The What Podcast The Real Roo Bus Joins The What Podcast Season 2, Episode 21 Published November 10, 2019 https://beta.thewhatpodcast.com/episode/the-real-roo-bus-joins-the-what-podcast So for the first time in the history of podcasting Two Bonnarooo podcasts Have come together to make history on the streets of Chattanooga, Tennessee I'm Brad Steiner, that's Barry Courter And that's the Real Roo Bus Now, you might not be a How does a bus talk? How does an actual bus speak? I speak on its behalf Okay, that's nice Even when it breaks down Are you crying on the side of the road, too? I mean, are you suggesting that we're like spiritually connected? You might be, with the bus, that would be amazing If you're spiritually connected with a bus, that would be amazing Now that you mention that, I kind of wonder if it's like one of those Pixar cars Like if it can talk Oh my god, that'd be amazing If it could, if it could What would it actually sound like? What would the bus's voice be like? Would it be like Randy Newman singing a song? Or I imagine maybe like George Carlin In the Cars movies Really? George Carlin Like an old hippie, like a hip-hop star George Carlin Like an old hippie? Like Barry Yes, Barry, you're now the official voice of the bus Fair enough, I can do that We can record it, when it pulls up, be my voice Record me some phrases so I can use it like one of those old GPS's Oh my god, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting Oh my god, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting Oh my god, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting It's like every old man Get off, get off Well, it is a 30 year old bus, so that would make sense Jesus, this is pretty exciting I think Daniel and the whole family, the whole gaggle of Roo Bus patrons Have joined us in Chattanooga For a podcast, now go around the whole thing Did you bring your whole camp with you? What happened here? This is almost everybody, we have a few tag alongs But this is the core Roo Bus Crew, why don't you guys introduce yourselves I'm Brooklyn Look at the, there is Brooklyn, alright I'm Sharla, I'm Chelsea Wow, you have much more Like a Like me too, is all I say There's way more females with you guys than ever in our camp site It's a prettier group Than we're used to Wait, who are you? What is that voice? I'm just some guy I just showed up Also from Camp Nut Butter Is Bryan Stone At the Stone On Air Podcast Most pleasant to do podcast in the history of the world In the history of podcast Now, Daniel, where are you guys from? We are all in Huntsville, Alabama Actually just a little outside, in Madison, Alabama If anybody knows where that is And you guys are in Huntsville too, right? I think it's funny you feel the need to clarify that If anybody is from our area, they wouldn't know what I'm talking about I mean if you want to get really specific, we're near Harvest, Alabama How far outside is that? Outside of Huntsville we're about 20 minute, half hour drive That's nothing, alright What kind of gas mileage does that bus get? Actually for the size, that thing is, it's not bad If I was to calculate it out I think it would cost me maybe 60 bucks to get to Manchester and back from Huntsville No kidding, what's the drive from there to Manchester? How long is it? Well, in a regular car, about an hour and a half In the rew bus About day, day and a half Start on Monday I was going to say about 9 and a half Miles of the gallon maybe So, as has been As has been chronicled, last year we had A little bit of an issue with it Yeah, you almost didn't make it last year Oh, we made it, it took a very long time, but we made it Like 9 hours? Yeah, if it was running great We could make it probably 2, 2 and a half hours Thankfully though, knock on wood It's running a little bit better now I'm going to get a look taken at it after Christmas Just to make sure, but I think we're good Well, lucky for you, we've got a bus expert With, at Russ with the bus At Lord Taco Here with his Volkswagen bus right behind us He's actually a bus expert He's literally been keeping this 76 Volkswagen Westfalia On the air, or on the air I'm on the air, on the road for How long have you had it Russ? 20 years That's older than some of your dates Is it a diesel? Ours is, big difference So, this is our bus You brought your bus, you literally brought Your bus with you, you brought pieces of your bus With you So, we have a little miniature Hot Wheels Version of the bus that our good friend Cassandra Davis for Christmas last year I'll take it if we can't take the whole thing And I brought the dashboard Of the bus, kind of, that's got our hand prints On it, and in the same color Paint as the rest of the bus Now, whose hands are on the, what part of the bus Is this, this is a giant, just like a generic Piece of the bus You just ripping things off of the bus and bringing it with you Everywhere you go? It's only two screws man I took that off this morning That sits kind of below the Wheel, and it kind of muffles the engine That pokes out in the back, so We don't have that, you know, breaking our air drums Wow, and so you basically Just take the bus around and just get people to sign it Essentially, right? Well there's no way I could have Driven it around in downtown Chattanooga, so that's the way I'm bringing it here I literally have nightmares about that sometimes I'm not exaggerating, I'll have a bad dream Where I'm driving the bus in the city and I'm like Just freezing out with fear Really? Is it that hard to drive? Oh my god Kanye West just started Jesus is king One of those party Beer things is going on So what we're doing, we are literally outside At a hotel in Chattanooga called The Moxie Hashtag at the Moxie In downtown Chattanooga Literally recreating Camp Nut Butter We recreated our campsite, and by the way This is essentially what we would bring to Camp Nut Butter We try to bring as many couches And podcasting equipment Our giant Bonnarooo heads On a stick, our giant marquee A very disheveled Broken down piece of our marquee But this is what you get when you get a Camp Nut Butter With also 800 square feet of carpeting Mailbox, which was a new addition last year Has anyone brought anything to the mailbox? I don't think so Check it please, see if we got anything If we get drugs again, I'm reporting them to the cops Last year we got What? Suckers And a cigarette, we got one cigarette A lot of jewelry We got stickers We were hoping for Will you be Will RooBus be the first entry Into the mailbox For I guess the 2020 season Will you be the first entry into the mailbox You put something in the mailbox for us Absolutely, I got some stickers for you And some other random things maybe You go on your podcast You basically, you talk Bonnarooo But you do it in a story time fashion You basically tell stories About your Bonnarooo experiences Yeah, so I wanted to leave The news and such to the professionals The two guys that are sitting in front of me That's very loose Way to use the word professional I come down here and there's like a whole like outdoor studio We're basically using an old microphone From the rock band video games on my back porch That's it, I promise One of these days maybe I'll get professional But yeah, I have to give credit to Sharla Let's get her on the mic here in a minute It was her idea, she came to me a couple of months ago And she said one of her favorite aspects Of Bonnarooo was all the crazy stories The things that kind of crop up And people retell year after year And she thought it would be a good idea to kind of chronicle it So I'm like, oh, let's do it in a podcast So really, I mean I know I do a lot of the talking But it was her baby You want to tell us about it? Jane's her nickname by the way I'm sure it was because of a story That you always tell Because I think everybody at camp Especially at Bonnarooo has the story That they tell And it's the one they always come back to every year It's somewhere like when dad reads the Double Verse at Christmas When I sang into the beer bottle during the Red Hot Chili Peppers That Barry told me about Brian, I know you want my first story To be about you, but it's not Oh, okay, sorry Yes, I can still see that image though, Brian Well, I'm absolutely a storyteller At heart, and I know All the good stories come out of Bonnarooo And everybody has their Bonnarooo story And not only that, but just Year after year, there's all the Good stories of Bonnarooo I saw this awesome band Here's my story about the pit At Bonnarooo, but not only that Here's my story about what happened At my camp at Bonnarooo Here's my funny story of how I set up my camp at Bonnarooo But is it usually about camp or is it about an artist? It's both, it's absolutely both It's, you know, here's my Funny story about when I stood in line for Six hours to see my favorite artist Here's my funny story about when I was In line for 27 hours And I got rerouted to the Hillsboro Exit That's not an exaggeration It's really not an exaggeration So everybody's got their Bonnarooo Story, everybody's got their Bonnarooo stories So, you know, I thought it would be a great idea To have people write in, have people Tell on their social media, have people Email us their Bonnarooo stories And we could retell those on our Podcast, and it's really never ending Because year after year People just have Dozens, hundreds, thousands Of their Bonnarooo stories And it just goes on and on and on And we could retell those on our Podcast, so that was my idea And, you know, last year Daniel honestly took a lot Of flack for starting Bonnarooo rumors of artists And I didn't want to do that this year So I really