The Revivalists

Is it time to catch a cab back to the city?

Barry Courter is hula hooping as we speak.

Exactly.

Yeah. It just puts you in the Bonnarooo spirit, doesn't it?

Yeah, I'm that guy out in front of the tax office on the street.

The wind. The wind of arms.

That crazy, you know, windy plastic man that's flowing in the breeze.

Welcome to the What Podcast.

That's Barry Courter, I'm Brad Steiner,

and today we're talking to the revivalist because you asked for it.

That's exactly right, because you asked for it.

We had a nice conversation in week four, Brad.

Yeah.

And speaking of, because you asked, and I know you'll love this,

but I got a call this morning at about 8 o'clock, which meant it was 5 o'clock, his time,

from our friend Dennis Haskins, Mr. Belding.

Mr. Belding from Saved by the Bell.

From Saved by the Bell called, and in the course of our conversation,

he said he went and saw Bozzie last night.

Oh, did he? Okay.

Another one of our guests in an upcoming episode.

Upcoming podcast episode, sure.

Yeah, he said he was great, and it's a great live show.

Well, it's great live shows.

We keep finding the artists over and over and over that put on a great live show,

and revivalists pretty much made their name being a great live band.

There's just a different feeling, at least for me, from the albums to the live show,

and it's that live show that made everybody, or at least our listeners,

reach out to us and say, get the revivalists, get the revivalists,

because that live show is just unlike most others.

Yeah, that's right, and what's neat about seeing a band like that,

I had a Bonnarooo, my morning jacket comes to mind, what, four hours in the rain,

several years ago.

To be honest, I had not heard of them, was not a fan.

Saw half of that show and became a massive fan, so I only saw two hours.

A Bonnarooo podcast for Bonnarooians, by Bonnarooians.

Barry Courter from the Chattanooga Times-to-Press.

I'm Brad from Hits96 in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

We got a chance to talk to the revivalists.

Start playing that here in a second.

Later on the podcast, ways in which you can interact with us,

you can win Bonnarooo tickets with camping passes,

and we've got an update on some giveaways that we've done over the past couple of weeks

to you, the fine What Podcast listener.

The reason I like talking to the revivalists is because they have that thread

that goes right to the history of Bonnarooo.

If we talked to Ashley Capps last week, he's just one half of where it started.

The other half was the New Orleans culture.

That part of it, if you didn't know much about Bonnarooo,

you definitely feel it at the festival.

There always seems to be something that is so New Orleans,

that happens on the grounds, whether it's trombone shorty showing up in every place,

or if it's the parade, or if it's food.

The name, the name itself. Bonnarooo is Creole or Cajun for a good time.

Superfly, which is now in New York, with their co-founders, along with Ashley,

I think they started in New Orleans, so that's why you have that feel.

Alan Toussaint has always been there as well.

The Neville brothers had like night, or year after year after year,

they kept showing up, playing three, four shows a weekend.

It definitely has that New Orleans kind of vibe and feel,

and always has, and I guess always will.

The revivalists, the star of this week's The What Podcast.

This was our conversation with the revivalists just a few days ago.

By now, I hope that everybody has heard the story of you guys,

because Jesus, you guys have told it a thousand times.

Thank you.

But it takes on a whole new life when you consider that the last year and a half

of you guys' life, there's no preparation for it.

There's absolutely no way to sort of wrap your head around,

maybe what the last year and a half might have been,

and it is very almost storybook.

Whether or not the beginnings of it exist or not,

you guys sort of did, I feel like, old school way to go about a career.

You get a bunch of friends together, you go on the road with them in a van,

you eventually get a bus, and then, oh my God,

we might have a number one single on our hands.

And then your life changes and you're headlining Bonnarooo.

You're one of the headliners of Bonnarooo.

That can't seem to make much sense to you right now, huh?

Our audience is our Bonnarooo fans, so we may be a little bit more in-depth,

but what is that like physically and emotionally to go from the van to suddenly,

and you have to be so proud doing a morning show with Kathie Lee Gifford.

That has to have been a high point.

Oh yeah, that was great.

So what is that whole transformation like?

Yeah, I mean, for me, sometimes I kind of try to compartmentalize it and not really,

I still try to think about just like, man, I'm glad I'm getting paid anything to do any of this.

That's certainly a thing.

You're not working on a roof, that's for sure.

Right, but physically for you guys, what are the things?

