranco

So I got a quick story to tell you about LCD Sound System

I already went through this story on our podcast

A couple weeks ago that was my favorite year

Of all time I know that the crowd sucked

That year but it made for such a good

Vibe and it was easy to get around like me and my buddy Brandon

Went up front

That LCD Sound Show

Was amazing

Now my follow up story to that was

About 2 or 3 years later we go to

The Voodoo Festival in New Orleans

Pretty good city festival we had a good time

It was a good headliners that year it was LCD Sound System

The Killers and The Food Fighters

We go walking around in the French quarter

The next day after LCD

Sound System Show just looking for a place to eat

Or whatever I walk right by

James Murphy who's taking a stroll through there

And I pass him and I'm like

I ask Sharala and them I'm like should I go

Say something oh my god I don't want to be like a dork or whatever

But I was like you know what I'm never going to get

This opportunity again I'm going to go say something

I went up next to him I was keeping

It cool at first I was like oh hey James

I want you to know that was a great show last night man

That was really good he was like oh I appreciate it

And I was like dude I was at your show at Bonnarooo like 3 years ago

I was having such an awesome time

He was like oh that's your job man

Yeah it opened up the sieve

As soon as you turn the water on everything

Came out right

That's a whole lot better than good work

Oh I knew that was going to come up

I knew you were going to say that

So I've told this story before

It breaks my heart to tell it

But it is my Bonnarooo story

That you guys talk about all the time

It's Billy Joel

It's Sunday night

And I'm dying to get out of there before Billy Joel

I just can't I can't do it I can't do it

And Spoon happened right before them

On the What Stage

And that's when I left and I could have been on the stage with you guys

Thanks Brian that mattered a lot to the story

Go ahead Brad

So

We got lucky and we were standing on stage

For Spoon and behind the What Stage

There's this very very long

Ramp that takes you back into artist

I mean this ramp might be

150 yards it's really really long

And

There's one way down and then there's a

Thing that separates you and then

You come up there's nobody coming up

The stage this is after Spoon Spoon's done Billy Joel's next

A whole crowd

Of people are walking down the ramp

One figure

Just keeps getting closer and closer to us

As it comes up the ramp

One figure closer and closer

Closer as it gets closer

I look at my buddy Nick and Hillary

That's Billy Joel

Billy Joel's walking up the ramp

Nobody's talking to Billy Joel

Nobody's stopping him

Nobody's saying hello so

I said screw it and I stopped Billy Joel

I was like Billy Joel

Great work

And he said

Thanks

And walked straight past me

It was in that moment I realized

I've got nothing to say to Billy Joel

I've got no conversation

You're not not

You're the piano man I've got Christy Brinkley

I've got no conversation for Billy Joel

Other than

Great work

So you guys get to live in Valhalla for like

The Bonnaroo weekend back there where you are more likely

We don't like talking about it because somebody's going to

Pick it and riot us

You guys are media everybody's going to put two and two together

But you get to live back there where you're more likely

To run into artists so don't you have like

A bullet point or two in mind for your favorite ones

That you might run into

His point is he doesn't like Billy Joel

I think

It's not that I don't like Billy Joel it was fine

He's a fellow Met fan but I love him but I don't

Have anything to say to him

You had your chance

But Dua Lipa you were on

Cloud 9

We did more than talk

So I will say

This person is going to remain nameless

But we did have a band stop by

And sit down with Camp Nut Butter

And decide

That year to tell me

Who is the biggest Alabama Shakes fan on the planet

How much the Alabama Shakes sucked

And how much they were overrated

And how irritated he was

About Alabama Shakes

Name them

Any attention what you want

That they should deserve

I cannot because they've

Been very very good to me

Since then

It's an interesting

We talked before we went on air

About the different experiences

We are definitely

We come at it

A different way we're in

The IP area backstage I guess

You said you didn't know if you'd want to be in the trees

Where we are

And I can tell you

Four years ago we would never

Have considered even going out into

General camping

Oh no

That was not happening

No but now with all of the changes

The experiences and all of that

Once we started doing this

I think we talked about it several times

On the podcast

It sounds like a lot of fun

It feels like and this is a credit

To the people who put this on

They have created an event

In an

World for

General admission that is

Better than anything that you can get anywhere

Else in the festival and if I

Headed in me to deal with

Bugs, heat,

People, germs

Whatever

We've never seen a bug

Kevin's brother does that

Kevin's brother sprays for the bug

All these new people you don't know Brad as well as we do

But let them continue

I'm too neurotic to live out there

I can't do it

The only way

I can do it is in the creature comforts

Of being tucked away in a

World that is all to our own

But with that being said

It is really phenomenal out there

And the times that I've spent

I didn't want to leave

Now granted I did

But he didn't want to

He didn't want to until he did

Barry we were talking about this earlier

The way that the festival world

Has gotten in the past couple years

It's tougher to book good acts right

It's tougher to have a line

Up that's that much

More festivals, more demand

But AC has done a very good job

To realize that their strength is

In the camps and the community

They've built those new barns

And they've had really cool people like the house

Of yes out of New York come down

And do really cool stuff

Yeah can you tell us real quick about that

Chelsea that was one of your favorite things right

Yeah I had this whole like

New Orleans parade

At the house of yes but it was like all

Just like rainbows and like

The band was playing I don't know it was really cool

Pride parade Yeah it was awesome

No is it the same parade that used to happen

10 years ago 15 years ago that used to go

Through the festival they just move it to

The house of yes I think they move it around

I mean it's still sort of the house of yes

And then I guess like this big kind of party

Type thing then they just kind of just moved

It around everywhere so I don't know it was fun

Now because it seems like a natural segue

But Jeff

Quayar I had reached out to him

A week ago to see if he had some

News that we could maybe announce

For this podcast

They've been so good to us

And so helpful

And he called this morning actually

And it's not you know I knew

He wasn't going to give us an artist

Or anything like that

But he said to your

Point and to what we've been talking about

Every year they address something

You know they've planted trees

They've planted grass they've redone

The added the bathrooms

And they when the festival

Ends they all gather and they think

What do we need to fix and this year he told

Me today that the

The parking or the

Traffic not

From the freeway but once you get

Past the sort of security

How do they get you to

Your campsite is their focus

And I actually had asked him I said

Is the delay I figured it was the security

And he said no that's really not

It they can add lanes

The issue is there's

88 camping there's VIP

Camping there's group camping

But everybody comes in

You know in the line and then it's

How they filter them out so

I mean to me

It's one of those things

It doesn't sound sexy

But if you're sitting there in that car

It's needed exactly

Is it needed because you have to explain to me

How bad it is because I don't

Know is that an actual

Issue yes it definitely was

A big issue this past year there

Was a huge line of people

Back to 80,000 people yeah for one thing

Well there was a ton of people that were backed

Up on the interstate this past year

And we spoke to people who dropped by the

Bus to come speak to us that said they

Waited more than six seven hours

That had been unheard of for many years

Now

Before we had the bus we would drive in and it would take

Like an hour or two at most but we talked to a lot

Of folks that got frustrated beyond

Belief this past year so for Jeff to say

That that's awesome I think that is one of the biggest

Needs yeah and we look Mitchell's

Here I think he's got a word has something to add

So we have a contingency

That comes from Chicago each year

And Kerry arrived

At the gate at the gate

To get in line at

11 15 11 20

And she finally got to us

At around 9 30 a.m.