wanted to take a different Approach of what The robust social media was And I really wanted to be more that community Effort, more that Community focused goal So I really wanted to bring together People with their stories and their Bonnarooo community experience So I thought, what a great Way to do this, by bringing together people With their Bonnarooo stories Again, so that was kind of my Idea for the Podcast. So, you guys, why did you get Flack about line of stuff? When did that happen? What happened? I will be totally Transparent, just by nature Of having a big friendly blue bus And, you know, making sure That we're friends with all the rest Of the community, yeah. Like, people come Up to us sometimes, like, hey bro, I heard that So-and-so is playing next year So, like, I had two people tell me last year On Good Faith that the Foo Fighters Were going to play. It turns out that Connections got crossed or whatever And the Foo Fighters were playing a very Close festival, but it was Pilgrimage, not Bonnarooo. So I'm like, yeah, you know I love playing that game, like, oh, who's Playing next year? Yeah, you got one of those emails That I get. They'll be in Tennessee Sometime in the summer. Yeah. Sure. I did Get Good Faith information that Fish Was playing, like, October of the year Before last. That was cool. That turned out to be Accurate. The Foo Fighters, not so much. So I'm like, you know what? I'm not playing this game Anymore. The fun thing to me is, like, the community Stuff. Well, see, that's exactly what Barry And I talk about forever and ever and ever And you guys know this too because you've been around For so long, and of course, You know, if you've been to Bonnarooo before It has nothing really to do with The lineup. It's fun and right about Now is when we enjoy the lineup talk The most, but it really has nothing to do With the lineup. Well, let me jump in because When you were talking, the fact that we are Here in November Talking about Bonnarooo Is the thing that sort of stands out To me. It's become This almost year-round Thing. You know, when we started Talking about doing our podcast, we Thought we would do it, what, for the three months leading Up to it? Yeah, I actually told Barry, I said I hope nobody listens to this Yeah And we thought, you know, Sunday when it ends We'll maybe do a Monday the day After, and then that's it, you know, shut it Down till What, the lineup the next year And we've Done, I mean, it's almost year-round We haven't done so many this year After, but people like you The Bonnarooian, Bonnaroozter, I mean It's this year-round thing Now, right? I promise you that there Isn't anybody doing a Coachella Podcast right now Well, we thought about it, they yelled at us They didn't want us to do that Yeah, we've tried to incorporate other Festivals, they get very Very touchy, because The second that you say, yeah, well it's a Bonnarooian podcast, and we talk about other stuff But, we'd like you to Not talk about Bonnarooian, or call It a Bonnarooian podcast, or we want you To change the name, we want you to Tell anybody who that is, Hangout Festival Oh, do you want to talk about that? We'll edit that out By the way, look at these guys Welcome back, guys, look at these guys So clean, you guys look so Strange when you're showered And adorable Now, the Remind me, is the beer, we met them at The beer exchange, right? Beer exchange Which was massive, what a great time I was stunned as to how good that beer exchange Was, if they do it, now what pod Is that in? It's in seven? Is it changes every year, right? Kevin from Camp Rederoo, ladies and gentlemen Hey guys, what's up? I feel a lot cleaner Since the last time I've seen you guys That was a great time Yeah, it's a great time I'll tell you how dirty we Were, Barry's hair Wasn't gray It was a sort of sandy, dusty Color It's funny because we were looking over some of the pictures On the way over here from our podcast And we were in that tent And it's all sweaty and dirty And then, you're like We're going to go meet up with the family We see a little bit of each other Throughout the years and stuff like that During the Bonnarooo offseason When you see each other Your first reaction is always that Wow, you're so much cleaner now It was fun to see those pictures Interesting when you say the first reaction When I see a Bonnarooo person A Bonnarooian In the wild Outside of Bonnarooo, the first thing I say It just gives me a big smile And I just want to hug somebody Because no other time in my life do I really like anyone But when I See a Bonnarooo person, I'm like, oh just come here Just come here I think we talked about this a little bit last time During our podcast, but The uniqueness about Camp Rederoo And our family that we have is We're so spread out through the US That a lot of us Travel throughout the year to visit each other We've spent like friends giving together Mitchell usually throws a big birthday bash That we go to when we run out When you met Mitch though, you guys had known each other before though No, we didn't know each other before No shit, so you guys met through Bonnarooo Yeah, so funny enough So how I came to Bonnarooo Was through a Camp Rederoo member Who was a part of the original 2012 And we went to high school together And so I went in 2015 Was my first year and then You just instantly click And I met Mitchell that first year and I think We went to his birthday party That October And then we've almost been in separate When we see each other literally year by year I moved out to Salt Lake City Was out there with, I actually moved to Salt Lake City For groups Or a group of individuals that are part of Camp Rederoo Like I picked that city My work gave me the opportunity to go to Salt Lake City Or Colorado and I picked Salt Lake City Because I knew people in that city So it really does become a big part of our lives That's amazing Kyle Your friend Kyle Moved to What, Murfreesboro? I listened to your podcast The other day Yeah, Kyle is a good buddy He runs the Twitter account Bonnaroovian And he is the kindest Like, general soul that you'll ever meet I'm sorry, I don't work in radio He's the kindest soul that you'll ever meet No, you're good, man, you're good, go, go, go He embodies the spirit of like the Bonnaroo Code He is always like kind And like just generally wants to hang out or whatever And he has done a good job To kind of keep the spirit of The community going year round Yeah, he's one of those guys He's all in I mean to the point of moving, he was from what, New Jersey? I think so, yeah He's at Murfreesboro now He's in school Wait, did he move to Murfreesboro for Bonnaroo? In part That's what he said Dude is a class act I could have rented him a room at my house if he needed it He didn't have to do all that I can give you so many people like that That embody the community spirit year round Like, one of our good buddies is Ron The guy that's kind of the brain child of the Rue shoot Celia Is over Rue Fitness There's so many people that kind of have their area For like their specialty area Of Bonnaroo, right? And we were talking a little bit before we started recording Every year we joke around about who's headlining Next year, but honestly It's just a soundtrack to a great weekend with my good friends That I see once or twice a year Hey Daniel, can I ask you, I'm sorry to interrupt You brought up Rue Shoot I am so fascinated By this Rue Shoot and how they Coordinate this every year and get this Massive Whatever the hell it is Yeah, because they don't just do it at Bonnaroo, they do it at other places Yeah, they take it all the way. How do they coordinate Doing this and getting this inside the grounds And everybody gets underneath And it's It's adding a whole other podcast in itself maybe? Yes, either us or you guys should have Them on to tell their story. Can you do it in two sentences Real quick? Oh man, I don't want To speak for them, but basically They had some run ins with security This past year? Yeah, shocking news A massive Parachute in there, but No, I just like wearing a giant cape I'm just happy to see you Really, you should have them on or I should get him on They have kind of Transitioned to being the parachute people Because they're going to so many different Festivals and they do such a wonderful job To spread like positive Messages about mental health awareness Oh no, nothing that I could have Ever said was anything other than a positive Message what they're doing. I just don't know how they get that damn thing Into Centauru every year And I love it. It's not easy I hear Sorry to take over your show There was this moment in my life when I would buy anything that I saw That was really clever on TV And I bought this Thing that wrapped around my body And eventually was like This pouch that you filled with Beer and they called it the beer Belly and you basically just Walked around and you just looked like a big fat Guy, but yet you had Sloshing around beer in your stomach And it had a tube that you could suck the beer out of That's essentially how they get The shoot in. They just shove it into Their stomach and they just act like a big fat guy Where'd you go with this, Brad? I'm not sure where that was going I don't want to sink it down my pants, but I guess for ladies I've seen that there's a bra that does that Nowadays. Really? They have bracelets Yeah, they have bracelets that you can put What's a wine bracelet? Now Mitch says there's a wine bracelet What is that? It's just jewelry that was And you fill it with wine Sweet sweet hooch Sweet sweet hooch I dated her once That's a good band name You did not date her once Let's be honest