Is the van bigger? The hotel room's nicer?

People carrying stuff for you now? You still have to carry your own stuff?

What changes?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Our lives have changed in pretty much every facet of it.

To me, it was almost like, you know, you're kind of going up the,

you know how you get on a roller coaster and you go up and you're about to go down the hill

and you're right over the thing. You've been, you know, you've got all this anticipation.

And you're right there at the hill.

And then you go down and you still got a little bit of the woozies and you're like, oh shit.

But you just had them in the time of your life.

And you go around this curve and you're like, oh shit, we almost got out, but we made it.

You know, so not to be too cliche, but really a bit of a roller coaster ride.

And we're still on it. Hotels have certainly changed. They've gotten a little nicer.

Our bus has, you know, gotten bigger, I guess, you know.

How does it change your songwriting approach?

Barry sort of asked it earlier.

The pressure is also not only got to be refreshing, but it's also got to be a little bit debilitating.

Does it change the songwriting approach to you?

I was actually talking about this to somebody the other day.

And honestly, like at this point in my life and where I'm at and we are at in our career,

like I'm like, I'm happy with where we're at.

So like if we don't have another hit song and we just, you know, continue to do what we do, I'm cool.

So like I don't really, it doesn't feel like pressure to me.

It's like I don't really have the, I'm not feeling pressure to write another hit song because I don't care if we have a hit.

You know, like whatever. I don't write music to write hits.

Like it was never a thing. Like our single was a song that I, you know, was a true feeling, you know.

It was like, I really wish I had more time, you know, before I met my current girlfriend, you know, with you.

Like, you're not going to say that I've met, you know, and wasted time with other people because certainly not.

You know, it's all a part of opinion. It's all a part of us growing as people.

To say that like in my feeling pressure to write that kind of stuff.

So it feels, it feels, you know, it just feels like, like any old, any old day in the studio, I guess.

They don't see the stars.

The ball. So Friday night.

They make me do your level.

I'm the one I need the most.

I need the most.

I was young.

I was young.

Can you go anywhere ever and not hear that song? No, it's in every, it's in every supermarket.

My mother sings it. It is just one of the big monster hits of the last three years.

I'm betting if we go out in the cars right now, it's on and we go home, turn the TV.

It's going to be on. Yeah, it's everywhere.

Change their lives, change their lives. Change.

Now the hotels are a little bit nicer.

You know that people answer your phone calls.

They return phone calls. We just need that hit.

Better. We just need that one hand.

And of course, the song changed over the course of the years as it got bigger and bigger and bigger.

The song kept getting longer and longer.

You can hear it at Bonnarooo. It's going to be probably nine minutes long.

But that's just part of the festival atmosphere

for you guys, the revivalists.

Are you guys big festival fans? Do you find yourself immersed in the festival culture?

When I'm trying to discover new stuff, I mean you kind of can't do better than a festival, you know, it's like a

musical buffet.

Just being able to go like I've been exposed to so many things that I never would have heard of otherwise.

Like at Voodoo Festival in

2004 when I was a freshman and it's like just moved to New Orleans.

We wandered into some random tent and I was like what is going on? There's like a shirtless Balkan man and

two like washboard players in striped tights. It was Goggle Bordello.

Oh wow.

Holy crap.

It's pretty good.

These guys are insane.

Yeah, stuff like that. Like you just you get you can't get those moments really at another kind of thing.

But for as a as somebody as an act as somebody playing I like every show.

Has anybody told you anything about Bonnarooo?

Do you have like a thought in your head as to what Bonnarooo is and what you might expect when you get there?

So we have we played here.

We played Bonnarooo.

Did you? What year?

Yeah, we played it in 2012 I think.

Wow, okay.

Probably something like that.

Well long time ago before anyone even knew who the hell we all were for sure.

But we played the one of the tent. I want to say it was the What's This tent or do you have a what are the what are some of the stage names?

We did the solar stage and we put the tent at some point like we did we did like two and a half shows I think.

Yeah, we did the tent that was across directly across from from the main stage.

And so whoever ended there, you know, they ended and then as soon as they were done.

It was Bjork.

We went on.

Bjork yeah.

As soon as they were done we went on and there was you know it's an okay amount of people in there.

I think by the you know the third or fourth song there was you couldn't fit another person in.

I just remember that show being one of those magical shows.

That was one of those shows for me where you know how you just you know it's like there's an old saying it's like you know you're the band does a thousand shows.

