The What Podcast Bonnaroo's 2021 Schedule: The What Podcast's Barry's Picks Season 4, Episode 22 Published August 25, 2021 https://beta.thewhatpodcast.com/episode/bonnaroos-2021-schedule-the-what-podcasts-barrys-picks Every day that passes is another day that we get closer to Bonnarooo 2021. The dreams of being on the farm in Manchester in September are becoming a reality. Last week, we went through line by line of Lord Taco's picks. This week, Barry Courter is up. One week away to what podcast, which bands this year that matter it starts right now. Wherever you are on this journey to Bonnarooo, we are depending on your location, days or hours away from Bonnarooo 2021. I can't believe it's actually happening or taco Barry Courter Brad Steiner, the what podcast we start today guys with major, major news. I have not told you guys this, but I've got some breaking news and hopefully by the time you hear this, somebody else hasn't gotten to the scoop, but I've got a major scoop. I'm going to start the show with Barry Courter at Lord taco. Are you guys ready for this? This is going to be a big one sitting down. Hit me. I hope so. Hit me. This coming from a high level source inside of Bonnarooo, Barry Courters only fans has been shut down. I hate to be the guy that breaks your heart, but Barry, so sorry. I'm glad you got to this so quickly because I would have hated for somebody else to get it first. Does this mean I'm getting a, am I getting a refund? Well, we go straight to the source, right? Barry, we go right to the source. Exactly. Well done. How's everybody doing today? Are you guys, are you packed? Are you ready to go? Is it, is it go time? I'm starting. I have, it's been fun to see some of the pictures on social of people. I think our friend Mitchell has already started his pile. I don't know if you guys saw that you see it taco. He's got his room, his living room looks like he's got his cooler and it's, it's interesting because you could break it down into thirds. There's like, look like there was some, you know, camping gear, coolers. And then the other third was beer. Only a third. Did you, did you, did you notice what beer he had? Did you do any beer judging? You'd have to look, you're more of the beer snob than I am. Okay. I was just looking for a PBR. If a PBR was available, I didn't see it. There were no blue ribbons, no blue ribbons. So, so what about you, Barry? You're, you're the, you're the packer of the group. You're the guy that, that basically, you know, we put all of our gear in you and tacos hands. Are you guys ready? Do you have everything all broken down and cleaned up and ready to go? Not all of it. No, I've started, been starting with the electronics. You're waiting till I get to town, aren't you? And then you're going to put all this work on me. Well, I am waiting because I know if I pack it, I'm going to have to unpack it to fit your, some crazy, some scheme that I've worked up. Yeah. Yeah. I will say, I will say that I do have a surprise this year for camp. I am coming to town with a surprise. You always do. I'm very excited about this surprise. This one is something that we've been working on for two years. It's not chickens, but I'm very excited. I was getting ready to say, because of the uncertainty of all this, unfortunately, I have not arranged for the chickens yet for people who don't know that was going to be, you know, we have a fence and we had a last year or two years ago, we had a mailbox and I really thought livestock was going to be the one to put us over the top, but I don't think I have time to, to make sense. Barry thinks that at some point the end times are going to come and he wants to have his own food source around just in case. No, I just think it would be so funny to wake up like that Saturday or Sunday morning to the clucking of chickens. I think people would, would get it. And fresh eggs every morning. I mean, fresh eggs. You kill them. What's the difference between clucking of chickens every morning and Bryan Stone coming out of tents with random women? One's punning. And then there's chickens. I mean, he does really cock and it'll do rooster is way out of that. You know, Hey guys, you see what I got here? This is what I'm looking forward to. Yeah. It's going to be a weird camp. You know, I don't know about most of the group camping and you know, the difference between year to year and how many people that you're, you know, usually with you versus how many are actually going to show up this year, but our camp has been just annihilated and we have a, we're only probably going to have a third of a showing camp, aren't we? Yeah. Third or fourth. Yeah. Depending. There's still some people who may come up, come up for an afternoon only. Yeah. Because mainly because they just don't know how comfortable they feel being around so many people, which is understandable. One of our guys has a, has a small child, a six year old kid and doesn't really know if that's the best place for him to spend his time. You know, one of our camp mates is, is quite elderly. He'd probably in the best shape of all of us. I know, no kidding. Numbers wise, he's a little, he's a little older than the rest of us. Right. There's just, there's just some, some interesting characters at our place that don't necessarily think this is the best idea for them. And I get that. I don't blame them. I don't blame them. And like Tara and her family, they, they didn't get a guest camping, so they're going, but they're going to be out in GA. So yeah, you're the second person to say that. We'll never see them. But yeah, we've gone from, you know, we usually have between 20 and 30. I think we're looking at five to eight. Yeah. I mean, 10 max. Yeah. So do you feel any differently than you did 10 days ago? Yeah. You're gonna turn out safety wise. Yeah. Good or bad. I go, I go back and forth. I feel good about the, as we've said before, the vaccine and all of that. I have a feeling. I don't think we're alone. I think the numbers, even though it's sold out, I don't think we're going to see 80,000 people there for exactly what we're talking about. I think a lot of people are having these internal discussion. But then, you know, you look around and the numbers are going up everywhere. So it makes me nervous. So yeah, it's a view. Have you looked at like the prices of tickets, like on the aftermarket right now, you can pick them up. Like I saw some for like 150 each. I mean, really, I didn't know that. Yeah. So many people are selling their tickets and there's just not demand. Part of that is because also I've just talked to a couple of people yesterday who were in even VIP camping. The cost of camping has gone from about a hundred and a quarter to about a thousand dollars to bring in RV, which this is, this is, has come as a surprise to the two that I talked to yesterday. So was this announced? Is this on the fly? Was this always planned? It seemed to surprise them. Yeah. So you're telling me that a normal ticket before this year to camp in an RV in RV camping was how much? A couple hundred bucks. Yeah. Under around now it's what? A thousand. No, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah. So