Okay, so We've talked about Bonnarooo And how your podcast Can we talk about specifically Since I've got a group of Bonnarooo people who are probably Very well into the Bonnarooo Culture and conversations happening Right now. And since this podcast is Happening in November I really would like to address A couple of things Mock schedules Now there's a Person here, anybody here Has actually made a mock schedule Raise your hand You guys made a mock schedule? I was going to say I saw the real Mock schedule I kind of liked it by the way Tell me how you made your Mock schedule Tell me what went into it And then give me what you Were trying to accomplish with your Mock schedule I made one that was more or less a joke That was just in support of who we all Want to see at some point, Miss Dolly So it was a wish list Well that one, if she could play three sets That'd be amazing Availability of artists for 2020 from what I saw You knew that they were potentially Available at that time You weren't just saying I want to see the Rolling Stones You were saying these potential Artists can be available In the summer of 2020 Which I think is a fun way to look That's what we do, we speculate all year long It's fun You can look at who AC is booking Who they have playing around that time Who is not scheduled to play In Nashville, and you can kind of put two and two together And another example is like What's a big artist that is touring That has played other festivals that hasn't played Bonnarooo recently So Tame Impala is one that makes perfect sense Well that's Brad Brand Here's what I'd say Before we get into what Mock schedules Make sense or what don't make sense I need to implore anybody that's actually Listening to this, that's part of the Bonnarooo Culture, if you're on Reddit If you're not, it doesn't matter If you're making Mock schedules I really think it does a disservice To Bonnarooo I think that Mock schedules are a really, really Bad thing if you do not specifically Say this is a wish list And I'm saying it for a reason Expectations get completely Out of They get blown out of the water Expectations do not get put back on To Earth, and then when we get The line up, it drops and we're like Well this sucks Well this person I thought we were having Miley into Rihanna, into the Foo Fighters, into the Rolling Stones I thought they were all, let me do a thing So I did a little bit of math and I called Some people in the industries that got The numbers I found a Mock line up on Reddit I don't know who made it, I really don't know who made it And I'm going to go through one day of the Mock line up Okay I'm not going to read the whole thing that they did on a Saturday Because it was a random Saturday Against the Machine, Vampire Weekend Kid Cudi, My Chemical Romance, Lizzo, Brittany Howard The High Women, Danny Brown Local Natives, Perfume Genius That's an entire festival Guys, like that's an entire weekend Right? Do you know how much Just that day Costs? 5.5 Million dollars 5.5 million dollars in one day They do not have a budget for 5.5 million Dollars, and I'm going to go you one step better If you put My Chemical Romance On a Mock schedule I want you to know that it is going to Cost you 1.5 million dollars to put My Chemical Romance on the festival line up What did Cardi B get last year? And what was Her placement on the poster? What was she, 5? Was she on the top line or the second line? Okay, well Cardi B got $400,000 last year Do you think that they're going to sell Tickets putting My Chemical Romance at $4.5 million on that line up's top line? You think they're going to sell any tickets that way? I don't think so So, again, these Mock line ups They're fun, they're really fun But please, I hope there's not a human being Ever taking them seriously I hope that there is somebody saying to them This is just for fun, this is just Because by the way, this Mock line up that I saw It was great, but it also had The next day, Rihanna, Dolly Farton, Damon Fowler Oyster ahead and run the jewels And they're $4 million So I'll tell you one reason I think people do that Is we're able to look at past line ups with Rose colored glasses If you look at like 13, 14, 15 You see a lot of bands that weren't as expensive Back in that day And you think, oh, well they can book acts like that again No they can't That's exactly right Whoever on Reddit is posting These snapshots back to the schedule Like Saturdays of 2012 Or whatever And you can go down and see like the national On like The who's stage You're not getting that anymore That's the whole point of kind of what You and I have been talking about for a year Is sort of this, the reality of this How it works, how these festivals work The thinking behind it We've had Jeff Quay are on a couple of times And he's been so insightful Sort of giving us this Insight on how it actually Works, you know I think your point is right But it is a wish list We all have our wish list And I think you hit it right on the head We don't think about What they cost this year You know? It is a great point Danny makes a great point because in 2009 And I posted this on Twitter earlier 2009 We all, every one of us I don't care how many people say that they did They missed Adele Adele was on the line up in 2009 And I read the Rolling Stone article earlier today To a quote unquote Smallest crowd That's heartbreaking And if you put Adele on the line up right now She's going to cost you about 2.7 million dollars So I'll give you a similar Story, since that's kind of our deal Storytelling, we went to go see Post Malone in 2016 There wasn't much Of anybody there And it was a bad show He was also, Les if you face tattoos by the way too Yeah It was a bad show because basically every hip hop show is terrible No doubt about that I'm not kidding A similar story I found out just because of YouTube We like watching Bonnarooo videos Walk the Moon literally won a contest To show up in 2012 Or 2013 They had a music video where he enlisted his Grandpa, the lead singer And was like, we just want to go to Bonnarooo Anybody that's on the who stage I'm going to rip the bandaid off And just say it If you look behind the curtain Anybody that plays on the who stage Plays for free And I don't really like saying that And the other part that I've got to make sure That I've talked to somebody about But they even have to bring their own gear They have to bring their own gear And they have to pay for Anybody that's traveling there Which really sort of stinks I've got to figure out We can talk to Quaeyar about it We can talk to somebody at Bonnarooo about it For a pay to play On the who stage And especially the spots that mean so much To people like the Black Keys The Black Keys would not be who they are I don't think If not for the who stage in 2007 Well let's be clear We don't know that they're not paid They might be paid something But they have to pick up a bunch of the expense They would have had to pay their They might have got a couple hundred dollars As a fee, but the expense of travel Was way too much for them to cover So I can attest to this a little Our mutual friends, repeat repeat Played the who stage two years ago They played the who stage a couple of days After they played the bus for us And we helped them set up when they came in And it very much was A DIY thing for them They came in their van and a trailer And that was it, they had to do everything themselves Not just for us, but for the who stage too Yeah, it is a weird It's a tough thing, but when you go to the Who stage, when you go through the list Of people who were there, and back to your I think it was a really really good point The people that you That are there and you look back in the past And there's five years ago, oh my god The national played The smallest stage at Bonnarooo If you had to find your biggest Miss If you had your biggest Bonnarooo miss, who would it be? Like how do you mean? The show you didn't go to Matt and Kim It was this tent Right, it was this tent And it was a Thursday Or Friday, it was midday too I remember being very very hot They do a great show It's a very lively And he was out in the crowd Or she was out in the crowd playing the drums Carrying the drums Biggest miss, Daniel, who do you got? The one that immediately comes to mind I think was 2015 I missed Tycho, is one of my favorite I think was 2015's The iconic acts, they played a late night show I was just looking at the schedule the other day And I think I must've just crashed that night I know Barry's Tom Petty Do you know why he's Tom Petty? I know exactly why he's Tom Petty My daughter called At two in the afternoon And said I got us in the pit, you wanna go? And I said yep, and then I sat in the chair And I said I gotta go home, I'm done He sat in a chair That is why you missed a show Of an artist who you'll never see ever again I sat in a chair Well I don't really have a story for myself But my best friend, Amanda So she went when the Beastie Boys played Except she fell asleep Just fell asleep Fell asleep with the Beastie Boys? Yep, fell asleep and just missed it They would be second or third I saw that show, but I didn't know I didn't know that they were going to Third, I saw that show, but I Wasn't really into it I didn't know them like I do now You know what I mean? I have a bunch of those The My Morning Jacket Who I now adore The biggest problem to Barry's weekend Is a little thing called a chair His entire Weekend gets thrown off because of a chair It's partly true The dad sits at camp and just wants all the kids to come home safely He will miss more shows So he's just sitting around at camp Under a blanket Curled up, all like