Eight hundred of them are going to be okay.

Pretty good.

Two hundred of them are going to be damn that was fucking great show.

Ninety of those shows are going to be like oh my god dude that was that was that was that was the show you know.

Many of those are going to be like that was that was life changing.

Those that was life changing.

And then there's going to be one show that makes you go do a thousand more.

And that Bonnarooo show was that show.

Wow.

That happens.

That happens a lot.

We hear that a lot and I think honestly that's why Brad and I do this because we've had those moments.

You know we're both veterans of more than a dozen anyway and we definitely have had those moments and you don't know when they're coming.

You don't know.

You don't know when they're coming.

Boy this is amazing.

And see this is this goes to show you even though Barry and I between the two of us have been to twenty seven Bonnarooo's.

I just went back to the twenty thirteen lineup the twenty thirteen lineup.

You guys were on the last line.

Oh wow.

Last line.

Twenty thirteen.

Okay.

Last line of the twenty thirteen Bonnarooo lineup.

And now look at you.

Wow.

Wow.

It's been a good couple of years.

You guys know where you're playing at what time.

Not offhand.

Yeah.

Not offhand.

Stomper right now.

We're in the studio right now.

That's like all I know.

We go to Phoenix on Sunday.

That's about as far into the future as I tend to be aware of.

We've talked before about the fact that Bonnarooo does a good job of that and it's fun for us as fans to see a band like you guys on a small stage one year come back and you're on a huge stage the next year.

What is that like for you guys as band members is it something you think about you strive for.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean that's the dream.

Did you spend a lot of time on the farm that weekend and do you plan to do that when you're here when you have time to go maybe see other acts and hang out and play with other people.

Our first time we did we did have a couple we had a couple nights because also I think we played one night and then we had like a day show and then another like we had I think we had things for three days of the weekend.

So we got a lot of good like good after night hangs.

I love a festival that doesn't stop after the headliner like that's one of my favorite moves when it's like all right Paul McCartney or whoever's done now come to this tent and like watch this guy play a violin and a tuba over a DJ beat or something.

Five in the morning. Exactly. That's to me that's like when festivals get real. Right. So that's something I love about Bonnarooo. I think we're going to have maybe maybe a night or two to explore.

But then the day after we got to get out or something.

Not as much time but some.

The revivalist the star of this week's show because you asked for it and because they're so ingrained in New Orleans culture being from New Orleans the way that they met the way that they have grown the way this band has taken on a insane reputation for their live show and the crowds that they bring.

This is going to be one of the big ones I'm going to guess on the which stage Friday sometime mid afternoon late afternoon probably.

Yeah. Based on the reaction that we've gotten. I say they definitely will be one of the biggest ones and just listening to that last song.

They're a perfect Bonnarooo type act. Yeah they are. And it's going to go in a lot of different directions.

Got such a voice that can go with anything. That's why he traveled with Galactic and was one of the traveling lead singers for that band. His voice can get soulful. It can get almost Rage Against the Machine like.

By the way they cover Rage Against the Machine in their live show. The crowds just respond to them in different ways than just a normal. Yeah. Just a normal rock show.

It's funny I don't know if you're the same as I am but I can hear certain songs and they they are one of those bands and I can just picture midnight on the farm with the lights and the stage.

And that's how I hear it. Right. It could work in the mid afternoon it could work at midnight no matter what place you put them they're going to fit.

Yeah it's just a different kind of vibe than seeing them in a in a theater or something you know an arena or something.

And I wonder if they take that vibe and they bring it to the studio for their new album. What a segue because that's what we asked them. This is the revivalist on the What Podcast.

So you're writing stuff now. How's it going. Pretty great. Pretty great. Do you guys like have it ready to go when you when you walk in the studio or you just sort of like piecemeal it together when you get there.

I've always wondered like we were doing Sergill Simpson on our podcast last week and Sergill wrote this album you know a sailor's guide to life and he had it all written and ready to go. And once he walked in the studio he was done in four days.

That's a that's a little bit more streamlined than we are I think for you know we got like seven I guess kind of eight people now. We're all kind of all over the place in terms of what we want in terms of vision and how we kind of piece things together.

This has been easier. This has been a little bit quicker than normal. We came in with a lot of stuff pretty well worked up and we've been working with a guy named Dave Cobb who I know Dave he did.