That was

Thursday Friday morning that was

That happened this year at Bonnarooo

Because the line was that intense

Ten hours roughly

And now to go

400 yards well

I'm not sure how long the

Line was because you know it stacks

Up out there on the interstate

But she got in line at around

11 15 because we saw it in the group chat

And then it was just a long

List of extremities

That she screamed about yeah so this

Is exactly what

Rightfully so if I had a

Group of women that screamed at my extremities

If I can't

Understand these guys know

Much better than I do you fill out a form

At the end of the year right

You do what is your would you like

What you do not like yeah

What are the survey yeah they

Can do so many surveys right but

How do they actually know these things

Are problems that's what I like to talk

Jeff about if we had Jeff

Or somebody and they also we

Know because they do our moon river here

And some and

Forecastle this is what they do

Those guys

Are walking around noticing

Where the lines are

Where the bottlenecks are the problems

Are there's only so many

Things that they can address like you just

Said it you know each year

But

This is this one has jumped

To the top of the line I guess so

If there's a thing that I've learned how much I love

About Bonnarooo

And Festival Life to begin with

Just overall when we

Started doing this I didn't know how much I loved

Infrastructure as much as I love it

It is so fascinating to

Me how they can find a problem identify

It and then figure it

Out either on the fly or then

The next year and so what I'd love to

Talk to Jeff or insert person here from

From whoever is working the infrastructure part

Of it I'd love to know when they identified

A problem how they found it and how are

They then going to fix it that is fascinating

To me so yeah that's the I think that's

The reason I brought it up because it's that level

Of detail that makes us all

Like this festival so much

In that vein and I am very glad to hear

That Jeff is making that priority

In that vein one of the things probably

The top thing that I would say is

The biggest room for improvement

And I love Bonnaroo I'm critiquing it

Because I love it but the biggest thing I could

Say that needs improvement is

The integration with folks

Like Kevin from Camp Red Roo with

Supergroup with Roo Shoot

We talked a little bit about the issues that they had

Getting the shoot through security

We've been thinking about it

And through the interaction

That we have literally every day

Sometimes with the general community

The folks that keep coming back and back

We're keeping the conversation going

Probably more so maybe even better

In some cases than their official channels do

We would love to have better

Integration with them to

Work with them on our events we hosted

Repeat Repeat two years ago the folks

With Red Roo are having literally

A thousand or more come in for the

Beer exchange and

We understand AC has a ton of things

They're working on Moon River here they're doing

That festival at the horse track

In Kentucky and things like that

We realize that they have limited resources

But just having a line to talk with them

So we can have infrastructure to support what we're doing

I think that is probably

The biggest improvement because as I said before

It's not necessarily the line up

That keeps us coming back I'm coming back to hang

With Kevin I'm coming back to hang with Mitchell it's the

Community that's the biggest aspect. Well they're so dreamy

Look at them. Yeah. Yeah so one of the

You know one of the things that I

Wanted to just interject and again this is

Not a complaint towards Bonnarooo

Because you know they do put on this and they do

It really well but you know over the years

As I've had to wait in line

And then there's been times where I've got to get in early

With Bonnarooo's blessing to allow us

In early but you know we

We got tracked by the

Local you know they had the

Local PD get out that are directing traffic

So it's like their mission doesn't get

All the time

Communicated to those that are locally helping

So you know that seems to be some of the problem

And again this is not bashing them but you know

We've made it all the way to the

We got told to go to the East

Toll booth and then when we got

To the East toll booth we were like oh you

Got to get back in line so then we got back in line

For another couple hours to get all the way back

To the West toll booth so like Daniel was

Saying you know with some of these groups and stuff like that

One of the biggest things that

It's good to hear that they're going to

To be really focusing on that but you know

Maybe have you know additional

You can't cut down gates to probably

Make more entries but you know make

Make ones where if you're going to be in

This side of the

Campgrounds you're going to enter this gate if you're going to enter on this side of the campgrounds

That would just make so much

More sense and I mean I know they do have

A few other gates to do that so

You know I think it's just that confusion

Where you know maybe it's the local

Help that's pushing people over but

You know I think just open it up

And say it okay you know if you come

To this side you're going to get assigned to this side of the campgrounds

If you're coming in this side go to this side of the campgrounds

And then maybe it would

Tool up that you know you know

Traffic once you get past the security

Yeah that was my understanding was as

He said there's still going to be delays they're still going to have to go through security