this Are the kids home? Is everybody here? I put that to bed last year with Gucci Mane at 4.30 In the morning when we were dancing You were bitching about your lower back the whole time No I wasn't either because I didn't feel A lot of pain at that point It was a good night What about you Brad, what did you miss? I have two that are very very embarrassing First off, I'm really upset that I missed King Princess Last year, considering how much I love This album now Brooklyn went to see that show, can you tell us about it? It was fun A 45 year old woman, I'm assuming Flashed her boobs At King Princess It was just like a Real rainbow Party There was pride stickers Going around, it was so wonderful So And I hate telling the story But when I was Before I do what I do now Which is live in the top 40 world I had to run a rock station And believe me, this rock station sucked There was nothing that Made any sense about it But as a guy Who thought that he knew what he was doing For a long time Me I thought that I was I thought I had my finger on the pulse 2010 I look at the line up and I see this band called LCD Sound System and I don't give a damn I don't know who they are I don't care And then I started listening to them a few months later And I was like Oh my god, this band's amazing I gotta see them I go online and I find out where they're playing next It's Madison Square Garden, it's their breakup show I totally missed LCD Sound System for a decade And I blew it Because they were on the 2009 or 2010 line up I didn't even sniff it Didn't care, didn't want it Had no interest in being there I missed LCD Sound System So when they came back in the year that we all talk about Being the most embarrassing line up And Crowd in Bonnarooo history I look back at that as my favorite Bonnarooo Because I got to be there with literally No one else Can I interrupt the what podcast And the real Roo Bus podcast It hasn't stopped you yet Didn't Paul McCartney Play in 2013? Yeah I didn't You didn't go You have to walk away in shame right now Bye I was there Why did we let him in? Why did we let him talk? I'm just trying to clarify The reason why Bryan Stone lives in infamy And kept nut butter is because he showed up one time And it happened to be the Friday night after McCartney And he was on Cloud 9 Every one of us were losing our minds And he looked at us like Overrated I hated the show It was stupid It was every other show you've ever seen of Paul McCartney He played the same show in Memphis the next week We looked at Brian and we said Brian did you watch it? Can you believe he played live and let die? He played live and let die I said Brian do you see the show? Nope I said a camp To be fair our camp is about 100 yards from the stage So yeah I heard it He played live and let die can y'all believe it? So it was that And then 2009 Al Green I missed Al Green Because I decided to Chase a girl down The path and we decided to go see Ani DeFranco Instead of Al Green Who no longer I love you more now Than I've ever loved you before I love Al Green Because I chose Ani DeFranco So I got a quick story to tell you about LCD Sound System I already went through this story on our podcast A couple weeks ago that was my favorite year Of all time I know that the crowd sucked That year but it made for such a good Vibe and it was easy to get around like me and my buddy Brandon Went up front That LCD Sound Show Was amazing Now my follow up story to that was About 2 or 3 years later we go to The Voodoo Festival in New Orleans Pretty good city festival we had a good time It was a good headliners that year it was LCD Sound System The Killers and The Food Fighters We go walking around in the French quarter The next day after LCD Sound System Show just looking for a place to eat Or whatever I walk right by James Murphy who's taking a stroll through there And I pass him and I'm like I ask Sharala and them I'm like should I go Say something oh my god I don't want to be like a dork or whatever But I was like you know what I'm never going to get This opportunity again I'm going to go say something I went up next to him I was keeping It cool at first I was like oh hey James I want you to know that was a great show last night man That was really good he was like oh I appreciate it And I was like dude I was at your show at Bonnarooo like 3 years ago I was having such an awesome time He was like oh that's your job man Yeah it opened up the sieve As soon as you turn the water on everything Came out right That's a whole lot better than good work Oh I knew that was going to come up I knew you were going to say that So I've told this story before It breaks my heart to tell it But it is my Bonnarooo story That you guys talk about all the time It's Billy Joel It's Sunday night And I'm dying to get out of there before Billy Joel I just can't I can't do it I can't do it And Spoon happened right before them On the What Stage And that's when I left and I could have been on the stage with you guys Thanks Brian that mattered a lot to the story Go ahead Brad So We got lucky and we were standing on stage For Spoon and behind the What Stage There's this very very long Ramp that takes you back into artist I mean this ramp might be 150 yards it's really really long And There's one way down and then there's a Thing that separates you and then You come up there's nobody coming up The stage this is after Spoon Spoon's done Billy Joel's next A whole crowd Of people are walking down the ramp One figure Just keeps getting closer and closer to us As it comes up the ramp One figure closer and closer Closer as it gets closer I look at my buddy Nick and Hillary That's Billy Joel Billy Joel's walking up the ramp Nobody's talking to Billy Joel Nobody's stopping him Nobody's saying hello so I said screw it and I stopped Billy Joel I was like Billy Joel Great work And he said Thanks And walked straight past me It was in that moment I realized I've got nothing to say to Billy Joel I've got no conversation You're not not You're the piano man I've got Christy Brinkley I've got no conversation for Billy Joel Other than Great work So you guys get to live in Valhalla for like The Bonnaroo weekend back there where you are more likely We don't like talking about it because somebody's going to Pick it and riot us You guys are media everybody's going to put two and two together But you get to live back there where you're more likely To run into artists so don't you have like A bullet point or two in mind for your favorite ones That you might run into His point is he doesn't like Billy Joel I think It's not that I don't like Billy Joel it was fine He's a fellow Met fan but I love him but I don't Have anything to say to him You had your chance But Dua Lipa you were on Cloud 9 We did more than talk So I will say This person is going to remain nameless But we did have a band stop by And sit down with Camp Nut Butter And decide That year to tell me Who is the biggest Alabama Shakes fan on the planet How much the Alabama Shakes sucked And how much they were overrated And how irritated he was About Alabama Shakes Name them Any attention what you want That they should deserve I cannot because they've Been very very good to me Since then It's an interesting We talked before we went on air About the different experiences We are definitely We come at it A different way we're in The IP area backstage I guess You said you didn't know if you'd want to be in the trees Where we are And I can tell you Four years ago we would never Have considered even going out into General camping Oh no That was not happening No but now with all of the changes The experiences and all of that Once we started doing this I think we talked about it several times On the podcast It sounds like a lot of fun It feels like and this is a credit To the people who put this on They have created an event In an World for General admission that is Better than anything that you can get anywhere Else in the festival and if I Headed in me to deal with Bugs, heat, People, germs Whatever We've never seen a bug Kevin's brother does that Kevin's brother sprays for the bug All these new people you don't know Brad as well as we do But let them continue I'm too neurotic to live out there I can't do it The only way I can do it is in the creature comforts Of being tucked away in a World that is all to our own But with that being said It is really phenomenal out there And the times that I've spent I didn't want to leave Now granted I did But he didn't want to He didn't want to until he did Barry we were talking about this earlier The way that the festival world Has gotten in the past couple years It's tougher to book good acts right It's tougher to have a line Up that's that much More festivals, more demand But AC has done a very good job To realize that their strength is In the camps and the community They've built those new barns And they've had really cool people like the house Of yes out of New York come down And do really cool stuff Yeah can you tell us real quick about that Chelsea that was one of your favorite things right Yeah I had this whole like New Orleans parade At the house of yes but it was like all Just like rainbows and like The band was playing I don't know it was really cool Pride parade Yeah it was awesome No is it the same parade that used to happen 10 years ago 15 years ago that used to go Through the festival they just move it to The house of yes I think they move it around I mean it's still sort of the house of yes And then I guess like this big kind of party Type thing then they just kind of just moved It around everywhere so I don't know it was fun Now because it seems like a natural