Yeah yeah yeah. It was funny I actually I was watching the Grammys with my wife and when Chris Stapleton won the record and he came up with him and he's like oh that's that guy we're going to be working with in a month.

That's right. That's exactly right. You know the guys that straddle the line between country and rock. Boy it's Dave Cobb the guy you call. Yeah I mean he's he's remarkable too just in terms of like ideas just kind of come out of him like a faucet.

It's crazy. It's been really it's been really cool to work with him because it's a lot. It kind of cuts down a lot of the time that usually when we get in the studio there's a lot more of like OK now we need to figure out like should this be that or whatever this thing and he'll just come in and be like OK that that boom boom done.

Track everything in one room. Singer in the middle of the room and it's just awesome it's been sounding really great. Have you done the previous albums the same way. No normally this has actually been a bit of a bit of an adjustment for us in terms of kind of how we how we use the studio.

Normally we get in and we have ideas how we go and kind of the producers we work with are more about kind of shaping what we're doing and basically just telling us when not to play like telling who not to play at what point because there's a lot of us.

That's usually what we need more than anything is like hey if you drop out in the verse here. So normally we'll kind of track a couple things together and then do a lot of overdubs and this has been a lot more kind of live and performance and the take is the take which is very exciting and maybe a little bit scary.

But what we've been able to hear so far is it sounds like you're living dangerously a little bit. Oh yeah. On the edge man. Like when you have eight people in the room is everybody contributing ideas or is that become a little bit too many cooks in the kitchen.

It can sometimes I think for us at this point we've been we've been a unit for long enough that everybody kind of has an idea of what we're supposed to do or what what's generally our role or our part and kind of building up a song been helpful having having a guy like Cobb and Neda who's just like you do this you do that and everybody's like all right sure guys you're a genius.

Okay. Yeah well I was just going to say it you have to have a producer with a sort of strong will don't you because you guys have been together long enough you have that sort of that you know you can speak to each other without having to add all the apologies.

I think you're a great guy but you know that's yeah that's a good point that's that's something that takes a long time to develop and we definitely need somebody who is capable of telling us that we're all talking at the same time and we need to stop doing that.

We have that same issue here.

That's just life.

And I don't mean to read tea leaves or try to you know go places that I probably shouldn't but if Dave Cobb's working on are you guys adjusting the sound a little bit.

Yeah, that's kind of hard to say I think that's something that an outsider might have a better idea of that than I do to me everything we do just kind of feels like us. Okay, maybe the overall aesthetic not necessarily like the songwriting and the tones and stuff but kind of Cobb's approach about more of we don't need to have so much polish and kind of like I said let the take be the take I think that's that's something that's a little different but I think to me it all just sounds like that.

Mountains pressing into the night.

But we know now what we do.

We know now what we do.

We are the ones.

We are the ones.

Turn the fire into light.

But we know now what we do.

But the changes we go through.

Makes it all right.

We're in the mouth of the wolf we like chase the sun to sleep.

If we never come down we won't ever come down it don't make no difference to me.

So, I mean, it's been similar and different at the same time.

The things to me that were similar on Broadway probably I'm sure would agree were the meat of the album is has been us in the same room just tracking everything together.

I mean I just remember just thinking back to last week we cut two songs the song called Celebration and the song called Got Love.

You know we were kind of tracking them you know and separated out just different rooms and I was kind of in the booth and we were just like all right you know let's try something he was like Dave Dave said this he was like let's take all the amps out of the out of the booth.

I want to get you in there in the room on a 57 you know recording just like how Elvis did we took all the amps out put them in the room.

I went in there with a with a 57 and we just kind of cut the song live like we would do it you know at a show or whatever to kind of like really really truly capture some of that energy because you know there is something that to be said about you know when we're all actually in the same room and our answer in there.

There's this glee and there's just you know like a audio engineers nightmare but there is something that we're always wary about because there's so many of us and there's so much stuff going on that we're always like oh god but what about the isolation what if this thing happens and then we can't do that.

But then we just get the playback and it's like everything sounds cool and one thing I really like about Cobb is that a lot of times will be like last night Michael our trumpet player and I were we were doing some horn stuff and at one point we were like hey I think I might have been a little bit

out of tune there or something and Cobb is just like cool.

He's not trying to go back and fix it he's like that's real that's that's what makes it sound like a real performance.

Right. So this is fascinating because you know if you hear about Dave Cobb this is a similar story that he's that he has with a lot of artists and then he likes that sort of live feel in a recording session.