And all that but

Figuring out a way you know

If you're ADA camping

Or you're group camping

To better filter it through so

It goes a little bit quicker so

I mean to me

Like I said it's as we've talked

About so many times

All the little things add up to your overall

Experience

My bet is that the 12 hour

Person the person that we

Didn't think about that the rest of the weekend

My bet is

It didn't even occur

I don't know man that's a long time

I don't know I heard people pretty salty and that's why they

Left early on Sundays because they were just

They did not want to get stuck in the

Have you had a year speaking of stories have you had a

Year where you just said screw it I gotta get

Out of here you know the last

Year when it rained

When it stormed

In 2018 I'm

The one that I will I was in the military

I've been out there I've been in rain

Sleet snow about just about

Everything you get I mean the desert in Iraq

In the summertime 125

Degree heat I've been

Through it all but is it as bad

As me wearing two pair of pants right now

I prepared for a much colder

Day I'm wearing two pair of underwear but

Being waterlogged you know

It raining what overnight Saturday

Night into Sunday morning and just being waterlogged

We stuck it out

Throughout the day and then when it started storming

And getting really windy again that evening

Thankfully my brother does live five minutes

Down the road from Bonnarooo and we were like you know what

We're packing up and we're

Just going to go to the house because you know

There's just so much that you can do in

Rain and we knew that time of the day was this

This was after the headliners

On Saturday night so we didn't stick out

The party we usually have because on Sunday

Night we usually try to have kind of a blow

Out bash you know it's like that

Big send off in Camp Ritteroo because you know

You're not going to see your friends again for another year

And we just couldn't do it

There's a small group of us were like

You know what we're going to go to the hot shower

And get the hot shower early

I've told many many people I can handle the heat

The rain at Bonnarooo is the game changer

Because you can't get away from it

You take all that into your tent

With you and your clothes and yeah

That's the one I worry about

No I would never be able to handle

Mud and rain oh no that would kill me

Here's my problem with mud

Sometimes it might be shit

So

I don't really know the difference sometimes

No I've never bailed out at Bonnarooo

But my first and second year

I just did not know what I was

Doing and I left on Sunday

And it wasn't because I was tired of Bonnarooo or anything

I just literally did not know what I was

Doing just literally like was

A newbie and I was like oh well oh yeah

We skipped Tom Petty the first year

Yeah the first year I was at Bonnarooo

I skipped Tom Petty just because I honestly

Did not know what I was doing

No I love Tom Petty it was a mistake

Oh yeah I know that now

But I was just like oh yeah I need to get home

I also really enjoyed how during the rain

Especially you know we're talking about

The rain in 2018 it was like

The ditches

That they just put hay on top of

And the hay just floats on the water

So it creates the illusion that there's actually

Hard ground and just watching people go

See y'all I mean

My first one was 15

Years ago or so

What they have done to that site

To fix stuff like that

The one year I went

The rain created little

Riverlets yeah in between the what

And center and then as every

As 80,000 people walked

Through it over time

This little two foot became

18 foot became Shrek

Swamp yeah and then you couldn't walk between

Cars I mean it's just so

But like and

I love you guys

But I can hear all of you

And I know that none of you

Went to Bonnarooo before 2008

Nope and the rain

The rainstorm of I think

2003 or 2004 or something like

That was damn near the worst thing that's ever

Happened to my life and

I will never

Forget and again this is one

Of my stories I tell at camp every year

The first year I went to Bonnarooo

I screwed everything up

I went to the wrong entrance

I was stuck out into general

Admission and I had no idea what I

Was doing I didn't know what camping was

I mean if I'm neurotic now

Imagine you know 22

Year old me I had no idea

What was happening

We got there we were miserable

Immediately we were so irritated

By that night the rain

Just hammered us

And the rain what year was it Nate

That the rain was so it was it was

The year of Matthews and friends or something

2004 it was the worst

Rainstorm I have ever been in my life

To the point where I literally

Looked next to me and saw a woman

Defocating

Into a puddle

This is why I was like I can't do

Mud I don't know the difference

It was

The worst I've ever and I said

To myself I'm never coming back

This place is disgusting

I don't want to see these people anymore

This is the opening scene of lean on me

Where the principals get his head slammed

Into the wall

I was never coming to

And so the guy that I was with he

Drove the car so fast while

Dead and friends were on I felt as though

We were running over tents

And what happened karma

Hit us we got stuck in a mud

Puddle 20 yards away

From the exit 20 yards to

Freedom I could get the hell out of this

Hell hole that was Bonnarooo

20 yards and we got stuck there

We fell asleep in the car I was

In the passenger seat and

I woke up to this brrrr

Brrrrrrr

Sound and it was a kid

From Manchester

In a 4x4 pulling people

Out of the mud

I mean we were when we got out of the car

I'm not kidding

Our half of

The wheel was under mud

Half of the wheel it was that dug in

There was like you paid the kid $20

He pulled you out I've never been so

Happy to get out of a place in my life and I

Swore on that day I would never

Ever ever

Walk back into Bonnarooo

And now I host a podcast about Bonnarooo

I think my second year it rained

And I was in a pup tent and

I had an air mattress that

Leaked and it was

Stundering and lightning and storming and

I remember looking at the top of my tent thinking

I can't go anywhere I'm either

Going to die or I'm not

This isn't the Titanic Barry you're overstating

No I'm going to get hit by lightning

I was convinced lightning was just

And then I woke up in a puddle because

My air mattress lost all the air

And the tent leaked

Like yeah why am I doing this

I'm like you this is awful

It felt miserable there are times in Bonnarooo

Where you're like this is the worst place

In America why am I here

My first campsite I

Had the foresight for some reason

To throw cheap saw horses

And a 2x4 piece of plywood

In my truck yeah this is why he's my

Dad because he comes over and builds