segue But Jeff Quayar I had reached out to him A week ago to see if he had some News that we could maybe announce For this podcast They've been so good to us And so helpful And he called this morning actually And it's not you know I knew He wasn't going to give us an artist Or anything like that But he said to your Point and to what we've been talking about Every year they address something You know they've planted trees They've planted grass they've redone The added the bathrooms And they when the festival Ends they all gather and they think What do we need to fix and this year he told Me today that the The parking or the Traffic not From the freeway but once you get Past the sort of security How do they get you to Your campsite is their focus And I actually had asked him I said Is the delay I figured it was the security And he said no that's really not It they can add lanes The issue is there's 88 camping there's VIP Camping there's group camping But everybody comes in You know in the line and then it's How they filter them out so I mean to me It's one of those things It doesn't sound sexy But if you're sitting there in that car It's needed exactly Is it needed because you have to explain to me How bad it is because I don't Know is that an actual Issue yes it definitely was A big issue this past year there Was a huge line of people Back to 80,000 people yeah for one thing Well there was a ton of people that were backed Up on the interstate this past year And we spoke to people who dropped by the Bus to come speak to us that said they Waited more than six seven hours That had been unheard of for many years Now Before we had the bus we would drive in and it would take Like an hour or two at most but we talked to a lot Of folks that got frustrated beyond Belief this past year so for Jeff to say That that's awesome I think that is one of the biggest Needs yeah and we look Mitchell's Here I think he's got a word has something to add So we have a contingency That comes from Chicago each year And Kerry arrived At the gate at the gate To get in line at 11 15 11 20 And she finally got to us At around 9 30 a.m. That was Thursday Friday morning that was That happened this year at Bonnarooo Because the line was that intense Ten hours roughly And now to go 400 yards well I'm not sure how long the Line was because you know it stacks Up out there on the interstate But she got in line at around 11 15 because we saw it in the group chat And then it was just a long List of extremities That she screamed about yeah so this Is exactly what Rightfully so if I had a Group of women that screamed at my extremities If I can't Understand these guys know Much better than I do you fill out a form At the end of the year right You do what is your would you like What you do not like yeah What are the survey yeah they Can do so many surveys right but How do they actually know these things Are problems that's what I like to talk Jeff about if we had Jeff Or somebody and they also we Know because they do our moon river here And some and Forecastle this is what they do Those guys Are walking around noticing Where the lines are Where the bottlenecks are the problems Are there's only so many Things that they can address like you just Said it you know each year But This is this one has jumped To the top of the line I guess so If there's a thing that I've learned how much I love About Bonnarooo And Festival Life to begin with Just overall when we Started doing this I didn't know how much I loved Infrastructure as much as I love it It is so fascinating to Me how they can find a problem identify It and then figure it Out either on the fly or then The next year and so what I'd love to Talk to Jeff or insert person here from From whoever is working the infrastructure part Of it I'd love to know when they identified A problem how they found it and how are They then going to fix it that is fascinating To me so yeah that's the I think that's The reason I brought it up because it's that level Of detail that makes us all Like this festival so much In that vein and I am very glad to hear That Jeff is making that priority In that vein one of the things probably The top thing that I would say is The biggest room for improvement And I love Bonnaroo I'm critiquing it Because I love it but the biggest thing I could Say that needs improvement is The integration with folks Like Kevin from Camp Red Roo with Supergroup with Roo Shoot We talked a little bit about the issues that they had Getting the shoot through security We've been thinking about it And through the interaction That we have literally every day Sometimes with the general community The folks that keep coming back and back We're keeping the conversation going Probably more so maybe even better In some cases than their official channels do We would love to have better Integration with them to Work with them on our events we hosted Repeat Repeat two years ago the folks With Red Roo are having literally A thousand or more come in for the Beer exchange and We understand AC has a ton of things They're working on Moon River here they're doing That festival at the horse track In Kentucky and things like that We realize that they have limited resources But just having a line to talk with them So we can have infrastructure to support what we're doing I think that is probably The biggest improvement because as I said before It's not necessarily the line up That keeps us coming back I'm coming back to hang With Kevin I'm coming back to hang with Mitchell it's the Community that's the biggest aspect. Well they're so dreamy Look at them. Yeah. Yeah so one of the You know one of the things that I Wanted to just interject and again this is Not a complaint towards Bonnarooo Because you know they do put on this and they do It really well but you know over the years As I've had to wait in line And then there's been times where I've got to get in early With Bonnarooo's blessing to allow us In early but you know we We got tracked by the Local you know they had the Local PD get out that are directing traffic So it's like their mission doesn't get All the time Communicated to those that are locally helping So you know that seems to be some of the problem And again this is not bashing them but you know We've made it all the way to the We got told to go to the East Toll booth and then when we got To the East toll booth we were like oh you Got to get back in line so then we got back in line For another couple hours to get all the way back To the West toll booth so like Daniel was Saying you know with some of these groups and stuff like that One of the biggest things that It's good to hear that they're going to To be really focusing on that but you know Maybe have you know additional You can't cut down gates to probably Make more entries but you know make Make ones where if you're going to be in This side of the Campgrounds you're going to enter this gate if you're going to enter on this side of the campgrounds That would just make so much More sense and I mean I know they do have A few other gates to do that so You know I think it's just that confusion Where you know maybe it's the local Help that's pushing people over but You know I think just open it up And say it okay you know if you come To this side you're going to get assigned to this side of the campgrounds If you're coming in this side go to this side of the campgrounds And then maybe it would Tool up that you know you know Traffic once you get past the security Yeah that was my understanding was as He said there's still going to be delays they're still going to have to go through security And all that but Figuring out a way you know If you're ADA camping Or you're group camping To better filter it through so It goes a little bit quicker so I mean to me Like I said it's as we've talked About so many times All the little things add up to your overall Experience My bet is that the 12 hour Person the person that we Didn't think about that the rest of the weekend My bet is It didn't even occur I don't know man that's a long time I don't know I heard people pretty salty and that's why they Left early on Sundays because they were just They did not want to get stuck in the Have you had a year speaking of stories have you had a Year where you just said screw it I gotta get Out of here you know the last Year when it rained When it stormed In 2018 I'm The one that I will I was in the military I've been out there I've been in rain Sleet snow about just about Everything you get I mean the desert in Iraq In the summertime 125 Degree heat I've been Through it all but is it as bad As me wearing two pair of pants right now I prepared for a much colder Day I'm wearing two pair of underwear but Being waterlogged you know It raining what overnight Saturday Night into Sunday morning and just being waterlogged We stuck it out Throughout the day and then when it started storming And getting really windy again that evening Thankfully my brother does live five minutes Down the road from Bonnarooo and we were like you know what We're packing up and we're Just going to go to the house because you know There's just so much that you can do in Rain and we knew that time of the day was this This was after the headliners On Saturday night so we didn't stick out The party we usually have because on Sunday Night we usually try to have kind of a blow Out bash you know it's like that Big send off in Camp Ritteroo because you know You're not going to see your friends again for another year And we just couldn't do it There's a small group of us were like You know what we're going to go to the hot shower And get the hot shower early I've told many