they're charging a thousand dollars to camp with an RV. Excuse me. I should be very, very clear. That's they've added hookups. So they're now at electricity and some sewer in the same places. The, the, that RV camp next to us now has some hookups and to get those. But is that in GA too? I don't that. I don't know that. I don't, cause I don't know anybody that's bringing an RV out there, but just like somebody's bringing RV is, is not the thousand. So there's got to be somebody listening right now that that's doing an RV. Please tell me if you don't mind DM us how much this actually costs. There's just, there's just no way until I see it with my own eyes. I just don't know if I buy that there's a, it's a thousand dollar ticket. I mean, that's the case. You might, you might as well have bought, you know, the, the ultimate VIP package. Just go platen. Let me make that clear. That's with the hookups, but it's in the, they didn't know that was coming. You know, they thought they were going to what they had before. So yeah. How many people are in the people that you talked to, how many people are coming with them in their RV? Well, that they can break those thousand dollars. That was part of the discussion. The one they they're okay. They can handle it. Um, the other he's he's, that's what he's wondering, you know? Yeah. That's a big surprise. That's a big one. Yeah. You know, um, the, uh, the sewer and water board here in New Orleans, uh, always is the bane of human beings existence because one month your bill will be, you know, $20 the next month, it will be $150 and there's no rhyme or reason for it. Literally none. Yeah. And I, and I listened to these, I listened to these guys, you know, complain about it over and over and over. And I'm like, ah, you guys are nothing. There's no difference between any other city. And then we got a bill last month, $580. Oh, wow. Tell me what we did different from one month to the next to go from $80, 60 bucks, $75 to $580. Wow. Usually if mine does that, it's because I missed it. And so there's a late fee, you know, I'm paying for two months, but no, no, there's, and, and there is no way that you can call. There's nobody you can argue with. You know, it's like, this is, this is sort of like the dollar drop that you just, well, I guess we're paying a thousand dollars now to pay because you've already set this whole thing up. This whole experience for you has been, um, you've, you've crafted it for a year and a half and all of a sudden they drop a thousand dollars. Like at no point was that explained to them. I, I'm having a very hard time understanding this. I hear you. I just know what I was told. I'd be so pissed. Yeah. I just know what I was told now, you know, maybe there was an email and, and people I talked to missed it, but maybe, but, but the communication this year has been a little flimsy, um, from every account that we've heard from, you know, you know, this camping situation in GA or the entry date situation where some people are getting mixed messages going from one day to the next day. There's been a little bit of a break in communication through all of this in the last three to four months. And some is understandable. Some doesn't really make much sense to me. I was going to say some of it is understandable because, um, and again, it's, you know, not, I'm not here to be somebody's apologist. Uh, they've got rail fest this week. They've got Bonnarooo next week, and then they have moon river the following week. And they were involved, some of them in what, um, other, several other events. I think you said the widespread panic thing. That's all the same people or a lot of the same people. So they've got a lot on their plates. Uh, you're, you're not wrong. Um, but I think that's a lot of the reason why. So your feelings base are based basically on the day you wake up and however you feel that day about all of this is going to, it changes that quickly for you. Huh? I right now am, and I don't know if it's a percentage right now is full go. I plan to get in my car a week from Thursday and drive to Manchester in the back of my head is the idea that if I wake up Thursday morning and there's whatever, you know, some new news and I don't know what it is or some new piece of information, I'll not go. And I, I will not be stunned, put it that way. Yeah. And I know that's wishy washy as it can be, but that's just the way it's gotta be. And, and in the other, also in the back of my mind is if I get up there, it's just totally uncomfortable. You know, I'll come home, short drive home, short drive home. And I'm fortunate. I have that option for sure. Yeah. I mean, I can't imagine being somebody who is 12, 14, a flight away in the 12, 14 hours and a flight away, et cetera, uh, getting there on Thursday or Wednesday. And by Friday they are starting to feel a little, yeah. Panicky about this and it not necessarily the most comfortable thing for them. And then they're stuck there until they can get out. Oh man. It's interesting. I mean, there's going to be a lot of camp dwellers. There's going to be a lot of campers this year. I think just, uh, you know, just hanging out. I don't think I'm going to sit here for the next, uh, and by the way, it ain't going to hurt you because the weather looks incredible. Well, it looks great. And all of those times that we said that summer is as bad in September as it is in June. That is true. But boy, it looks like we're going to get a break on this one, which again, this is like five years in a row where the weather has been perfect. No question. Yeah. Keep happening. If it were, it had been scheduled for just last week. Oh man, that would have been a bad, or even this week because it rained so much. But last year, humidity was unbelievable. So yeah, we're getting lucky. We're getting very lucky. Yeah. Middle Tennessee has gotten significant flooding this week. 17 inches in a day. I mean, keep your fingers crossed because there's just a, there's a weird sort of like a voodoo that happens on that farm sometimes with the weather and out of nowhere, you know, I think I, uh, I think I smell a hurricane coming, you know, I'm talking about, uh, with the weather, the cloud covers, I mean, things start, I mean, the weather can get a little iffy sometimes, but man, if this, if this weather forecast holds, this is straight up five years in a row where we were like, well, ain't going to be this good next year. It'll never be this better. We'll never get better than this. Well, you know, we were standing there that tank of the banger show, um, Sunday night and it was, you know, perfect blue sky, sunny, warm, and then out of nowhere, just rainfall. Everybody got drenched. Nobody was prepared. I mean, just came out of nowhere. I blame Biden. I do. I, he should build a wall, uh, and, uh, protect us from these, uh, it's got horrible storms that are trying to take over. The one thing, and that's something that our friend Jeff Cuerva has always pointed out. One thing about it, having, having the event on the farm is we can get weather like that and, uh, you know, sort of shelter in place and then they