Things like this at my house that became

My table but I didn't think of shade

So I happened to have my

Umbrella you know which is always in the vehicle

And so I put the umbrella

On that table and bungee

Corded it and then we followed

It like a sundial

To find that two feet of

Shade for the rest

For lunch you know or whatever

That was awful

By the way is that the Heaven and Ale

Stout it's delicious

This is my second one yeah it's Love Supreme

It's very very delicious yeah it's good

I was going to go to Bloody Mary and then I saw

Them pour this spell out by the way if you ever come

To Bonnarooo go to the Camp Reddaroo

Beer exchange I brought you the Odd Story

Which is the right around the corner

Now you got the Heaven and Ale Love Supreme

You're doing very well

The Odd Story Lager the Viennial Lager is very good

You're welcome to Chattanooga

So my first year coming to Bonnarooo

I didn't know I was coming to Bonnarooo until the month

Before this was 2009

And

My buddy is literally like Mitchell

You're coming to Bonnarooo with me we're going to give you

A hundred dollars you have to pay for the rest

I was like okay

And so I go to Bonnarooo

And I have no preparation

I literally have

Looking at my supplies and I have a sleeping bag

A really shitty tin I haven't used in like three years

End of discussion

We're done we're prepped

This is like the polar opposite of where you are now

Oh it was bad so and I'm looking at

Space and there's six of us total

In a truck and they go

Leave your tent one of us has a

Twelve person tent it's going to be great

So everybody leaves their tent

Behind I buy a bag chair

And I have my bag chair

And my clothes that's

About all I've got so we

No one thinks to bring a

Big damn easy up none of us

And the truck breaks down

About a mile away from the entrance while we're

Waiting in line and we're like

Alright just grab the essentials we're going to get the truck

Fixed we'll get that back so the girl

That brought the twelve person tent she's like I'll grab

My tent just picks it up out of there

None of us even flinch

To think about the fact that this little

Tiny four foot eleven girl

Hooked a twelve person tent on her shoulder

And started walking we just grab our

Supplies which for me is my clothes my bag

Chair I got everything out of the truck

So we walk all the way

In on foot check in get

To campsite start setting up and she goes

Oh no guys

She had left

Every pole at the house

And this was all

Six of us

Four went foregone our

Entire camping supplies because

The holy grail of a twelve person

Tent that she brought and so we have an

Over glorified tarp and that's

Our camping situation our neighbors are nice enough

To be like hey guys you can put your

Your chairs under our easy up

And that's that was after day one

Because I woke up in the rain and my neighbor was like

Buddy you can

Move your chair over here at least

Because everybody else they

They went and they bought a one of those

Really expensive

Tents from Bonnarooo's like emergency

Shop up front wow yeah

I think it's like a hundred and twenty dollars for a

Two person sweat box

And so I was like fuck that

I'm going to drink this weekend I can't spend

A hundred and twenty dollars on a box

So I slept in the rain

In an easy easy in my

Bag chair for the first day and then under my

Friends from Louisiana's easy up

For the rest of it and that was

My first experience and I had so much fun I came back

I love this story so much because

The way that you prioritize

Your funds it's

It is drinking

And then eh

Comfort is second because

I can buy comfort by the can

That's right

One more and you're comfortable

My god Don Draper would

Kill for that that line

I find comfort in a can

So

Biggest mess we've had the

The news from Jeff Cuellar

And Mock Lime alright I've

Got one final question

That I will ask

Around the table here

You know how Vegas has residency acts

And you know how

Like now

Somebody called me up the other day and

They said hey you want to send somebody to see the

Chainsmokers in the

No

So Vegas

Has residency acts

If Bonnarooo had a residency act

If Bonnarooo had one act that played

Every year it was the same

Time every year and you knew it was

Going to happen who would it be

Warren Haynes

I knew it was going to be a My Morning Jacket

I knew there was going to be some sort of My Morning Jacket

But My Morning Jacket

Would be good

My Morning Jacket

Or Warren

I would say Chance

Or you know Marcus from Lumpford and Sons

I feel like they kind of grew through Bonnarooo

House band

Just as coked or something

I find

There's a piece

Of the Bonnarooo experience

Shut up

She's going to be here some year

You know what I mean

There is a

There is a thing about Bonnarooo

That I have missed for damn near five

Years that doesn't happen anymore

And it really bugs me

There was a thing in our camp that we

All went to Camp Nut Butter

Every single year found the same show

And we all wanted to go no matter what

We don't agree on anything

There's nothing we agree with

But Sunday morning church

At one o'clock on the what

It happened every year

If it was Charles Bradley it went to Mavis Staples

If it went from Mavis Staples

Over and over and over

I missed church on Sunday

On the what stage

I know not many people show up

That Charles Bradley show broke my heart

Because Charles Bradley was my favorite album of that year

But nobody came

But if there's one piece of residency

That I

Now there's the Grand Ole Oprys there

That is your residency

Residency is Grand Ole Opry

Every year you know Grand Ole Oprys

I want Sunday church back

For now

I mean I guess they could argue that the

Calliope stage is it but that's not us

You're going to bother me here

It's Calliope

Please stop saying this

What is it or what is it not

I can't figure out which one it is

It's Calliope

It's Calliope

Charlie knows how to pronounce it

It's not Calliope

It's Calliope

I'm just going to say this by the time anybody gets there

I don't want to say move the hill

By the time anybody gets there they don't care how it's pronounced

Yeah that's right

If you want to go see the weirdest stuff at Bonnaroo

Go there after 3am

Gucci Mane, it was awesome

So

I know we went through wish list

Not Dolly

Who do you think will absolutely be there

Barry Courter

Yes sir

Daniel

They're my favorite

I am unashamedly a Kevin fanboy

Lizzo

Yeah

You know anything about that

I'll let you know

All I know

Is there has not been a schedule

Made for Lizzo for 2019

Nate's a tool

For me

The 17, 15 to 17 year old

Me really wants to see Rage there this year

I don't think it's going to happen but I would really like to see Rage on this machine