many people I can handle the heat The rain at Bonnarooo is the game changer Because you can't get away from it You take all that into your tent With you and your clothes and yeah That's the one I worry about No I would never be able to handle Mud and rain oh no that would kill me Here's my problem with mud Sometimes it might be shit So I don't really know the difference sometimes No I've never bailed out at Bonnarooo But my first and second year I just did not know what I was Doing and I left on Sunday And it wasn't because I was tired of Bonnarooo or anything I just literally did not know what I was Doing just literally like was A newbie and I was like oh well oh yeah We skipped Tom Petty the first year Yeah the first year I was at Bonnarooo I skipped Tom Petty just because I honestly Did not know what I was doing No I love Tom Petty it was a mistake Oh yeah I know that now But I was just like oh yeah I need to get home I also really enjoyed how during the rain Especially you know we're talking about The rain in 2018 it was like The ditches That they just put hay on top of And the hay just floats on the water So it creates the illusion that there's actually Hard ground and just watching people go See y'all I mean My first one was 15 Years ago or so What they have done to that site To fix stuff like that The one year I went The rain created little Riverlets yeah in between the what And center and then as every As 80,000 people walked Through it over time This little two foot became 18 foot became Shrek Swamp yeah and then you couldn't walk between Cars I mean it's just so But like and I love you guys But I can hear all of you And I know that none of you Went to Bonnarooo before 2008 Nope and the rain The rainstorm of I think 2003 or 2004 or something like That was damn near the worst thing that's ever Happened to my life and I will never Forget and again this is one Of my stories I tell at camp every year The first year I went to Bonnarooo I screwed everything up I went to the wrong entrance I was stuck out into general Admission and I had no idea what I Was doing I didn't know what camping was I mean if I'm neurotic now Imagine you know 22 Year old me I had no idea What was happening We got there we were miserable Immediately we were so irritated By that night the rain Just hammered us And the rain what year was it Nate That the rain was so it was it was The year of Matthews and friends or something 2004 it was the worst Rainstorm I have ever been in my life To the point where I literally Looked next to me and saw a woman Defocating Into a puddle This is why I was like I can't do Mud I don't know the difference It was The worst I've ever and I said To myself I'm never coming back This place is disgusting I don't want to see these people anymore This is the opening scene of lean on me Where the principals get his head slammed Into the wall I was never coming to And so the guy that I was with he Drove the car so fast while Dead and friends were on I felt as though We were running over tents And what happened karma Hit us we got stuck in a mud Puddle 20 yards away From the exit 20 yards to Freedom I could get the hell out of this Hell hole that was Bonnarooo 20 yards and we got stuck there We fell asleep in the car I was In the passenger seat and I woke up to this brrrr Brrrrrrr Sound and it was a kid From Manchester In a 4x4 pulling people Out of the mud I mean we were when we got out of the car I'm not kidding Our half of The wheel was under mud Half of the wheel it was that dug in There was like you paid the kid $20 He pulled you out I've never been so Happy to get out of a place in my life and I Swore on that day I would never Ever ever Walk back into Bonnarooo And now I host a podcast about Bonnarooo I think my second year it rained And I was in a pup tent and I had an air mattress that Leaked and it was Stundering and lightning and storming and I remember looking at the top of my tent thinking I can't go anywhere I'm either Going to die or I'm not This isn't the Titanic Barry you're overstating No I'm going to get hit by lightning I was convinced lightning was just And then I woke up in a puddle because My air mattress lost all the air And the tent leaked Like yeah why am I doing this I'm like you this is awful It felt miserable there are times in Bonnarooo Where you're like this is the worst place In America why am I here My first campsite I Had the foresight for some reason To throw cheap saw horses And a 2x4 piece of plywood In my truck yeah this is why he's my Dad because he comes over and builds Things like this at my house that became My table but I didn't think of shade So I happened to have my Umbrella you know which is always in the vehicle And so I put the umbrella On that table and bungee Corded it and then we followed It like a sundial To find that two feet of Shade for the rest For lunch you know or whatever That was awful By the way is that the Heaven and Ale Stout it's delicious This is my second one yeah it's Love Supreme It's very very delicious yeah it's good I was going to go to Bloody Mary and then I saw Them pour this spell out by the way if you ever come To Bonnarooo go to the Camp Reddaroo Beer exchange I brought you the Odd Story Which is the right around the corner Now you got the Heaven and Ale Love Supreme You're doing very well The Odd Story Lager the Viennial Lager is very good You're welcome to Chattanooga So my first year coming to Bonnarooo I didn't know I was coming to Bonnarooo until the month Before this was 2009 And My buddy is literally like Mitchell You're coming to Bonnarooo with me we're going to give you A hundred dollars you have to pay for the rest I was like okay And so I go to Bonnarooo And I have no preparation I literally have Looking at my supplies and I have a sleeping bag A really shitty tin I haven't used in like three years End of discussion We're done we're prepped This is like the polar opposite of where you are now Oh it was bad so and I'm looking at Space and there's six of us total In a truck and they go Leave your tent one of us has a Twelve person tent it's going to be great So everybody leaves their tent Behind I buy a bag chair And I have my bag chair And my clothes that's About all I've got so we No one thinks to bring a Big damn easy up none of us And the truck breaks down About a mile away from the entrance while we're Waiting in line and we're like Alright just grab the essentials we're going to get the truck Fixed we'll get that back so the girl That brought the twelve person tent she's like I'll grab My tent just picks it up out of there None of us even flinch To think about the fact that this little Tiny four foot eleven girl Hooked a twelve person tent on her shoulder And started walking we just grab our Supplies which for me is my clothes my bag Chair I got everything out of the truck So we walk all the way In on foot check in get To campsite start setting up and she goes Oh no guys She had left Every pole at the house And this was all Six of us Four went foregone our Entire camping supplies because The holy grail of a twelve person Tent that she brought and so we have an Over glorified tarp and that's Our camping situation our neighbors are nice enough To be like hey guys you can put your Your chairs under our easy up And that's that was after day one Because I woke up in the rain and my neighbor was like Buddy you can Move your chair over here at least Because everybody else they They went and they bought a one of those Really expensive Tents from Bonnarooo's like emergency Shop up front wow yeah I think it's like a hundred and twenty dollars for a Two person sweat box And so I was like fuck that I'm going to drink this weekend I can't spend A hundred and twenty dollars on a box So I slept in the rain In an easy easy in my Bag chair for the first day and then under my Friends from Louisiana's easy up For the rest of it and that was My first experience and I had so much fun I came back I love this story so much because The way that you prioritize Your funds it's It is drinking And then eh Comfort is second because I can buy comfort by the can That's right One more and you're comfortable My god Don Draper would Kill for that that line I find comfort in a can So Biggest mess we've had the The news from Jeff Cuellar And Mock Lime alright I've Got one final question That I will ask Around the table here You know how Vegas has residency acts And you know how Like now Somebody called me up the other day and They said hey you want to send somebody to see the Chainsmokers in the No So Vegas Has residency acts If Bonnarooo had a residency act If Bonnarooo had one act that played Every year it was the same Time every year and you knew it was Going to happen who would it be Warren Haynes I knew it was going to be a My Morning Jacket I knew there was going to be some sort of My Morning Jacket But My Morning Jacket Would be good My Morning Jacket Or Warren I would say Chance Or you know Marcus from Lumpford and Sons I feel like they kind of grew through Bonnarooo House band Just as coked or something I find There's a piece Of the Bonnarooo experience Shut up She's going to be here some year You know what I mean There is a There is a thing about Bonnarooo That I have missed for damn near five Years that doesn't happen anymore And it really bugs me There was a thing in our camp that we All went to Camp Nut Butter Every single year found the same show And we all wanted to go no matter what We don't agree on anything There's nothing we agree with But Sunday morning church At one o'clock on the what It happened every year If it was Charles Bradley it went to Mavis Staples If it went from Mavis