can take a, take some time off and get back on schedule, which they did. Wait, wasn't it 19, two years ago? Or was it? 2018, they, 2018, they closed center because of a thunder shower. And everybody had to stay at their camp. But then they started right back up two hours later, right? Yeah. It was a couple of hours. And then they said, all right, we'll come back in. There was also that year where, um, and it was this 17 or 16 where the rain hits so hard on Tuesday and Wednesday and made them do like grounds, um, keeping and built that bridge. Like the whole reason they like, we had a bridge there is because they got a major rainstorm. They needed to whip up a bridge real quick. They built a bridge. They built a bridge so quickly because they had, they didn't have enough plywood and hay to get through the rest of the weekend. Right. And the, uh, typically they would camp you, you know, in grids and this thing was, they had to reconfigure everything. So it took a while to get everybody in. So rain, rain can sure change things for sure up there. I know that we have friends that are still cautious about everything and not willing necessarily to commit to some of this, but you know, I, I do feel like, um, I'm okay. I feel pretty good about it. And at the end of the day, if I don't feel comfortable going into the masses, I'm just going to hang out. I'm just going to hang out with the camp. And um, you know, it might be a lighter year this year than, than normally that I, that would try to push. And you know, I think I'm, I'm coming to, I guess I'm coming to that conclusion and, and what's the word I'm looking for. I'm, I'm being okay with it. I'm starting to become okay with it. Huh? Coming to grips. I'm coming to grips with it in my own head. Um, that, you know, maybe I just missed something. And I think it happened when Lollapalooza, you know, I did that just disaster Friday night at Lollapalooza where, you know, I stayed out until four o'clock in the morning. I was around way too many people. I found myself at a nightclub sneaking teenagers in. Uh, and that was the moment where I was like, I overdid it. I don't want to put myself in this position again. And it was so bad. I didn't even go to see Brittany Howard's after show the next night. That's how much that experience changed the rest of my weekend. So yeah, I think that I, at this point, if I miss some stuff that I really want to see because I just not there, I'm okay with it, I guess at this point. Yeah. Which, and I know we're going to get to it, but that's a little bit what was on my mind when I did my schedule, which we're going to, which we're going to talk about. Yeah. Mary quarters picks. It's a big day. Yeah. But, uh, how about, how about, will it change how you see a show? I mean, you're a front of this, you're a front of the stage. You're an on the rails guy. I'm comfortable in the back. Uh, you know, I'm very, I don't think that I can call myself an on the rails guy that requires somebody like dedication and work. I'm the other side. I'm show up and stand at the side of the stage guy. I, I can't act as if I'm some sort of lifer who is, you know, beating people and elbowing through to get to the front of the stage. No, I saunter in, um, I've gotten no cares in the world and I just stand there at the soundboard. I can't. That's fair. You're like to be upfront, but you're not that guy that elbows himself through the crowd. No, I don't like those people. No, I made that clear. I'm the loser who's getting escorted to the front of the stage. I can't now it will, that it will change things. I mean, there's no doubt about it. You know, am I in the Foo fighters pit and starting to feel a little iffy, maybe I don't know, but you know, uh, I'm totally willing to keep my mind open in one direction or the other that maybe I'll be okay. Maybe I won't. Yeah. I'm probably just going to stay in the back, but I've never, I think I went, I was on the rail for one show. Yeah, I got you. Yeah. But what was the show? You got to tell us what the show was broken social scene. Oh, okay. I was going to say it was all by himself. That's why it got to yeah, it wasn't a, yeah, it wasn't a big show. It was easy to get up there. Yeah. Well, wait till dashboard confessional happens. Talk about being on a rail. Yeah. That might change my mind. You know, uh, so the, uh, the other piece of news that happened this week was, uh, uh, our guy, my guy, Josh is going to be on the line up. The big addition was cautious play. Um, I will say this, um, and this is no shot at him or, or the band, but, uh, we've said this before, certain shows just work better, um, in a nightclub, uh, or in a tent than on a big open aired stage. So, so long as this is in a tent, it's going to do well. It's going to do really, really well. Um, it's a show that, that just listen to the album, give, give deadpan love a shot. I think it's really, really solid from front to back. And, uh, the show is, is a lot of deadpan love and I like it. I like it a lot and just going to get better by the way, too. That's the other thing that I'm really excited to see because from Lollapalooza to today, or at least to Bonnarooo, I mean, the show is just going to be better than it was. I mean, it was better the second time I saw it and that was just a day later. So, um, you know, they're, they're figuring it out on the fly and I kind of like that part of it. I kind of like seeing bands on multiple days in a road to see, you know, how they're feeling that day and how that affects, you know, the set list or a certain solo. I kind of like that kind of stuff. He's Friday at five on that tent. Isn't that the same spot almost identical that Leon Bridges was three, four years ago? Boy, I don't know. Yeah. So somebody, somebody's much better at the, the, I want to say yes, but if it, if so, it was terrific. I mean, it was to your point, it was great. Okay. So let's get into Barry Courter's schedule. Barry Courter has put together his picks. And, uh, the, the things that he wants to see at Bonnarooo. Uh, how are we setting this up this week, Barry? How are we going to go through the lineup? I did mine differently. Uh, Taco did his last week, which I thought was terrific. It was thorough, uh, very involved. We had a lot of fun and he was going to be one tired individual. Look, Taco knows I loved him, but it was absurd. His schedule was absurd. This he had, he must have listed 35 bands that he's going to see. You're not doing that. There's no possible way. There's no way. No. So it was a good show. It was a great show. It's one of my favorites and it, it set the stage, but it made me think I want to approach it differently. So, so how are you approaching it? I am approaching it as if I was there and the reality of what it's going to look like. So I broke it down basically into three groups. The acts that I'm, that are my must sees, my walk-bys, and then my surprises that I hope so fit somewhere into those. And we can also go day by day, but so how many must sees do you have? Cause taco had 20. Okay. I have 10. Okay. So you have 10 musts. How many walk-bys? About that same 10 WBs. Maybe 12 looks like 