Why do you think it won't happen

I'll put every dollar that I have

In my paycheck on it would not happen

And that's what I'm thinking too

I don't think it would happen but that would be

If I'm looking at the landscape of who I want to see

The one thing I really want to see

I'm going into my

Six years

And I'm starting to become an old vet at this point in time

I really want to see Bonnaroo bring back

The true legacy act

If they did that this year who do you think it would be

I've been saying it might be Springsteen

But I don't know what do you think

You guys have got to see

This is what I got to stop you at

You got to start thinking about dollars

There's no possible way

They're going to bring Bruce Springsteen

Tame Impala, Tool

Rage on this machine

You got to think about money here

Of course the logistics

And the financials around it

I think

And that's one of the things that I remember

My fond memories of the 15

You go back and look at the line up

And you had a true legacy

Although

Billy Joel, now it makes sense

Why Billy Joel cut his set short because he had an interaction with Brad

That makes complete sense now

Those kind of doofuses

Do you know how many people

When I got back to camp said

Billy Joel is never coming back to Vodderoo

He hates Vodderoo because of the one interaction

He had with some doper

He was going to do an encore but you stopped it from happening

Killed it

The thing about Rage on this machine

Here's the other thing I wanted to say earlier

By the way

I know that there was some sort of

Hubbub about the Coldplay thing

That I said

Let me make sure I clarify what I said about Coldplay

Coldplay is not going to do

2020 and 2021

Because what I was told

Is that they do

Tours one way

They do an album

Then they go silent

And then they do another album

And then they do an arena tour

They've done every tour that way

Since they were Coldplay

So it was based on every single

Thing that has happened in the past

If it was going to go forward

And the person told me that it was not going to be any different

Than the past

I wouldn't say it's not going to happen in the next two years

If they go silent this year

Because they just put out an album

They're going to wait for another album

That means the next album

They're going to do nothing but arenas

So again

Be that as it may

It's not a complete out

I'm sure they could do thing after thing here and there

But based on everything that I was told

That they're going to do this exact same

Structure that they've done every other album

Secondly

Thing about Coachella

Give me an artist

That has done a reunion show

At Coachella that has also done

At a Bonnaroo

Cool, Earth Wind and Fire

Found one

Now give me a headliner

No, it's not Earth Wind and Fire

On the Rage Against the Machine level

When you go back and see all of the

Things that Coachella has done

It does not translate to

Anything that Bonnaroo does

So when somebody says Rage Against the Machine

I would love that

I would kill for that

I think you have a better shot of profits

Against Rage Against the Machine

So Brad, you're being the voice of reason about

Our expectations

Because every year our expectations go here

And we all get the line up and we're all like

Womp, womp

So what do you think would be realistic

Names for a legacy slot

For next year

Where did this Diana Ross thing come from?