Staples Over and over and over I missed church on Sunday On the what stage I know not many people show up That Charles Bradley show broke my heart Because Charles Bradley was my favorite album of that year But nobody came But if there's one piece of residency That I Now there's the Grand Ole Oprys there That is your residency Residency is Grand Ole Opry Every year you know Grand Ole Oprys I want Sunday church back For now I mean I guess they could argue that the Calliope stage is it but that's not us You're going to bother me here It's Calliope Please stop saying this What is it or what is it not I can't figure out which one it is It's Calliope It's Calliope Charlie knows how to pronounce it It's not Calliope It's Calliope I'm just going to say this by the time anybody gets there I don't want to say move the hill By the time anybody gets there they don't care how it's pronounced Yeah that's right If you want to go see the weirdest stuff at Bonnaroo Go there after 3am Gucci Mane, it was awesome So I know we went through wish list Not Dolly Who do you think will absolutely be there Barry Courter Yes sir Daniel They're my favorite I am unashamedly a Kevin fanboy Lizzo Yeah You know anything about that I'll let you know All I know Is there has not been a schedule Made for Lizzo for 2019 Nate's a tool For me The 17, 15 to 17 year old Me really wants to see Rage there this year I don't think it's going to happen but I would really like to see Rage on this machine Why do you think it won't happen I'll put every dollar that I have In my paycheck on it would not happen And that's what I'm thinking too I don't think it would happen but that would be If I'm looking at the landscape of who I want to see The one thing I really want to see I'm going into my Six years And I'm starting to become an old vet at this point in time I really want to see Bonnaroo bring back The true legacy act If they did that this year who do you think it would be I've been saying it might be Springsteen But I don't know what do you think You guys have got to see This is what I got to stop you at You got to start thinking about dollars There's no possible way They're going to bring Bruce Springsteen Tame Impala, Tool Rage on this machine You got to think about money here Of course the logistics And the financials around it I think And that's one of the things that I remember My fond memories of the 15 You go back and look at the line up And you had a true legacy Although Billy Joel, now it makes sense Why Billy Joel cut his set short because he had an interaction with Brad That makes complete sense now Those kind of doofuses Do you know how many people When I got back to camp said Billy Joel is never coming back to Vodderoo He hates Vodderoo because of the one interaction He had with some doper He was going to do an encore but you stopped it from happening Killed it The thing about Rage on this machine Here's the other thing I wanted to say earlier By the way I know that there was some sort of Hubbub about the Coldplay thing That I said Let me make sure I clarify what I said about Coldplay Coldplay is not going to do 2020 and 2021 Because what I was told Is that they do Tours one way They do an album Then they go silent And then they do another album And then they do an arena tour They've done every tour that way Since they were Coldplay So it was based on every single Thing that has happened in the past If it was going to go forward And the person told me that it was not going to be any different Than the past I wouldn't say it's not going to happen in the next two years If they go silent this year Because they just put out an album They're going to wait for another album That means the next album They're going to do nothing but arenas So again Be that as it may It's not a complete out I'm sure they could do thing after thing here and there But based on everything that I was told That they're going to do this exact same Structure that they've done every other album Secondly Thing about Coachella Give me an artist That has done a reunion show At Coachella that has also done At a Bonnaroo Cool, Earth Wind and Fire Found one Now give me a headliner No, it's not Earth Wind and Fire On the Rage Against the Machine level When you go back and see all of the Things that Coachella has done It does not translate to Anything that Bonnaroo does So when somebody says Rage Against the Machine I would love that I would kill for that I think you have a better shot of profits Against Rage Against the Machine So Brad, you're being the voice of reason about Our expectations Because every year our expectations go here And we all get the line up and we're all like Womp, womp So what do you think would be realistic Names for a legacy slot For next year Where did this Diana Ross thing come from? That came from Kyle the Bonnaroobian He's a big fanboy You know I don't know I don't know what the legacy would be This is not where I'm good I don't do well with the guesses I did a mock line up one time Like 10 years ago and it was the worst Thing that I've ever done It was so stupid, I look like a fool So in terms of expectations in the line up Me and Sarah do the same Thing every year We pay no attention to any of the rumors Sometimes it comes across But we wait until the line up drops And then somebody always does the Lord's work And sorts the line up by genre And we just go to genres we like and listen to shit we've never heard of And it's just Christmas every year Even by mocks Kikugaku Moyo is actually one of the best things I found this year We're gonna go see them again Tuesday And they're my favorite show Mitchell, what was the jazz infusion band That you turned me on to I met you there, you were in your skeleton costume last year Oh god The comet comes The comet is coming The comet is coming and the only reason we found That is because I was like Chaotic jazz Let me play on that Psychedelic jazz and just free form Anything jazz, I'll play you a list That's how I found Mastodon Because somebody told me jazz metal and I was like that You just checked two boxes off You get really high Let me just Just to kind of piggyback On what Mitchell was saying When you run these camps We try to stay relevant with the rumors For our campers And for everybody there And you know a lot of it is really just to kind of Try to keep the energy up and everything But I'm much like Mitchell I will not really And Daniel said it best earlier I come for the people and stay for the music I could really care I've been with Bonnarooo lately Let me say this I think that the music industry is starting to change Because you don't see the traditional Album tour, album tour anymore And you know like the festival is being So saturated To me in the last couple years I don't even care who's coming because It's such a toss up at this point in time It's such a toss up because There's no real way to Put it into a formula and say you know what Okay well Tim and Paula just dropped the album Okay so now they're going to tour But no bands really doing that traditionally Anymore and I think you were talking about this a minute ago Like it just, you just don't know And so for us when we run these communities It's just like you know we try to keep The hype up for the participation but Here's what I know I know that stadium tours Arena tours are going to pay a lot more than festivals Because you can do a lot of them at once And one person buys all of them Right so if you're going to do a festival It's going to be a one off and it's usually If you go buy the money you're going to do A festival on an off year Not many people do a festival On an on year of an album Because an on year of an album gets you all the heat Alright so I don't know what that means for most people I don't but you're not getting The Eagles, you're not getting the Eagles It's a three and a half million dollar show It's not happening you know So it's, all I know About the line up is that Every year it always Underwhelms us and we always Are shocked by what Is being paid to the top line And if I can Again going back to what I said earlier My Chemical Romance is one point Five million dollars on the base Are you going to find Anyone that is going to Make or break their Bonnarooo Purchase on My Chemical Romance No I don't think that you are Those guys don't want to be in a field Plus they're not doing many shows And one point five million dollars Exists on the top line of your line up And does That sell a ticket To everybody else So let me give you the example If the line up is Tool Vampire Weekend and My Chemical Romance, do you think that Sells tickets? I don't think so either We're all saying the same thing Kevin is saying The Organizers of these things have Learned the experience Has become as much a part of it as the line up So they don't have to spend They don't need to spend Three million to get Because the money That they're spending out in the campsites that are Experiences by Haley Williams etc. Do you remember back in 2009, 2008 David Byrne Curated an entire stage He curated that tent And he brought Saint Vincent And people that we didn't know about At the time, Andy DeFranco was on that stage And he curated an entire stage Now they're taking that idea and putting it out in the campsites And to me, for the People that live in the GA world, that to me is such A better experience than if Insert person here that I'm dying To see at a show What you guys have created And that's the thing, and I'm sure you get We were talking about the residency earlier and I'm sure you guys saw this On the news as well, where you know You have these residency programs in Vegas where one of the big