12. Okay. And then the rest are just sort of hopes and dreams. Yeah. If you get lucky. I have about seven that are, that are new to me that I want to, and the, some of those repeat. Like I've got Bristan Moroney is I'm counting as a new to me, that type of thing. Okay. All right. So you, you drive the ship here, however you want to go, let's, let's go through it and see who Barry orders seeing a vinyl. My must sees and they're not broken down by day. We can go back and look, but Bristan Moroney, Larkin Poe, Devin Gaffillion. I do know those are, we just, we just sailed through an entire day. Hang on. Okay. So Bristan Moroney is a must see. Why is Bristan a must see for you? I just like it. I just like everything I hear. Every time I hear it, it sounds new and it sounds fresh and I hear something new, which is unusual. I like, I like Bristan because I feel like we're, we're getting him. This is one of those artists that you're getting right on the front. Now you may not know any of the songs now, but at some point he's going to write a hit. He's going to have a song eventually, and it's going to be a massive hit. And he's got, he's going to get there. He's going to get there. And I like the idea of seeing him on this side of it. Yep. Absolutely. And that's, that's the fun of the Thursdays. We've said many, many times he's a, to me, he's a perfect Thursday find, if you will. Yeah, I agree. But then you have two, you have two more Thursdays. Yeah. Larkin Poe is not new. They're certainly not new to me. They're from Calhoun, which is about an hour from here. So I've known them for years and years and years. Why is Larkin Poe a must seek since you've seen them a hundred times and you will see them another hundred times? Because I saw them two years ago at Riverbend and they, again, they surprised me. It's very guitar heavy, very rock and roll. I just like it. They remind me of, and I'm not sure how you pronounce their name. Haim is a haim or haim. That's what I thought. They're like that. They just have that real rock and roll attitude. I like them. Okay. And then Devin is a, is a must see because he is a friend of the show. And he is so, that was one of my favorite shows that we've done. I just like him a lot and I like his music. And again, all three of those I can listen to over and over and it doesn't feel, it doesn't feel tired. That's unusual. All right. Another must see. Another must see. And this is just because MDU, Mokhtar. We gotta go to that show. I think that we all owe them a debt of gratitude and showing up just to say thanks, I think is a, what if, what if like, and it's good. What if MDU Mokhtar ends up being like a 10,000 person show? I think it's gonna be huge. Like we all start saying to each other at camp, guys, let's just go there. Let's make the trek. Let's, let's battle the heat. We'll go there. We'll say thank you. Give him 15 minutes and then come back. Yeah. Golf clap. That's what I would do. That's what I'm thinking. Okay. I don't mind getting up, taking a Bloody Mary out and then, you know, it's first show a couple minutes with them and then come back. Turquoise. That, that, that is quickly becoming number one on my don't miss show. Wow. We are halfway through your must sees and we haven't even gotten to a headliner yet or a sub headliner or tertiary headliner and we're halfway through. Okay. Yeah. And then, uh, why is this closet? Why is that a must for you? Adrian blue. You saw them, but you didn't see them with Jerry Harrison and Adrian blue. Yeah, this is going to be a completely different show. Yeah. They're doing remain in light, which is a very important talking heads album. And to see those two with Turquoise, which if people don't know who Turquoise are, they are terrific. They are very talented musicians and to have them with these two doing this album is, is going to be really cool. Okay. So it's definitely for me. All right. And then, uh, this one, I just have to, I gotta go see taco at dashboard confessional. This is the strangest must see lineup. I'm getting very concerned that this is going to be just things that service Barry. Uh, I didn't, I didn't think I would end up on your must see list. Twice. You're on here twice. I'll go ahead and I'll go ahead and give it away. Uh, I gotta go to little baby to see if we see you on the big screen. So, so, oh yeah. Remind me what the little baby thing again is, you know what tacos two skills are. What are you right? Right. It's a PBR and identifying babies. Yeah. And so, you know, last, at the end of the show last week, remember we, uh, we figured out we've, we've got to somehow get taco to that show. So we can confirm I got a baby's a baby or not. I got to see if this is a baby or not. So your entire mission is to do what you want. Do you want like the Bonnarooo people to say like, for instance, on the big screen, yes, it's a little baby. We're going to have to figure that out. I think that would be ideal. Oh, if it could be like an official at some point, a slide that plays before the show. Taco says it's a little baby. Yes. It's taco confirms taco confirmed or, you know, doesn't confirm can't confirm. So who, who operate, do we know who operates the graphics in the slides for these stages? We're working. We'll figure it out. We're working on it. Okay. Yeah. It could just be taco. You know, the cam, one of the cameraman finds taco in the crowd and he either, or, you know, either way. Oh, if it, if it gets the pans of taco. Yeah. I'm like a, yeah, I'm like a Roman dictator. Give him my thumbs up or thumbs down. See, these are, these are important goals. The devil wears Prada is hysterical. All right. That's a big goal, Barry. That's a big goal. You're showing up to a show, just hoping that the graphic person by chance happens to listen or gotten word that taco wants to confirm whether or not it's a baby. Yep. Okay. Yep. If we could get somebody on the PA to say, ladies and gentlemen, we understand the PA. We understand that the Lord of Hogan manner, Lord taco is on site and wants to confirm if it's yes or no, a baby. That's right. I'll bring my credentials. Just have him walk out on stage. If you were going to go this far, have taco walk out on stage, address the audience and say, yes, it is a little baby. And then we'll I'll do it. Or maybe if they get the app running in time, maybe they can just send out a message to everybody to confirm a push message. Yeah. Now we're thinking, now we're thinking about what if, what if you, what if, would it be workable if you had a totem that just said, yes, it's a baby or no, it's not that we could, that likely could get on camera that that might be, I like both of these ideas. Yeah. It'd have to be like a quick change totem. I can like switch if it's a baby or not. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's really, it's really just a poll with, um, like a notepad on it that yes. And then you put it up or no. No. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. It could be a whiteboard. It could be a whiteboard on a stick whiteboard on a stick. Yeah. Yeah. Absurd. Absolutely absurd. I can't believe we're seven was at three, four, five, six through six of Barry's must sees. We've got four to go. I hope there's a show here that is not something that has to do with the show. No, there's not. Cause the next one's cautious clay. The next one is cautious clay. Okay. And then food fighters. Okay. Well, first off, let's stop. This is a packed Friday for you. If these are all your must sees, then you're seeing you're, you're going from one till 1230 nonstop. Yeah. You, you said that earlier. Like, like I'm not going to curl up and go to sleep. If I, if I plan my day, right. It'd be, how do you plan your day? I mean, you've got, um, a show at one, a show at three 15, a show at five, um, a show at six 15 and a show at 10. So where's, where's, where's Barry getting a nappy nap? I'll find it. I'll find it. I'll find that. Plus it's not like when I go to these shows, I'm out there in the mosh pit, you know, it's pretty relaxed. You go pretty hard, Barry. You go pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'll make it work. And then I want to see the food fighters. Yeah. I like the food fighters. And I've said, you and I have said, we've all said many, many times, I think Dave growl is the best rock and roll representative going right now. Um, but I'm not a huge food fighters fan. Like I don't have to see it. They're doing a two hour set. I know, but I was, I wasn't a big YouTube fan, but I wasn't going to miss that show. There's just no chance that I just don't find myself. Look, two and a half hours. First off, I know there's going to be a possibility for me to see the food fighters again, but I, this is the first time they've ever even been to Bonnarooo. Yeah. I think it's going to be epic. This is, yeah, this is going to be one of the shows that, you know, we say is maybe top five, top 10 of all time. I think so. And definitely want to be there for the end. I think the end will be amazing. So well, the thing is like, when have you seen Dave growl miss a moment? Whenever he's been given something that he knows is a moment, he's always taken, taken advantage of it. There's never a time where he lets a big moment like this go right past him. He's going to do something really, really special, really interesting. And again, not being a food fighters fan. One of the great shows I've ever seen in my life was at the Metro Lollapaloo's after show. They played for four hours until three 30. They did an entire hour of nothing but Rolling Stones covers that Taylor left the drums. They did the vocals and Dave went and played the drums. It's that kind of stuff that, you know, I, I just, I had no idea that was coming and there's going to be stuff in this that, that we don't even see coming. It's going to be incredible. And that's the kind of thing that we become accustomed to at Bonnarooo that we haven't had in years. We haven't had. And the kind of things that I unfortunately often miss seems like is I, I wander back to camp and then you guys come back and say, man, I can't believe how other creator came out with the food fighters or whatever. Yeah. I, I, there's, there's not a chance I'm missing a missing show. No, me either. Me either. I'll be there. Okay. My final four. And this is, I listened to him because of last week's show, but uncle acid and the dead beats. And this is an interesting one. I like what I heard, but the deeper I have, the deeper I've gone into their, their stuff. There's a lot of sameness. So I really like it. It must be uncle acid and the dead beats. You, you gotta go back to what I said. You could name the show. Yeah. My, my plan is I thought about how I typically do Bonnarooo and when I wake up that day and I don't remember what day they are Saturday, Saturday, yeah, they're fairly early enough. That's weird that they're not a late night. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Well, you're going to have to explain it. Tell me about uncle acid and the dead beats. Are they, are, are they like a Mark or bellet or are they more of a jam thing? What is, I just don't know much about them. Oh really? Okay. Yeah. I rock, right? Yeah. I explained it on when I did my picks there. They're heavily inspired by like black Sabbath. Yep. And yeah. Yeah. So it's a lot of that and that's what it was there. Almost Monday is earlier that day. And then there are three, another friend of the show. You want to go there at 3 15. And so there's nothing else. Are you noticing, are you noticing a pattern here? Like I think that Barry wants to go to shows and for the people that he's talked to so that maybe just maybe they see him in the crowd, they go, Hey, Barry, goiters here. Everybody get a round of applause for Barry. Good. If they're, if they're on our show, Barry goes to their show. Yeah. Thinking that they're going to identify him. They're going to, they're going to pull them up on stage. Like Courtney Cox, man, if you could, if you could pull off an outfit and dance moves, Courtney Cox, Barry, man, I will bow to you. Please do. I am loyal. All right. I'm looking the next three or not. They have not been on the show. Okay. Well, no, I take it back. We just, I missed her. Uh, next is John Baptiste. That's a must see. That's a must see. Okay. And that, and I'm, these must sees are not in the order. Like if I had to Turquoise my morning jacket, John Baptiste would again, that sound is my favorite sound on the entire farm. Yeah. Those two, when you, when you get a soul funk, um, uh, brother, uh, uh, chorus, a, um, you know, maybe a, some sort of like religious moment, like when it's on the wet stage, a Sharon Jones, you know, a Charles Bradley, those are my favorite moments that have ever happened at Bonnarooo. I love that early afternoon. What stage go to church sound. Um, and boy, John Baptiste is, is perfect for that. I wish it was on Sunday, but it's perfect. Yeah. I agree. Uh, I think he's a perfect Bonnarooo act. And I think my neck pick my morning jacket is the perfect Bonnarooo act for me. So, okay. Well, the first question I have for you about the morning jackets that dad, it's three hours. Are you going to make it to three 30? Yes. Okay. You're going to do all three hours. Yes. Okay. I like this dedication. Let me put it this way. I will be there for all three hours, whether I'm awake for all three hours. I may take a blankie and a pillow. You're going to bring a blanket and a pillow. You want to bring a recliner too. You want to just set up the whole living room while you're there. I I'm thinking about it. Get that in. Yeah. No, I'll be there. I'll be there for sure. And then my last one is Lizzo. She's my last must see. That's your last must see. Yep. Okay. All right. That, that is not a, um, that's not an impossible Saturday. I feel like that's, that's workable is nothing on Sunday though. Nothing's a must see for you on Sunday. Uh, I have a note, Brittany and, uh, Leon, Brittany, is that a must see though? It's, it's my maybe must see that. Okay. So you have a next, you have a second tier. Those just those two, the rest of them are, are my next list is walk-bys. Okay. Well, which one is it Barry is Brittany Howard a must see or a walk-by they're floating between those two. I'm going, okay. I'm