That came from Kyle the Bonnaroobian

He's a big fanboy

You know

I don't know

I don't know what the legacy would be

This is not where I'm good

I don't do well with the guesses

I did a mock line up one time

Like 10 years ago and it was the worst

Thing that I've ever done

It was so stupid, I look like a fool

So in terms of expectations in the line up

Me and Sarah do the same

Thing every year

We pay no attention to any of the rumors

Sometimes it comes across

But we wait until the line up drops

And then somebody always does the Lord's work

And sorts the line up by genre

And we just go to genres we like and listen to shit we've never heard of

And it's just Christmas every year

Even by mocks

Kikugaku Moyo is actually one of the best things I found this year

We're gonna go see them again Tuesday

And they're my favorite show

Mitchell, what was the jazz infusion band

That you turned me on to

I met you there, you were in your skeleton costume last year

Oh god

The comet comes

The comet is coming

The comet is coming and the only reason we found

That is because I was like

Chaotic jazz

Let me play on that

Psychedelic jazz and just free form

Anything jazz, I'll play you a list

That's how I found Mastodon

Because somebody told me jazz metal and I was like that

You just checked two boxes off

You get really high

Let me just

Just to kind of piggyback

On what Mitchell was saying

When you run these camps

We try to stay relevant with the rumors

For our campers

And for everybody there

And you know a lot of it is really just to kind of

Try to keep the energy up and everything

But I'm much like Mitchell

I will not really

And Daniel said it best earlier

I come for the people and stay for the music

I could really care

I've been with Bonnarooo lately

Let me say this

I think that the music industry is starting to change

Because you don't see the traditional

Album tour, album tour anymore

And you know like the festival is being

So saturated

To me in the last couple years

I don't even care who's coming because

It's such a toss up at this point in time

It's such a toss up because

There's no real way to

Put it into a formula and say you know what

Okay well Tim and Paula just dropped the album

Okay so now they're going to tour

But no bands really doing that traditionally

Anymore and I think you were talking about this a minute ago

Like it just, you just don't know

And so for us when we run these communities

It's just like you know we try to keep

The hype up for the participation but

Here's what I know

I know that stadium tours

Arena tours are going to pay a lot more than festivals

Because you can do a lot of them at once

And one person buys all of them

Right so if you're going to do a festival

It's going to be a one off and it's usually

If you go buy the money you're going to do

A festival on an off year

Not many people do a festival

On an on year of an album

Because an on year of an album gets you all the heat

Alright so

I don't know what that means for most people

I don't but you're not getting

The Eagles, you're not getting the Eagles

It's a three and a half million dollar show

It's not happening you know

So it's, all I know

About the line up is that

Every year it always

Underwhelms us and we always

Are shocked by what

Is being paid to the top line

And if I can

Again going back to what I said earlier

My Chemical Romance is one point

Five million dollars on the base

Are you going to find

Anyone that is going to

Make or break their Bonnarooo

Purchase on My Chemical Romance

No I don't think that you are

Those guys don't want to be in a field

Plus they're not doing many shows

And one point five million dollars

Exists on the top line of your line up

And does

That sell a ticket

To everybody else

So let me give you the example

If the line up is Tool

Vampire Weekend and My Chemical

Romance, do you think that

Sells tickets? I don't think so either

We're all saying the same thing

Kevin is saying

The

Organizers of these things have

Learned the experience

Has become as much a part of it as the line up

So they don't have to spend

They don't need to spend

Three million to get

Because the money

That they're spending out in the campsites that are

Experiences by

Haley Williams etc. Do you remember back in

2009, 2008 David Byrne

Curated an entire stage

He curated that tent

And he brought Saint Vincent

And people that we didn't know about

At the time, Andy DeFranco was on that stage

And he curated an entire stage

Now they're taking that idea and putting it out in the campsites

And to me, for the

People that live in the

GA world, that to me is such

A better experience than if

Insert person here that I'm dying

To see at a show

What you guys have created

And that's the thing, and I'm sure you get