What's strange though is that if you take all the comments that we've gotten from this show so far it's all been if there's been a common thread get the revivalist get the revivalist get the revivalist and it's probably because those people that are asking about you guys have seen the live show.

I've seen the live show. It's a different experience than on the record and I wonder if it was a conscious or subconscious decision by you guys or management or whoever to get maybe the producer in Nashville that specializes in live in recording sessions live.

Yeah, you know it was a little bit of that. I mean there was a little bit of that but like I just I think we all kind of knew that his aesthetic in doing that was definitely a thing you know we knew that for sure.

What extent that was going to you know we were going to utilize that we had no idea just because we just never really you know we've never like I've never been you know I'm always like in the ice place like we definitely cut stuff together like that's how we record but like standing in the middle of the room with a live mic is crazy.

That's terrifying that's like a tightrope you know. Yeah, I think that's also something that I think we've kind of been chasing that live feel on at least our last two records but I think maybe it helps it helps having a guy like Cobb who's kind of like, he's going to push you off the off the cliff you know

you're standing at the high dive and you're like I don't know if I can do it he's like, yes you can. There's a hand in the small your back and I'm shoving you off. You guys are Thelma and he's Louise you guys are going off the cliff together.

That image of you standing uncomfortably in the center of the room I mean that's that can be kind of a big deal.

Yeah, he's very comfortable. Yeah, that was kind of the point. It never even occurred to us to do this and then it's just like wow.

The revival is the star of this week's The What podcast more with the guys coming up here in a minute. Barry I think that what you wanted to jump into is how much pressure they're feeling about working on this new album, especially with a guy like Dave Cobb and we'll get there here in a second plus a very interesting

story from the road. Apparently have a thing called a Ringo. Yeah, there's a Ringo problem with these guys. Yeah, yeah, they were not a problem they when they were recording I don't remember the last album or the previous one but it was pretty intense session and Rolling Stone had done an interview or Beatles retrospective and they had a full page picture of Ringo.

And one of the guys just kind of held it up in front of I think Dave's or maybe Rob's face just and didn't say anything. Right. Just this kind of, you know, be there, be inspired or whatever and so they've they've turned that into sort of a running gag like you do with somebody leaves their phone.

Gotcha. On the table you'll type something into their Facebook. Yeah, they're a bit more gentle than I they're much more gentle they don't have a problem with Ringo they like Ringo very much it's just become this kind of running thing.

Yeah, well the the What Podcast calm the website you can interact with this anytime that's going to get you in for tickets to Bonnarooo with camping access. I wanted to go through some of the emails that we've gotten because last week we asked for some fun Bonnarooo camping stories, you shared some of those, and you got in for Bonnarooo tickets.

So, two years ago we arrived Wednesday afternoon for our sixth Bonnarooo and started setting up camp, open up our trunk and found that the cooler had catastrophic failure effectively soaking every item of clothing and camping gear we had over our 13 hour drive.

Not a great way to start the vacation they started setting things up, frustrated struggling they're tired sweaty and pissed kind of the opposite of what Roo meant to them.

This is what he says well our kind neighbors could see the struggle stopped by asked us that they could help and basically took over our setup while lending us some dry threads and drink, not the wildest story in the world, but it's the spirit of Bonnarooo complete strangers dropping everything

they were doing to help their neighbors, without any expectations. That's a damn good Bonnarooo camping story. That's a great camping story and how many of those do you have I mean I think I do I have one of those every year when I show up I drop my stuff out of the car and then I say, Barry,

can you set up my camp? Denson? Yeah I remember the first year, maybe the second year I thought it'd be cool to kind of go by the lost and found tent and just see what sort of things are being turned in.

Right. And there was a guy in front of me, and just as I walked up, the clerk or the person or whatever gave him his wallet.

He had lost it in the middle of I think radio head. So imagine that crowd, he dropped his wallet in that crowd, and not only did someone find it and take it to lost and found everything that was in it was still in it.

No kidding. Yeah, and I've told people many many times I've never heard so much as a crossword at Bonnarooo. The vibe, it's real.

You know people, I would see people standing in line and then realize they needed to go get something so they get out of line and they come back and they go to the back or the front, whichever you and people that where they were in place, say, no, come on, you know, get back in.

Just that kind of thing. It makes it, it makes it a lot of fun you feel it, the moment you start checking in there's just a different vibe.