going to go. Yes. Okay. I'm going to go to both of those. I don't, but it's Brittany just because of, I don't want to listen to you all day long. So I'm going to say right now I'm going, I will not force you to go see Brittany Howard. You can do whatever you want. Uh, and I, I, that Leon bridges show several years ago was just really great. I like him. So, um, uh, yeah, I like Leon. I, um, I think this, I'll put it this way. Nothing will beat that first show and that first album of his for me. I, I, it was just so mind blowing how it felt like a different, completely different world and different time period. And as we said, then, you know, does this guy have a second album? Is he just going to be doing Sam cook stuff again for a second album? And he tried to expand it and he's getting better as an artist and the show is getting more robust. Um, with all that being said, I, I don't know if I love the current iteration as much as I ever will love the first round of it. That's not saying that I don't like it, but I don't know if I'll ever love it as like it's hard to do around. And then I also, I do have in that same sort of, uh, subtext, um, and I, I would like to be there. I would like to say it's a must, but man, it would be very tough. Is that thank you for everything dance party that sort of wraps things up on Sunday night. I have a feeling that's going to be a lot of fun. Well, do you know, I actually thought that that was thank you for being a friend dance party and I thought it was a golden girl, Steve. I was really excited about it until I clarified, I don't know. It's just thank you for everything. If there was like everybody dressed up as Blanche Devereaux, I would be all in on that. Uh, but I think you should do that. You should go. I don't know if it's a golden girl, Steve, Dan should get your best gold Lamay outfit and go. Can we go ahead and make it a golden girls dance party? Cause that would be what I'm after. We can just declare it, right? You can get away with that thing starts at nine and ends at 4am. So I have a feeling that that two to four is going to be a lot of fun to somebody. A taco would probably know better than I do, but do is the robe party still on the schedule? The robe dance party? I don't know if it ever was on the schedule. Is it? I thought people were just saying they're going to, it was always on the schedule at the, at the snake and Jake barn. Oh, um, well I don't even know if the snake and Jake barn is operable this year. I don't think they said anything about it. You got to wear a mask. I know that if you, any of the indoor things inside and somebody, this might be a spoiler. Somebody posted a picture of it. They've painted the barn completely white. And nobody's sure why. Yeah. That's, that's ironic considering they've never painted the actual snake and Jake's. That place has never been painted. Fascinating. Uh, yeah, I don't, I don't see it anywhere on the schedule, but then again, I don't see snake and Jake's barn on the schedule. It's not even mentioned. So nobody's even sure what the purpose of it is. Interesting. Uh, also I don't see a schedule for a silent disco. Are we not doing a silent disco this year? Oh, we, I did see that. You did? Yeah. Can't remember where. I mean, the only schedule that's, that's on the schedule site on the website for Bonnarooo is the Plaza schedule. Is there something that I'm missing? Have I, have I totally? Well, yeah, they've sent some, they've sent the Plaza and they've got the campground schedule, which is part of this main schedule. And then they've sent the vendor schedules sort of independently. Okay. They still, they still haven't fixed the Wednesday night party. It still says, uh, uh, the Rue shoot it's hosted by Rue shoot. It's actually hosted by the Rue bus. What's it matter? We won't be there. We won't. For some reason we can't get in. Uh, I don't know why. I don't know who we need to talk to at this point, but earth to Bonnarooo. We can't get in until Thursday. That is a problem. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think anybody cares though about our plight. I don't think anybody gives a damn, which is fine. They are going to have the Ferris wheel splash a Rue. I'm looking for some of these other things. All right. What other walk-bys Barry Courter has? So the walk rides that I do, I'm laughing. The first one is another that's been on our show. And then the rest of them have not, we will change that. Damn it. Once they hear this, everything changes. Now you've got me focused on that. But the first one is Grace Potter. Okay. That's a walk-by. Yeah. That'll be a very pretty moment. Um, I think it's in the right part of the day for her. I think that she's in on the right stage. Um, really early evening talk about a walk-by, uh, Barry Courter loves which stage artists and shows because he can walk right to the corner of it and walk right back to camp. It is these days that we walk past most to get to where we camp and Barry, if you go by his, if you go by like on Monday when he breaks down all the shows that he sees, 75% of them will be on the which stage or, or the, which is the one that's just the right there by it. Is it this? Yeah. Yeah. Cause they're close because they're on the way. I can actually, I can go leave our camp, see the which stage, see this turn around and walk back back in 15 minutes. And I've seen two acts, two acts, check them out. The lists did that. How was your festival? Man, I saw a bunch of acts. So Grace Potter's a walk by who else you got? And I don't know how to say it. Is it Grung been crung been crung been crung been, and I think, yeah, I think it's the, I think it's the wrong time for them. Um, I know it's weird time, but I, I seeing how Friday night and Saturday night sort of broke down. I see why they didn't make the cut for a late night set, but it just feels like it needs to be at one o'clock in the morning for some reason. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it'll surprise me at eight 45 and it'll still be dark by then anyway. So exactly what I was getting ready to say. It'll be dark. Yeah. Maybe it's a good, it's a good way to get the start. Well, of course taco will be over at mastodon with the master moms. No, he will. He'll be back at camp with a mom. His day is done with the door to the clothes. Yeah. If the bus doors closed, do not bother. Excuse me. Uh, and then a word will pack. Um, I am curious about that too. You're adding more to your Friday, man. These are my walk-bys. I know, but this is a lot. This is like a loop and then I'm back at camp resting up for that long food fighter set. Don't say I think that, I think, I think Barry's going to walk out of the horrible pack saying the words. I'm just, I'm writing this down. Just remember who said it. I don't get it. Um, maybe it's rare that I say that, uh, then mastodon and those are, and any of those are, could start out as walk-bys and I could stay. I mean, that's, I feel pretty certain about that. Uh, almost Monday. Definitely want to go see them. That's that first one. Kingfish I've seen, uh, but they're about the same time. So I, you know, it could, could