We were talking about the residency earlier and I'm sure you guys saw this

On the news as well, where you know

You have these residency programs in

Vegas where one of the big nightclubs

Just shut down because the asking

Price of the artist was

Way beyond what they could, because the

Participation wasn't there. Do you think

That these festivals start to run into that problem?

That they're not going to be able to book

These talents because of the asking price?

And that's why Bonnarooo

May be ahead of the game of creating these

Outside experience which then

Brings, it's like

You know, you look at the lineup every year and you're like

Who's the headliner is going to be? But really

I mean we could probably take a poll here

You know, how many of us have really got excited

About the headliners? We found more enjoyment

In the mid card. Right, exactly.

Absolutely. And so it seems like

That's where maybe these festivals are

Starting to go because these artists asking

Price are so much. I mean just to add on to

What Kevin said, I'm not going to Bonnarooo

For the music, honestly. Good for you.

And that's the honest to god's truth. I'm going to Bonnarooo for the community

It's a vacation for me, it's a way to get away

From my normal life, it's a way to get away from

Work, and I can't

Be the only person out there

That's going to Bonnarooo for the community

Just to go to Bonnarooo

For that aspect. I mean I honestly

Can't be the only person

Who, I mean honestly, you know

To me

And I'm going to say this in the honest to god's truth

Nickelback could play Bonnarooo

And I would still buy a ticket and go.

I would throw down at a terrible

Nickelback concert. I would still buy a ticket

And go. I would still buy a ticket and go.

You just got voted off of the campsite.

Sorry, bye. Bye.

My friends make the concert. The talent

On stage just adds flavor.

No, I mean I would probably

Stay in the campsite all day

And probably drink and get drunk and do whatever

But, you know, I would still buy a ticket and go.

It's so funny you say that about

Nickelback. I was listening to a podcast

Recently where somebody said the exact same thing

Of, you know, it's like

But the, if Nickelback

Was booked, there'd be so many people

There because of that cult.

You know, in a weird way

I can actually see Nickelback

At 111.

In a very strange way that would make a lot of sense

At 111 Fest. If Bryan Stone

Talks right now, I'm going to lose my mind.

I got a microphone again.

I mean this is my gear here. I got a microphone again.

Her point is

That is an incredible point.

Nickelback doesn't matter

Is a great point. And they have

A couple songs that are okay. Thank god you

Jumped in.

I saved the show at an hour and fifteen.

Well, first off

We thank you so much for coming down

The whole Roobust crowd and so many

Bonnaroo people.

It really does. And I'll say this about

The Camp Red Roob. Before I get to Roobust

The Camp Red Roob people. First off

You guys coming means the world.

But

What you guys have created

And what you've done out

In whatever pod you find yourself in

To me is exactly

Why I'm so dying

To be a part of Bonnaroo every single year.

Even in the trees.

You guys personify

What the experience is.

You took a blank piece of land

And then you created a world

Around it. And I love

Everything about that. So all

The credit in the world to you guys.

Smuggle on all magic.

You smuggle what in?

Smuggle magic in.

He means that metaphorically. No wonder you were there for twelve hours.

So Roobust

Thank you so much for coming and

Being a part of this and supporting us the way

That you have. You guys

Took a chance

Two years ago to do

The repeat repeat thing. And

In a weird way. In a weird way

I feel like that repeat repeat

Show at least

Created a community that changed

The conversation. And

I don't know if this podcast

Exists without like Jared

And Kristen. They are so

Great to us and they made us feel like

There was a community out there that we didn't know

Existed. And you guys

Started that. So

Congratulations creating something really really well done.

You were asking who should be the house band.

It's them. Because they embody Bonnaroo

So much. Yeah.

Well, yeah. Those guys are terrific.

I kept

I was thinking about them after listening to your

Podcast with them. They're just

Yes. That's the

Word to them. Yes.

What do you want? What do you need? What can we do?

Yes. So I'm going to

Finish this with going around real quick.

I want to find, we are in November.

We've got a month. There's a month

Before the hangout line up comes out the first week

Of December. Coachella

Will be right before that. My bet. And then

Bonnaroo first of the year.

Let's go around and just tell me what to listen

To between now and then. Give me

An artist to listen to between now and then.

Matt Mason. Matt Mason.