By the way, I got a question for you, are the horseback cops still around? Yes. Are they really? I haven't seen one in years. All I remember is one year being so I guess whacked out of my mind.

I looked around like I think I see horses, but I don't know if this is real or not. If they had stripes or they were purple you might be really worried.

By the way, we got this comment from John, I remember my first encounter with the horse security my first year at Bonnarooo in 2008. I didn't have my glasses, couldn't read my map. Being stubborn like I am I refused to ask for help. Just my luck one of the horse security ladies could tell I was struggling and lost. She helped me find my campsite that night.

I could have used her my first year because I walked for hours trying to find where I was standing. That camp out there is massive. Yeah, it's so big. And people get lost all the time.

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Back to the revivalist, the star of this week's the whatpodcast. It's amazing to hear that you are so comfortable being back in the studio, even though Dave Cobb's asking you to do other things. Yeah, how much of that is because you guys have done it. You sort of the slow and steady.

Do you think you might feel different if this had happened to your first album or first single? Yeah, I think it would be definitely a different thing. I certainly think so. But yeah, I think it helps a lot that because we kind of built up that fan base and all of the support, kind of one person at a time, one town at a time, one, six or seven or eight people sleeping on the floor of a single day's end at a time.

I think it just really helps with kind of the sustainability and the foundation of everything we've got. The hits come and go and that stuff could dry up in an instant, but we'll always still have like a great community of people behind us and we'll always be able to tour and we'll always be able to have fun and we'll always be able to be the revivalists. To me, it's just like that's how I sleep at night, you know?

That leads me to a good question about you guys being together. Who's the leader of the pack right now with the whole Ringo-ing thing? Who's got the best Ringo-ed?

Ah, Phil, I think Chris Vinnie's still on top. Our former producer of a couple of our albums, engineer on a few of our records, guy who sent a student after me at the end of a tour in Atlanta. Who's just like, hey, I thought she was going to take a selfie with me. And she's like, this is a picture of Ringo on my phone.

Yeah, I think the ball's at our court right now. I think we still need to, I gotta get him back. When was that, Rob? That was after the last show at the Tabernacle at the end of our last tour.

Oh, okay. Well, he got you then because me and Zach were in Vegas over the summer and there was a nice little picture of old Ringo and I sent a, no, I actually FaceTimed him. It was a little FaceTime.

I was like, Zach is just out here, you know, hanging in Vegas and then boom, Ringo. Boom.

We should tell people what we're talking about if they don't know. Anybody who leaves their Facebook page open or leaves their phone without the code, leaves it on the bar stool or the bar top, somebody's going to get it and they're going to put something rude on it or whatever.

And then you guys post pictures of Ringo to each other. So that's hilarious about the student bringing it. You guys are so much more kind than my friends because boy, I've been pregnant 15 times.

They're throwing stones and you're feeling bad. Blue, baby, friends of all you ever had. Love you, I won't lie, me or me. But now is not the time. Death is not the place for us.

Would you come with me? I want you to come with me. Cause I can't.

I see a natural fit. By now everyone knows you're from New Orleans. On the same night, Trumbo and Shorty is playing Bonnaroo. So both of you guys are playing Friday night. I have a feeling that you guys might have something planned together.

No comment.

I'm not going to say that we don't, but I'm not going to say that we do. As of right now, I'll be honest, there's no talk of that.

Okay. Well, I'm putting it in your ear. I'm dropping the hint. That's not to say that it won't happen. I love Troy for sure. I love his music. I love his band. I'm best friends with his guitar player. We're great friends.

There you go. The revivalist, the star of this week's The What Podcast. We appreciate you listening. Hey, follow along the whatpodcast.com or the what underscore podcast on Twitter. We're announcing next week's podcast in the upcoming days. Who will we talk to? What artists will we take a deep dive into? You'll find out the what underscore podcast on Twitter. Barry Courter. I'll see you next week. See you next week. You guys keep sending in those comments and suggestions. Yes. Thank you for your comments, your downloads, and thank you, Ray.

Thank you for your comments, your downloads, and thank you, Rob and Dave from the revivalist, the revivalist.com, the whatpodcast.com. Tickets to Bonnarooo available there. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks.

We'll be turning through the stories that define the artists playing Bonnarooo. Who are they? What are they? What will you see? The what? Which bands? This year, That Matter with Brad Steiner and Barry Courter.