catch some of both pine Grove. I don't know a lot about, uh, I know you guys both are kind of, oh yeah. Okay. I thought you were into them. I was, I was in love with that first song. That first track that they put out, I thought was just so thoughtful. It was, it was such a well-written song. I loved the vulnerability and his voice. And then I listened to the rest of the album. No, actually I went to the show. I went to the show at music Midtown and I hated it. I hated it. And the first problem that I have is I just don't think that anyone should be wearing shorts on stage. I think it's a problem. I don't care how much of a hipster that you are with your cutoff jeans. I just, you, I don't want to see your legs. Second thing. I don't want to see your phone in your pocket. You know, the outlet, you're wearing such tight shorts that I can see your keys. I see your phone. It bothers me. It takes me completely out of what I'm watching. Do you have a, do you have a list? Do I have a list? Yeah. Of, uh, acceptable things that are acceptable. Not, I know shirtless is right at the top. I want the band to coordinate their outfits. Um, you know, there's just, you're putting on a show. You're not rolling out of bed. You know, uh, the other thing too about the pine grove thing is I just have not liked any song since that first song. I just haven't, there's nothing that connects it. Like the, the songs get a little meandering to me and then live boy, does he sound whiny? Um, okay. Okay. All right. Then when they offer pine grove become chat on the what podcast, I love the band guys. I think, um, you've done a really good, everything's coming out. Right. We need to make a list of acceptable, not acceptable talking to your girl. That's on my list. That's, that's, I'm pretty screwed. Yeah. I've got a, I've got a pretty long list of things that completely turned me off of bands. Yeah. Completely turned me off. Um, we have to go through that one. Yeah. That's a good post Bonnarooo, uh, show. I think it'd be fun. All right. Pine grove. And some people like pine grove and I don't discount that they've got a really good fan base. I think it's way too late for them. They need to be much earlier. Uh, but you know, maybe they'll surprise me. Maybe I'll give them a chance. The boy, the thing too is they walk by. Here's the other thing too, about a set construction. If you have one hit, if you have one hit, where do you usually put it in your set last? Yeah. Or, you know, you 75% and get it out of the way. They'll see that's what they got really good new material. They did it first. And we showed up at the third song and, and I was like, guys, and I drug friends along with it. I was like, you guys are going to love this band. I'm so excited about it. And I waited and I waited and I waited. Yeah. They never played the hit. Typically a band does that if they don't like the hit and they think they're being ironic. Let's get this out of the way and play what we want to play. Yeah. They might be too clever. You better have some really good stuff if you're going to do that. Yeah. All right. And then that's my, that's my complaints about pine Grove. Next one. Um, I gotta be honest. I've, I heard, I've heard on the radio and didn't know it was them and I want to hear more. So I don't know a lot, but I want to go see is camp. Yeah. I like that. I can't, I like that sound. The very, it's got a very, uh, easy on the pallet sonic quality. Yep. And I I'm hoping it's not just one or two songs. That's why I want to go see if it's, you know, well, hold like you were just saying, what we were just talking about. Okay. Uh, Brittany, I've mentioned and then flogging Molly, that's definitely a walk by. I like that music, but I'm not sure I like 90 minutes all the time. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you. It's just, it, I like, um, I like a certain sound to end my Bonnarooo experience. I like a certain feeling to emote from me leaving center room for the last time. Yeah. I don't know if I want that to be flogging. No, I agree. So I'll have to figure that out. Well, I've got a little baby as we mentioned, so that's going to be bit. Oh, and, uh, this one probably should have been up at the top. Um, and I did it. I put them here when I did my list originally, just because I liked them, but I'm not a huge fan, but I definitely will be there. And that's tame Impala. But my goal for tame Impala is to be in the photo pit so I can not only shoot the band, but our friend Daniel, uh, if he's curled up in a ball weeping, I want to be there with the camera. So, and I want to see him. Solid friend you are. I want to tell the friend you are. I want to be there with a camera when you're curled up in a ball crying. I just expected him to be so happy. It's his birthday and he's, this band is so important to him. So I want to be there for that. And I want to see the band. Um, Oh, and the struts. I meant, I missed the struts. Good live show. It's a really, really good life. Yeah. That's a walk by. And that's another one that I think may hold me there longer than just a quick walk by. Sure. No, I mean, that is, that is the story of the struts. You know, you get a few people to stop by and then they're going to be locked in because the show is so engaging. It's so over the top. It's really, really fun. That's what I'm expecting. And you don't need to know any of the songs either. You don't need to know any of the struts songs to have a blast at that show. Yeah. That's what I'm expecting. All right. That's a big list. Yeah. My third group, uh, it's some of those, like I've said, crossovers. I can go probably pretty quickly. Uncle acid, Briston camp and the struts, the two discovery things. These are discoveries, uh, amethyst Kia. Uh, yeah, you love her. Yeah. She's a Chattanooga. It's a her. Yeah. It's a Chattanooga girl. Yeah. Country. She's African-American girl grew up here. Chattanooga lives up in East Tennessee. Now, uh, I talked to her on the phone the other day for the paper, really, really nice. And I want to see, I would love to read it, but there's a paywall, Barry. And, uh, you'd think that somebody who worked at the paper could get me a link to read their work, but no, can't even get that. I'll figure something out. And then, uh, you know, me, I love, I love some, uh, uh, electronic music and I really, I want to go see Tipper. I like what I heard from the name that kept in the back of my head this entire time was he's going to the next one. He's going to say the next one. He's going to say the next dead mouse and you never brought a dead mouse. I know only because honestly I've listened and I like it. Uh, Tipper for me has something different. Um, I haven't listened to as much of that music as I'd used to after, you know, my band, my fat, my guy, bass nectar lost is whatever. So kind of, I haven't really listened to a lot, but I had several people, uh, on our former Patreons and all that recommended Tipper. So I went and listened. I like it. I like it a lot. Okay. So that's me. All right. Uh, that's my list. And also I do have a question and I know, I don't know who has brought this up. So they're going to