nightclubs Just shut down because the asking Price of the artist was Way beyond what they could, because the Participation wasn't there. Do you think That these festivals start to run into that problem? That they're not going to be able to book These talents because of the asking price? And that's why Bonnarooo May be ahead of the game of creating these Outside experience which then Brings, it's like You know, you look at the lineup every year and you're like Who's the headliner is going to be? But really I mean we could probably take a poll here You know, how many of us have really got excited About the headliners? We found more enjoyment In the mid card. Right, exactly. Absolutely. And so it seems like That's where maybe these festivals are Starting to go because these artists asking Price are so much. I mean just to add on to What Kevin said, I'm not going to Bonnarooo For the music, honestly. Good for you. And that's the honest to god's truth. I'm going to Bonnarooo for the community It's a vacation for me, it's a way to get away From my normal life, it's a way to get away from Work, and I can't Be the only person out there That's going to Bonnarooo for the community Just to go to Bonnarooo For that aspect. I mean I honestly Can't be the only person Who, I mean honestly, you know To me And I'm going to say this in the honest to god's truth Nickelback could play Bonnarooo And I would still buy a ticket and go. I would throw down at a terrible Nickelback concert. I would still buy a ticket And go. I would still buy a ticket and go. You just got voted off of the campsite. Sorry, bye. Bye. My friends make the concert. The talent On stage just adds flavor. No, I mean I would probably Stay in the campsite all day And probably drink and get drunk and do whatever But, you know, I would still buy a ticket and go. It's so funny you say that about Nickelback. I was listening to a podcast Recently where somebody said the exact same thing Of, you know, it's like But the, if Nickelback Was booked, there'd be so many people There because of that cult. You know, in a weird way I can actually see Nickelback At 111. In a very strange way that would make a lot of sense At 111 Fest. If Bryan Stone Talks right now, I'm going to lose my mind. I got a microphone again. I mean this is my gear here. I got a microphone again. Her point is That is an incredible point. Nickelback doesn't matter Is a great point. And they have A couple songs that are okay. Thank god you Jumped in. I saved the show at an hour and fifteen. Well, first off We thank you so much for coming down The whole Roobust crowd and so many Bonnaroo people. It really does. And I'll say this about The Camp Red Roob. Before I get to Roobust The Camp Red Roob people. First off You guys coming means the world. But What you guys have created And what you've done out In whatever pod you find yourself in To me is exactly Why I'm so dying To be a part of Bonnaroo every single year. Even in the trees. You guys personify What the experience is. You took a blank piece of land And then you created a world Around it. And I love Everything about that. So all The credit in the world to you guys. Smuggle on all magic. You smuggle what in? Smuggle magic in. He means that metaphorically. No wonder you were there for twelve hours. So Roobust Thank you so much for coming and Being a part of this and supporting us the way That you have. You guys Took a chance Two years ago to do The repeat repeat thing. And In a weird way. In a weird way I feel like that repeat repeat Show at least Created a community that changed The conversation. And I don't know if this podcast Exists without like Jared And Kristen. They are so Great to us and they made us feel like There was a community out there that we didn't know Existed. And you guys Started that. So Congratulations creating something really really well done. You were asking who should be the house band. It's them. Because they embody Bonnaroo So much. Yeah. Well, yeah. Those guys are terrific. I kept I was thinking about them after listening to your Podcast with them. They're just Yes. That's the Word to them. Yes. What do you want? What do you need? What can we do? Yes. So I'm going to Finish this with going around real quick. I want to find, we are in November. We've got a month. There's a month Before the hangout line up comes out the first week Of December. Coachella Will be right before that. My bet. And then Bonnaroo first of the year. Let's go around and just tell me what to listen To between now and then. Give me An artist to listen to between now and then. Matt Mason. Matt Mason. We've had him right down the road. I've had him In my building. He's terrific. I love him. He's great. Yeah. I mentioned this on our Twitter the other day. One that I'm really into is called Fly Golden Eagle. They're kind of a psychedelic Rock band out of Nashville. I think they'd be a good ad. I've seen them. Listen to the new Third Eye Blind album. Yeah. Man, you didn't have a Nickelback track you want to share? Third Eye Blind. No, no, no. Me and Charles Will go into the story about that some other time. Okay. I'd love to hear The story, but man, I love that Smash mouth that you're about to tell me about. I'm actually never listening to Nickelback. You remind me. Please take his mic away from him. Hey, I'm the guy in control. Unfortunately. I like Michael Kuanda. He'd be cool to see. Yes. God, I love Him so much. I love that new project. Or Labyrinth, sorry. I got nothing. I want to hear The, was it the Blam Blams you were talking About? The Blams Blams. They're incredible. Okay. That's the one I want to listen to. Yes. Okay. They are literally a mix of LCD sound system, Queen, The Beatles, the Bowie, everything. Like amazing stage presence, Like incredible vocals, incredible Like musicianship. Awesome. Alright, so he's been sitting here Quietly the whole time. What is your name? Zack. My name is Zack. Alright, give me something you're listening to right now. I've been listening, Can you hear me on this thing? I can hear you. Okay. Everybody can hear me? Alright. I've been listening to a lot Of Beck since I saw him at Shaky Knees This past, yeah, his new album Hyperspace is coming out Next month, actually it's coming out This month in November in like two weeks Time so, and from the Songs I've been hearing, you know, Beck Is eclectic, I mean, He's really, he's Beck-lectic, I mean he's his own genre. It's like it's going to like a vapor wave Sort of kind of style. You know, I did. Yeah, so keep an eye out On Hyperspace, your new album By Beck, that'd be Alright. So, what's up with Beck, up and coming artist? Mitchell, you got anything? You got something for Mitchell? You got a thing for Mitchell? Mitchell, let me see here. What do you got? Give me something to listen to. Well, in all honesty, I'm going to tell you to go into the past And there's a genre called Nya Rock That is so incredible. Oh my god. It's like Zydeco jazz funk. Imagine, like Lonnie Liston Smith with the second line. Alright, at the table, Brian and Nate, you got an idea What you're listening to right now? Pearl Jam. Almond Brothers all weekend long. Shut up. Three days of Almond Brothers back to back. Have y'all heard about Blackberry Smoke? Then the Pearl Jam cover band. Okay, great. Alright, so I'm going to... Les Zeppelin. How am I supposed to follow that? Okay, you're not. So, if I got two, and she knows it, the King Princess album is the best album of the year. It's absolutely the absolute best album of the year. I'm obsessed with it. But I've found a girl. I found a girl in England. Her name is Litany. She is followed by nobody. She has no management. She has no record label. And if I was an A&R guy tomorrow, I'd be dragging her from England to America to bring her to my boss. Her name is Litany. Listen to My Dude. Listen to her new song, which is something. I don't remember. Litany is my girl. She is unbelievable. And she sounds like every sort of King Princess slash her outfit that you can find. I'm obsessed with her. There you go. That's what I got. Barry, anything else? Thanks to the Moxie. Thanks to you guys for traveling up here. That means a bunch. Not only thanks to the guys, but thanks to the Moxie hashtag at the Moxie. The Moxie Chattanooga has been more, more, more than gracious than I could have ever expected. They let us drive a car into their patio. I know you're going to laugh, but we need to thank Lord Taco. Yes, Lord Taco, by the way, if you want to follow Lord Taco at Russell on the Bus is the guy that puts literally everything that we do. He is the guy that is the heart and soul of it. And then, of course, that guy. Thanks to Brian and Nate. One last thing. I'll make this super quick. And Nate over here, by the way. Sorry, Daniel. Go ahead. I'll make this super quick. Take a minute. One important thing that has always been a mantra for us with the Roobus is keeping this community going, continuing to radiate positivity. I want us all to recognize that we have a lot of new people coming in every year. It is our responsibility as the upperclassmen to continue to pass on the code and radiating positivity because we want to keep this community going forever. That is really wonderful. I was never good in high school, so I don't know if I'm the best person to do that. No, you suck up for positivity. I was about to say something clever, but... Today's rave babies are tomorrow's wookatree. Hey, man, can I borrow everything? The What Podcast, Barry Courter, Brad Steiner, Daniel from the Roobus, the whole Roobus crew. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you for listening. I guess we'll see you pretty soon.