We've had him right down the road. I've had him

In my building. He's terrific.

I love him. He's great. Yeah.

I mentioned this on our Twitter the other day.

One that I'm really into is called Fly

Golden Eagle. They're kind of a psychedelic

Rock band out of Nashville. I think they'd be a good ad.

I've seen them. Listen to the new Third Eye

Blind album. Yeah.

Man, you didn't have a Nickelback track you want to share?

Third Eye Blind. No, no, no. Me and Charles

Will go into the story about that some other time. Okay. I'd love to hear

The story, but man, I love that

Smash mouth that you're about to tell me about.

I'm actually never listening to Nickelback.

You remind me.

Please take his mic away from him.

Hey, I'm the guy in control.

Unfortunately. I like Michael

Kuanda. He'd be cool to see. Yes. God, I love

Him so much. I love that new project.

Or Labyrinth, sorry. I got nothing. I want to hear

The, was it the Blam Blams you were talking

About? The Blams Blams. They're incredible. Okay.

That's the one I want to listen to. Yes. Okay.

They are literally a mix of LCD sound system,

Queen,

The Beatles, the Bowie, everything.

Like amazing stage presence,

Like incredible vocals, incredible

Like musicianship.

Awesome.

Alright, so he's been sitting here

Quietly the whole time. What is your name?

Zack. My name is

Zack. Alright, give me something you're listening to right now.

I've been listening,

Can you hear me on this thing? I can hear you. Okay. Everybody can hear me?

Alright. I've been listening to a lot

Of Beck since I saw him at Shaky Knees

This past, yeah, his new album

Hyperspace is coming out

Next month, actually it's coming out

This month in November in like two weeks

Time so, and from the

Songs I've been hearing, you know, Beck

Is eclectic, I mean,

He's really, he's

Beck-lectic, I mean he's his own genre.

It's like it's going to like a vapor wave

Sort of kind of style.

You know, I did.

Yeah, so keep an eye out

On Hyperspace, your new album

By Beck, that'd be

Alright.

So, what's up with Beck, up and coming artist?

Mitchell, you got anything?

You got something for Mitchell? You got a thing for Mitchell?

Mitchell, let me see here.

What do you got? Give me something to listen to.

Well, in all honesty, I'm going to tell you to go into the past

And there's a genre called Nya Rock

That is so incredible.

Oh my god.

It's like Zydeco jazz funk.

Imagine, like Lonnie Liston Smith with the second line.

Alright, at the table,

Brian and Nate, you got an idea

What you're listening to right now?

Pearl Jam. Almond Brothers all weekend long.

Shut up.

Three days of Almond Brothers back to back.

Have y'all heard about Blackberry Smoke?

Then the Pearl Jam cover band.

Okay, great.

Alright, so I'm going to...

Les Zeppelin.

How am I supposed to follow that?

Okay, you're not.

So, if

I got two,

and she knows it, the King Princess album

is the best album of the year. It's absolutely

the absolute best album of the year.

I'm obsessed with it. But I've found

a girl. I found a girl in England.

Her name is Litany.

She is followed by nobody.

She has no management.

She has no record label.

And if I was an A&R guy tomorrow,

I'd be dragging her from England

to America to bring her to

my boss.

Her name is Litany.

Listen to

My Dude.

Listen to her new song, which is

something. I don't remember.

Litany is my girl.

She is unbelievable.

And she sounds like every sort of

King Princess slash her outfit that you can

find. I'm obsessed with her.

There you go. That's what I got.

Barry, anything else?

Thanks to the Moxie. Thanks to you guys for traveling up here.

That means a bunch.

Not only thanks to the guys, but thanks to the Moxie

hashtag at the Moxie.

The Moxie Chattanooga has

been more, more,

more than gracious than

I could have ever expected.

They let us drive a car

into their patio.

I know you're going to laugh,

but we need to thank Lord Taco.

Yes, Lord Taco, by the way, if you want to follow

Lord Taco at Russell on the Bus is the guy

that puts literally everything that we do.

He is the guy that is

the heart and soul of it. And then, of

course, that guy.

Thanks to Brian and Nate.

One last thing. I'll make this super quick.

And Nate over here, by the way.

Sorry, Daniel. Go ahead.

I'll make this super quick. Take a minute.

One important thing that has always been a mantra

for us with the Roobus is

keeping this community going,

continuing to radiate positivity. I want us all

to recognize that we have a lot of new people coming

in every year. It is our responsibility

as the upperclassmen to continue to

pass on the code and radiating

positivity because we want to keep this community going

forever. That is really wonderful.

I was never good in high school, so I don't

know if I'm the best person to do that.

No, you suck up

for positivity.

I was about to say something clever, but...

Today's rave babies are tomorrow's

wookatree.

Hey, man, can I borrow

everything?

The What Podcast, Barry Courter,

Brad Steiner, Daniel from the Roobus, the whole

Roobus crew. Thank you so much for coming.

Thank you for listening. I guess we'll see you

pretty soon.