have to, they'll have to punch me when I see them, but somebody can explain to me who is DJ Mel. She is all over this lineup. And I know that she was there either last year or the year before. Maybe she's been there every year and I don't, I don't pay attention, but she is like the house DJ of Bonnarooo. She's on the lineup like seven times. I don't know. I don't either. And I feel like there's somebody that we know that talks about them a lot and I'm feeling really guilty that I don't remember who it is. Uh, DJ Mel, he is Obama's DJ. Well, that's not true. Yeah. It's what you call and talk a lot. Well, no, I'm thinking this out in my head because I had Obama's, wait, which, which, which Obama DJ is he? Was he first inauguration or second inauguration? Well, that I don't know. You'd have to ask the RooHamm guys. So they talk about DJ Mel all the time. Oh, okay. It's must be RooHamm. But okay. First off, this is mind blowing. This is not a female. No. Okay. All right. Well, that's insensitive Brad and not a baby points. Not a baby. Um, secondly, the, the first inauguration had a DJ that came and played the running of the Chihuahuas for me. And I can't remember that guy's name. So Obama must've had a bunch of DJs. You can have multiple people saying, I mean, I might as well be one of Obama's DJs. It's a big event. I'll find out the guy that played the running of the Chihuahuas that year. And he was Obama's first inaugural DJ. And I, I didn't know a DJ Mel was as well. I don't know. Says it right here on his website, recognizes Obama's DJ. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I said, there it is. DJ Mel. Okay. So there's a second inauguration. It was, Oh, DJ Cassidy. That's who it was. DJ Cassidy, Barack Obama's inauguration, 2009 DJ Cassidy showed up at, at the running of the Chihuahuas and played a set and nobody knew who he was. Is this the one at Warner park at the local park at the pool? No, that was one of your, that was chromio. Oh, no, we had chromio play at a pool and a chromio who is a massive artists now, but they played the local Chattanooga pool and the people that were there happened to all be friends and they all won tickets. We don't know how that happened, but either way, it was just one big friend group. One, one group in, no, I'm sorry, not one group. One couple in particular were having sex in the pool. There was children, there were, and then there's chromio playing to a group of friends while someone had sex in the pool. It was the most batshit crazy event I have ever had in my radio career. Yeah. DJ Kessa, DJ Mel gained recognition as Obama's DJ, the turntable duty. The night Barack Obama beat Mitt Romney in the second term. Okay. There you go. Oh, he did a white house, like Easter egg rolls. Had no idea. But you're right. He's on the lineup like every day. Yeah. He's big. He's all over this thing. Every single day. Now I feel bad that I didn't know who he was. Okay. Well now we've, you've answered it. Yeah. All right. One thing that I didn't, um, I haven't figured out yet, and I guess it'll have to be sort of a game day thing is what we're going to do about the plazas and some of that other stuff and the shows that we're going to do. You haven't left much time to go check out Plaza space. I'm pretty sure we're going to get an interview with Crumbin and maybe some others. And so we're going to have to factor. Yeah. I mean, that's why you guys going crazy with these lineups. I mean, no, that's why I forget how lazy we become when we're there. I didn't. That's why I broke it down the way I did. That's why I have the must sees and then really trying to factor in the laziness and going somewhere else. And then, uh, you know, the, the walk-bys might be on the way to do one of those things. That's typically how I've done it. You know, that lazy is going by the, which that laziness has laziness is going to, it's going to set in. Yeah. It's easy to just over stack because it's been over two years and we haven't done a Bonnarooo or festival really. So you're just, you know, you go ham, you go hams. I go ham. I don't know about your room. I go room. Yeah. I have a feeling once we set up camp, have a beer, it's probably just going to be chill time. That's why I made my list the way I did, because those are the ones I, I will leave camp for as I'm saying on Tuesday. That's a lot of people that you're leaving camp for. I know. I know, but it's pretty strong. Yeah. So the way that I'm going to break it down is what are the, with all the things that you just described, um, an interview opportunity, going to the plazas, being lazy. Um, I'm going to find just the artists that I will forgo all of those things for. So it doesn't matter how lazy I'm being. It doesn't matter if somebody wants to, it doesn't matter if, you know, Lizzo wants to talk to me at that moment. I'm not missing blank. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. If, if she's calling me on the phone, I'm turning, I'm hitting decline just so I can do blank. Can I call you back? I'll ring you right back. Yeah. I got it. I mean, I've tried to do mine, putting myself in camp, knowing how I am, you know, and knowing that the weather is going to be a factor too. Now, if it's going to be that nice, it makes it easier versus when it's 98 degrees. And it's very true. And just a, just a tip on the weather, uh, for those who, uh, either have never been or have forgotten over the, over the course of the year and a half, but bring blankets and hoodies. It gets cold as ice at night. It gets so cold. And you're sleeping next to the ground. Well, when you're not only when you're sleeping, but at, at, at 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, one o'clock in the morning, it's cold out there. And you know, I bring pants, I bring several hoodies and I'm still cold. Um, just a, just a little tip. 10 years ago, that was not the case. Never in a million years ago. I didn't bring any long pants or even long sleeve shirts or anything. I know. I know. It's definitely changed and it's September. So, yep. He's Brad's right. Bring, bring warm clothes. And by the way, do you know that extra hour of sleep in the morning? Cause it's still really dark. Every morning now we get one more hour of darkness because when that sun, when the sun comes up, you're up, there's no, there's no sleeping in. It's too hot. The sun gets beating down so down on you that extra hour of darkness. That's money. All right guys. Anything else you need to get to before we go? No, it's fine. All right. Big week. Next week we'll all be together on the next what podcast all to celebrate. Right guy. Can't wait a live together in the same room. Addition to the podcast next week. Uh, went through my picks and then a Bonnarooo Ben's Bonnarooo time. How long has it been since we were all three recording in the same room? 18. I don't remember. Wow. 2018, 19. I mean it was, it's gotta be February of 2019. Did we? Yeah. Yeah. February. We're even doing episodes in February. It might've been like December or January. Wow. I don't know. Yeah. Long time. All right guys. See you next week. Yeah. We'll see you later. I love you. Bye.